tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post1069653182925089884..comments2024-03-06T08:31:22.262-08:00Comments on Sagot sa Balik Islam (Forum): 2 salinglahi ni Hesus magkakontra?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-36607824208055964232009-07-12T03:32:34.739-07:002009-07-12T03:32:34.739-07:00Sige po, Mr Grajo. Ituloy po ninyo kung ano sa ala...Sige po, Mr Grajo. Ituloy po ninyo kung ano sa alam ninyo ang TAMA at HINDI UMIINSULTO sa INYONG KATALINUHAN.<br /><br />KAYO PO ang PIPILI ng MAKAPAGLILIGTAS at MAKAPAGPAPAHAMAK sa INYONG KALULUWA.<br /><br />KAYO PO ang PIPILI sa BUHAY o KAMATAYAN.<br /><br />Sabi nga ng DIYOS sa Deuteronomy 30:19, "Tinatawag ko ngayon ang langit at ang lupa upang maging saksi laban sa inyo: INILATAG ko sa harap ninyo ang BUHAY at KAMATAYAN, ang BIYAYA at ang SUMPA."<br /><br />"PILIIN NINYO ANG BUHAY nang kayo at ang inyong mga anak ay MABUHAY."<br /><br />So, INILAGAY ng DIYOS ang KAPASYAHAN para sa ating KAMATAYAN o KALIGTASAN sa ATING MGA KAMAY.<br /><br />Sana po ay BUHAY ang INYONG PILIIN.<br /><br />Salamat po.Cenon Bibe Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18211346604481925965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-51566148815189871102009-07-10T20:27:34.570-07:002009-07-10T20:27:34.570-07:00Magandang araw at salamat po sayo Mr. Grajo salama...Magandang araw at salamat po sayo Mr. Grajo salamat at buo nyo pong naunawaan ang pinupunto ko laban sa mapaglinlang na si Mr. Cenon Bebi, siguro po Mr. Grajo ipagpatuloy na lamang po ninyo ang pagbabasa ng inyong Bibliya at ang pananaliksik ng katotohan. iyon lamang po at sana ipagpatuloy nyo po ang maganda ninyong hangarin sa kapwa, na syang wala kay Mr. Cenon Bebi. hanggang sa uulit po.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-27082676614776925642009-07-07T07:16:29.207-07:002009-07-07T07:16:29.207-07:00TAMA po. TUMAWAG KAYO sa DIYOS NINYO para BIGYANG ...TAMA po. TUMAWAG KAYO sa DIYOS NINYO para BIGYANG LIWANAG ang ISIP NINYO.<br /><br />HINDI na po ako NAGTATAKA na AYAW NINYONG TANGGAPIN ang MALINAW na DAHILAN kung bakit PANGALAN ni JOSEPH ang INILAGAY kahit sa GENEALOGY sa PAMILYA ng BIRHENG MARIA: PINILI na NINYO ang KAMALIAN EH.<br /><br />Bakit po? Kung iti-TRACE ang SALINGLAHIN NINYO sa SIDE ng NANAY NINYO e KANINO PONG PANGALAN ang LILITAW PAGDATING sa PINAGKUNAN NINYO ng PANGALAN? Sa NANAY po ba NINYO? HINDI ba sa TATAY N'YO?<br /><br />NAPAKADALI pong MAUNAWAAN IYAN pero HINDI NINYO UUNAWAIN dahil MASYADONG MALAKING KAMALIAN NA ang NIYAKAP NINYO kaya PANININDIGAN na lang NINYO dahil MAPAPAHIYA KAYO nang HUSTO.<br /><br />YOUR IGNORANCE is YOUR DOWNFALL.<br /><br />I'M SORRY if that sounds BLUNT but THAT IS THE TRUTH.Cenon Bibe Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18211346604481925965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-60873626133351090252009-07-06T21:37:21.759-07:002009-07-06T21:37:21.759-07:00NAIPALIWANAG na po natin kung BAKIT si JOSEPH ang ...NAIPALIWANAG na po natin kung BAKIT si JOSEPH ang PAREHONG DULO ng GENEALOGY bago ang PANGINOONG HESUS.<br />(Well Mr. Cenon Bebi hindi paliwanag ang pinapaabot mo, kong hindi pangloloko! is that how you understand your Bible Mr. Bebi? my God! may utak ka pa ba? kong si Luke ay walang ngang lakas ng loob para isulat ang pangalang Maria sa mismo sulat nya to give clearer undestanding & guidance to his readers instead of fooling them, bakit tayo maniniwala sa hindi dapat? Luke who wrote the same didn't have enough courage to write the name Mary in his book! bakit kayo naniniwala sa hindi dapat paniniwalaan? what a Courage you got there Mr. Cenon Bebi. if the genealogy writen by Luke was really the genealogy of Mary then he would just simply wrote the name Mary there after then the name of Jesus. plain, clear & simple. is Luke fooling its readers? ha? Mr. Cenon Bebi? what we see in the genealogy writen by Luke is the name Joseph then Jesus! so granting without admitting the foolish & stupid argument of Mr. Cenon Bebi lalabas na itong si Lukas pala mga kaibigan ay nangloloko! and the bible in itself lost the credibility as being the book of guidance from God kong itong ultimo mga saksi kono may ibat-ibang nasaksihan patungkol sa Genealogy si Jesus! and what was suppossed to Jesus Genealogy now become MAry genealogy and his Stepfather's genealogy! what a mess!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-61655442573547026082009-07-06T03:40:49.739-07:002009-07-06T03:40:49.739-07:00Mr. Grajo, thank you for your comment.
I just wis...Mr. Grajo, thank you for your comment.<br /><br />I just wish you would cite which parts of my explanations INSULTS the INTELLECT of my READERS.<br /><br />You would be helping my readers alot if you could elaborate.<br /><br />Otherwise, they might think that you are just trying to cover the tracks of the ISLAMIC REVERT that has been DISTORTING and TWISTING FACTS to SUPPORT their ATTACKS on the BIBLE and CHRISTIANITY.<br /><br />Thank you.Cenon Bibe Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18211346604481925965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-2364172536626077582009-07-06T02:29:05.416-07:002009-07-06T02:29:05.416-07:00NAIPALIWANAG na po natin kung BAKIT si JOSEPH ang ...NAIPALIWANAG na po natin kung BAKIT si JOSEPH ang PAREHONG DULO ng GENEALOGY bago ang PANGINOONG HESUS.<br /><br />Iyan ay dahil PATRIARCHAL o sa LINYA ng AMA TINUTUKOY ang isang GENEALOGY o SALINGLAHI.<br /><br />Muli po KATIGASAN lang ng ULO at KAIGNORANTEHAN ang IPINAGPIPILITAN NIYA.<br /><br />Iyan po marahil ang NANGYAYARI sa ISANG TAO kapag TUMATALIKOD KAY KRISTO: NAGIGING MATIGAS ang ULO at NAGPIPILIT KUMAPIT sa MALI dahil INIWAN na NILA ang KATOTOHANAN (si KRISTO).<br /><br />IPANALANGIN na lang po natin sila.Cenon Bibe Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18211346604481925965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-40800211084753057512009-07-05T21:42:08.825-07:002009-07-05T21:42:08.825-07:00Good day to all; i am Mr. David Grajo and i just c...Good day to all; i am Mr. David Grajo and i just come across this blog of Mr. Cenon Bebi and become interested of the subject being discuss. and i am very sorry to say, that you Mr. Cenon are INSULTING your readers INTELECT from the two topics being discuss! Matt 12:40 & Jesus genealogy. you want your readers to believe in your false Notion about jesus genealogy. the above comparison will proved that you are wrong! plain and simple Mr. Bebi.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-34858818289429858742009-07-05T19:53:54.403-07:002009-07-05T19:53:54.403-07:00Pakipansin nyo po uli mga kaibigan ang mga Pangala...Pakipansin nyo po uli mga kaibigan ang mga Pangalan sa ibaba, at Ipakita mo Mr. Cenon Bebi ang Pangalang Mary dyan sa Luke siguro naman po malinaw para sa inyo mga kaibigan ang nasabing mga Pangalang sa Matthew at sa Luke;<br /><br />THE GENEALOGY OF Jesus! "from David to Jesus"<br /><br />According to Matthew------ Accordintg to Luke<br /><br />D A V ID---------------------DAVID<br /><br />1. Solomon-------------------1. Nathan<br /><br />2. Roboam--------------------2. Mattatha<br /><br />3. Abia----------------------3. Menan<br /><br />4. Asa-----------------------4. Melea<br /><br />5. Josaphat------------------5. Eliakim<br /><br />6. Joram---------------------6. Jonan<br /><br />7. Ozias---------------------7. Joseph<br /><br />8. Joatham-------------------8. Juda<br /><br />9. Achaz---------------------9. Simeon<br /><br />10. Ezekias-----------------10. Levi<br /><br />11. Manasses----------------11. Matthat<br /><br />12. Amon--------------------12. Jorim<br /><br />13. Josias------------------13. Eliezer<br /><br />14. Jechonias---------------14. Jose<br /><br />15. Salathiel---------------15. Er<br /><br />16. Zorobabel---------------16. Elmodam<br /><br />17. Abiud-------------------17. Cosam<br /><br />18. Eliakim-----------------18. Addi<br /><br />19. Azor--------------------19. Melchi<br /><br />20. Sadoc-------------------20. Neri<br /><br />21. Achim-------------------21. Salathiel<br /><br />22. Eliud-------------------22. Zorobabel<br /><br />23. Eleazar-----------------23. Rhesa<br /><br />24. Matthan-----------------24. Joanna<br /><br />25. Jacob-------------------25. Juda<br /><br />26. Joseph------------------26. Joseph<br /><br />27. Jesus-------------------27. Semei<br /><br />----------------------------28. Mattathias<br /><br />----------------------------29. Maath<br /><br />----------------------------30. Nagge<br /><br />----------------------------31. Esli<br /><br />----------------------------32. Naum<br /><br />----------------------------33. Amos<br /><br />----------------------------34. Mattathias<br /><br />----------------------------35. Joseph<br /><br />----------------------------36. Janna<br /><br />----------------------------37. Melchi<br /><br />----------------------------38. Levi<br /><br />----------------------------39. Matthat<br /><br />----------------------------40. Heli<br /><br />----------------------------41. Joseph<br /><br />----------------------------42. JesusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-15809312126501435702009-07-05T19:27:41.368-07:002009-07-05T19:27:41.368-07:00So, he chooses the WORST THING TO DO: INSIST on hi...So, he chooses the WORST THING TO DO: INSIST on his IGNORANCE by trying to deny the FACT the MATTHEW and LUKE were talking of TWO DIFFERENT GENEALOGIES: Matthew traces the lineage through Joseph and Luke through Mary. (Mr. Cenon Bebi ang mga pangalang binaggit sa Matt #26 & #27 ends with Joseph and Jesus. ganon din naman po sa book of Luke #41 & #42 Joseph and Jesus din po nagtatapos? its not Mary and Jesus? as foolishly claimed by Mr. Cenon Bebi. This one name is glaring. You need no Fine-Touch comb to Catch it. It is Joseph the Caperter. You will also easily oberve that the list are so Grossly Contradictory. Could both the lists have emanated from the same source, i.e. God?) <br /><br />But DURING the TIME when JESUS was STILL HERE, PEOPLE KNEW that JOSEPH was HIS FATHER. (StepFather as such Mr. Cenon Bebi no blood relation!) That is ONE OF THE REASONS why MATTHEW (show a Fake genealogy of Jesus unto his StepFather? isn't it a gorss stupidity to believed in such a lie of Jesus genealogy from Joseph who was just Jesus StepFather?) SHOWED the GENEALOGY of JESUS THROUGH JOSEPHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-19151683809409426282009-07-03T09:33:07.353-07:002009-07-03T09:33:07.353-07:00As a last point, PAKI PANSIN po na HINDI NATUTULAN...As a last point, PAKI PANSIN po na HINDI NATUTULAN ng KAUSAP NATING BALIK ISLAM ang IPINAKITA NATING MALI, KONTRA-KONTRA at SALUNGANTANG PAHAYAG ng mga SKOLAR NILA kaugnay sa sinasabi raw ng KORAN.<br /><br />INDIKASYON lang po iyan na TINATANGGAP ng ating KAUSAP na PUNO ng KONTRADIKSYON at KAMALIAN ang mga INTERPRETASYON ng mga SKOLAR NILA.<br /><br />At ang PATULOY na PAG-ATAKE NILA sa BIBLIYA ay TANDA LANG na PILIT NILANG INILALAYO ang USAPIN mula sa MALI-MALING ITINUTURO ng mga INTERPRETASYON ng KANILANG mga SKOLAR.<br /><br />Ika nga po ay PANINIRA NA LANG TALAGA ang PAKAY NILA at HINDI KATOTOHANAN.<br /><br />PAGPALAIN po tayo ng MAKAPANGYARIHANG DIYOS.Cenon Bibe Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18211346604481925965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-22790928203314122992009-07-03T08:27:50.676-07:002009-07-03T08:27:50.676-07:00What kind of RIDICULOUS QUESTIONING: Our REACTOR A...What kind of RIDICULOUS QUESTIONING: Our REACTOR ASKS, "Why should God give a “father” (Joseph) to His “son” (Jesus)? And why such an ignoble ancestry?)"<br /><br />We ask: "WHY SHOULD GOD NOT PROVIDE an EARTHY 'FATHER' to HIS SON?"<br /><br />Does our REACTOR believe that HAVING NO KNOWN FATHER is GOOD?<br /><br />UNLIKE our REACTOR, GOD is TRULY ALL WISE. HE KNEW HOW PEOPLE'S MINDS WORKED. GOD KNEW that IF HIS SON was BORN WITHOUT a KNOWN HUMAN FATHER, HE WOULD BECOME INCREDIBLE.<br /><br />NOT HAVING a KNOWN FATHER, JESUS would have been TAGGED as a BASTARD, and HIS MOTHER an IMMORAL WOMAN.<br /><br />Our REACTOR NEVER SAW THAT.<br /><br />Why?<br /><br />Because HE RELIES TOO MUCH on the IGNORANCE of AHMED DEEDAT and other ANTI-CHRISTIAN, ANTI-BIBLE PROPAGANDISTS.<br /><br />Paki pansin po, dahil sa PAGTITIWALA NIYA sa KAMANGMANGAN ni DEEDAT ay PATI SENTIDO COMON NIYA ay NAAPEKTUHAN NA.<br /><br />HINDI SIYA MAKAPANIWALA na si HESUS PUWEDENG MAGKAROON ng GENEALOGY o SALINGLAHI sa LINYA ng AMA (JOSEPH) at ng INA (MARIA).<br /><br />BAKIT PO KAYA? SIYA BA ay WALANG SALINGLAHI sa LINYA ng KANYANG INA?<br /><br />KAWAWA NAMAN SIYA. WALA na SIYANG LAHI sa LINYA ng KANYANG INA ay WALA NA RIN SIYANG COMMON SENSE.<br /><br />AYAW NIYANG TANGGAPIN na KAHIT ang LINYA ng INA ay TINUTUKOY SA PAMAMAGITAN ng PANGALAN ng mga LALAKE (kaya parehong genealogy ni Hesus ay tinukoy ang "AMA" NIYANG si HESUS.<br /><br />Pero ASAN ang MAAYOS at MATINONG PAGTUTOL NIYA?<br /><br />WALA po.<br /><br />Tulad nang dati ay PAULIT-ULIT na WALANG KATUTURANG DALDAL ang GINAGAWA NIYA.<br /><br />Baka INAAKALA NIYA na MAKUKUMBINSI NIYA KAYO GAMIT ang WALANG SAYSAY NIYANG DALDAL.<br /><br />SORRY po kung INIINSULTO NIYA ang KATALINUHAN NINYO.Cenon Bibe Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18211346604481925965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-72882166479943857482009-07-03T08:06:49.457-07:002009-07-03T08:06:49.457-07:00OUR REACTOR seems to have the habit of SAYING THIN...OUR REACTOR seems to have the habit of SAYING THINGS OUT OF IGNORANCE and thus CONTRADICTS HIMSELF in the PROCESS.<br /><br />In the first of his latest posts, he claimed that JESUS had "NO GENEALOGY" and CLAIMS that His TWO GENEALOGIES were only "MANUFACTURED."<br /><br />How can Jesus NOT HAVE A GENEALOGY when HE WAS BORN? Does he mean that Jesus's mother, MARY, also DID NOT HAVE A LINEAGE?<br /><br />Our REACTOR, apparently an ISLAMIC REVERT or BALIK ISLAM, CHOOSES to BELIEVE his IGNORANT MUSINGS than the TRUTH.<br /><br />It has been repeated explained that the GENEALOGY in LUKE was THAT THROUGH the LINE of MARY. Our REACTOR HAS NEVER BEEN ABLE to REFUTE THAT.<br /><br />His problem is that HE COULD NOT ACCEDE to IT because he would be ADMITTING to be IGNORANT.<br /><br />So, he chooses the WORST THING TO DO: INSIST on his IGNORANCE by trying to deny the FACT the MATTHEW and LUKE were talking of TWO DIFFERENT GENEALOGIES: Matthew traces the lineage through Joseph and Luke through Mary.<br /><br />Now, our REACTOR HAS NOWHERE ELSE to GO so he makes the RIDICULOUS CLAIM that the two GENEALOGIES were "manufactured" or "fabricated."<br /><br />Yes, JOSEPH was NOT the PHYSICAL FATHER of JESUS but EVERYBODY during the TIME of THE CHRIST BELIEVED that JOSEPH WAS HIS FATHER.<br /><br />During the EARLY LIFE of the LORD, HE, HIS MOTHER and FOSTER FATHER COULD NOT YET REVEAL the TRUTH. But in DUE TIME (AFTER HIS DEATH and RESURRECTION), EVERYTHING was REVEALED.<br /><br />But DURING the TIME when JESUS was STILL HERE, PEOPLE KNEW that JOSEPH was HIS FATHER. That is ONE OF THE REASONS why MATTHEW SHOWED the GENEALOGY of JESUS THROUGH JOSEPH.<br /><br />Now, CAN our REACTOR PROVE that the GENEALOGY of JOSEPH was MANUFACTURED?<br /><br />LET us SEE if HE COULD PROVE THAT CLAIM. IF NOT, THEN HE IS LIKE HIS IDOL, AHMAD DEEDAT, who was a VERY GOOD INVENTOR and MANUFACTURER of LIES.<br /><br />On a SIMILAR PLAIN, CAN HE PROVE that MARY DID NOT HAVE A GENEALOGY?<br /><br />Luke TRACED JESUS'S ANCESTRY THROUGH MARY because some people may question is He indeed came from DAVID.<br /><br />Luke PROVED that JESUS came from the FAMILY of DAVID by TRACING BACK HIS GENEALOGY THROUGH HIS MOTHER.<br /><br />Our REACTOR CANNOT DISPROVE THAT so he RESORTS to making MORE IGNORANT ALLEGATIONS.<br /><br />He ACCUSES MATTHEW and LUKE of BEING LIARS.<br /><br />HOW? WHY? Just because they PROVE our REACTOR WRONG?<br /><br />The LINE of THINKING and REASONING of this ISLAMIC REVERT or BALIK ISLAM is APPALING at most and HILARIOUS at least.Cenon Bibe Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18211346604481925965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-3653947183470503052009-07-03T02:30:58.715-07:002009-07-03T02:30:58.715-07:00Mga kaibigan at mga giliw at masugid na taga subay...Mga kaibigan at mga giliw at masugid na taga subaybay sa blog na ito. mapapansin nyo po ang paulit-ulit kong posting sa iisang at dati ko na pong sinasabi, sa kadahilanan po yan upang makita at maunawaan na po ni Mr. Cenon Bebi ang aking mga Sagot at Pagtutol sa kanyang pong mga baluktot na aral at unawa at ganon din po sa kanya pong katangahan at kamangmangan! pagdating po sa nagiisang Katotohanan!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-128107341153139352009-07-03T02:16:44.376-07:002009-07-03T02:16:44.376-07:00(Why should God give a “father” (Joseph) to His “s...(Why should God give a “father” (Joseph) to His “son” (Jesus)? And why such an ignoble ancestry?) ONE GENEALOGY (MATTHEW'S) is from DAVI'S SON SOLOMON. The OTHER (LUKE'S) is from ANOTHER SON, NATHAN. (pls do read mga kaibigan Matthew 1:6 says that Jesus was the Son of DAVID through SOLOMON 'the one with a thousand wives?', but Luke 3:31 on the other hand says that he(Jesus) was the son of DAVID through NATHAN. One need not to ba a Gyneacologist to tell by no stretch of the Imagination could the seed of DAVID reach the Mother of Jesus both through SOLOMON & NATHAN at the same time? We know that both the Authors (Matthew & Luke) are Confounded Liars, because Jesus as we all know was Conceived Miraculously, without any Male intervention and infact from a Virgin. That even if we Concede a Physical Ancestry through DAVID, both authors would still be Proved Liars for a very Obvious Reason. PLEASE SEE the LIST PROVIDED and pls take note po, Pakipansin na lamang po mga giliw na tagasubaybay sa blog na ito ni Mr. Cenon Bebi ang mga pangalang binaggit sa Matt #26 & #27 end with Joseph and Jesus ganon din naman po sa book of Luke #41 & #42 Joseph and Jesus din po nagtatapos? its not Mary and Jesus? as foolishly claimed by Mr. Cenon Bebi. This one name is glaring. You need no Fine-Touch comb to Catch it. It is Joseph the Caperter. You will also easily oberve that the list are so Grossly Contradictory. Could both the lists have emanated from the same source, i.e. God?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-30637273974304170152009-07-03T02:06:51.511-07:002009-07-03T02:06:51.511-07:00(Why should God give a “father” (Joseph) to His “s...(Why should God give a “father” (Joseph) to His “son” (Jesus)? And why such an ignoble ancestry?) ONE GENEALOGY (MATTHEW'S) is from DAVI'S SON SOLOMON. The OTHER (LUKE'S) is from ANOTHER SON, NATHAN. (PLEASE SEE the LIST PROVIDED and pls take note po, Pakipansin na lamang po mga giliw na tagasubaybay sa blog na ito ni Mr. Cenon Bebi ang mga pangalang binaggit sa Matt #26 & #27 end with Joseph and Jesus ganon din naman po sa book of Luke #41 & #42 Joseph and Jesus din po nagtatapos? This one name is glaring. You need no Fine-Touch comb to Catch it. It is Joseph the Caperter. You will also easily oberve that the list are so Grossly Contradictory. Could both the lists have emanated from the same source, i.e. God?)<br /><br />HE HIMSELF PROVIDED the EVIDENCE that SHOWS HIS IGNORANCE and LACK of COMMON SENSE. (Common Sense? meron ka noon Mr. Bebi? We know that both the Authors (Matthew & Luke) are Confounded Liars, because Jesus as we all know was Conceived Miraculously, without any Male intervention and infact from a Virgin. That even if we Concede a Physical Ancestry through DAVID, both authors would still be Proved Liars for a very Obvious Reason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-30930659270368326572009-07-03T01:40:49.698-07:002009-07-03T01:40:49.698-07:00DENYING the TRUTH (What Truth? That you Fabricated...DENYING the TRUTH (What Truth? That you Fabricated Genealogy, For a Man who had no Genealogy? mga kaibibigan at mga masugid na taga subaybay sa blog na ito they have manufactured One 'genealogy' for Him/Jesus.) that the GENEALOGIES in LUKE and in MATTHEW are (are all Fabricated... We know that both the Authors (Matthew & Luke) are Confounded Liars, because Jesus as we all know was Conceived Miraculously, without any Male intervention. hindi pa po ba alam ni Mr. Cenon Bebi ang totoong Jesus? mga kaibigan bahala na lamang po kayong humusga sa pananaw nitong si Mr. Cenon Bebi!) TWO DIFFERENT LISTS DOES NOT make them CONTRADICTORY. (ang issue po dito Mr. Cenon Bebi ay ang Genealogy lang po ni Jesus, na kong tutousin po wala naman po talagang Genealogy! hindi po ba mga kaibigan? hindi po natin dito tinatalakay ang genealogy ni Joseph or ang genealogy ni Mary. ang pinag-uusapan po natin dito ay ang nag-iisa lang dapat na Genelogy ni Jesus! kong mayroon nga syang genealogy? pero hindi po ba we all know that Jesus was Conceived Miraculously, without any Male interventioninfact from a virgin. now papaano po magkakaroon ng dalawa pang genealogy ang isang tao na wala naman genealogy? ganoon lamang po plain & simple! hindi po ba alam ni Mr. Cenon Bebi iyan?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-18142904119718728832009-07-03T01:12:09.315-07:002009-07-03T01:12:09.315-07:00WALA pong NAITUTOL KAHIT ISA ang ATING KAUSAP na B...WALA pong NAITUTOL KAHIT ISA ang ATING KAUSAP na BALIK ISLAM.<br /><br />(for a Man who had no Genealogy, they have manufactured One for Him. And what a Genealogy! Six Adulterers and offspring of INCEST are imposed unpon this holy Man of God.)<br /><br />Both GENEALOGIES SHOW that EITHER WAY (up the LINE of JOSEPH or up the LINE of MARY), JESUS CAME from the FAMILY of DAVID.<br /><br />(because Jesus as we all know was Conceived Miraculously, without any Male intervention. That even if we Concede a Physical Ancestry through DAVID, both authors would still be Proved Liars for the Obvious Reason.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-81814313481279801502009-07-02T04:19:39.855-07:002009-07-02T04:19:39.855-07:00Does the Bible have 66 or 73 books?
Please SEE ou...Does the Bible have 66 or 73 books?<br /><br />Please SEE our TOPIC LIST at LEFT and click on the tab "Bible: 66 or 73 books?"<br /><br />Again, the BALIK ISLAM (ISLAMIC REVERT) REACTOR shows his IGNORANCE of WHAT HE IS SAYING.<br /><br />You will understand if you read the link I gave you.<br /><br />Thank you.Cenon Bibe Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18211346604481925965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-44822639769417945072009-07-02T04:15:41.058-07:002009-07-02T04:15:41.058-07:00Firstly, please TAKE NOTE that our ISLAMIC-REVERT ...Firstly, please TAKE NOTE that our ISLAMIC-REVERT REACTOR NEVER DENIED the CONTRADICTIONS and the MISTAKES in the INTERPRETATIONS of their SCHOLARS.<br /><br />THAT is CLEAR.<br /><br />Now, our ISLAMIC-REVERT REACTOR said, "THE PURE AND TRUE QUR'AN IS ONLY IN ARABIC[.] THOSE KORAN INTERPRETATION INTO DIFFERENT LANGUAGES IS ONLY TO HELP NEW MUSLIM UNDERSTAND THE CLOSEST MEANING OF THE SAME."<br /><br />That the KORAN is ONLY IN ARABIC is something I AGREE WITH.<br /><br />Sadly, BECAUSE IT IS ONLY in ARABIC, EVEN THEIR SCHOLARS CANNOT UNDERSTAND IT PROPERLY.<br /><br />And BECAUSE their SCHOLARS DON'T UNDERSTAND the KORAN, THESE SCHOLARS COMMIT NUMEROUS MISTAKES and CONTRADICTIONS in THEIR INTERPRETATIONS.<br /><br />That is WHY MANY ISLAMIC REVERTS who USE the MISTAKE- and CONTRADICTION-FILLED INTERPRETATIONS are BEING MISLED and are MADE TO BELIEVE WRONG and CONTRADICTORY GUIDANCE.<br /><br />In short, NO ONE UNDERSTANDS the ISLAMIC HOLY BOOK: NOT the ISLAMIC SCHOLARS who MAKE WRONG INTERPRETATIONS of what it SAYS, and NOT THE PEOPLE who READ their WRONG INTERPRETATIONS.<br /><br />Now, THIS IS ALARMING: Our REACTOR CLAIMS that the INTERPRETATIONS are "THE CLOSEST MEANING" to WHAT the KORAN SAYS.<br /><br />IS THAT TRUE?<br /><br />THE INTERPRETATIONS are FULL of CONTRADICTIONS and WRONG INFORMATION, IS HE SAYING that these CONTRADICTIONS and WRONG INFORMATION are "CLOSEST" to WHAT the ISLAMIC HOLY BOOK CONTAINS?<br /><br />Is he then saying that their HOLY BOOK CONTAINS SIMILAR CONTRADICTIONS and WRONG INFO?<br /><br />In HIS EFFORT to DEFEND the MISTAKE- and CONTRADITION-FILLED INTERPRETATIONS of MUSLIM SCHOLARS, HE IS TARNISHING the IMAGE of the KORAN.<br /><br />Does he know what he is doing?<br /><br />He accuses MATTHEW and LUKE of being LIARS. BUT WHO MADE the BLATANTLY WRONG CLAIMS about MARY'S FAMILY?<br /><br />WHO MADE the RIDICULOUS ASSERTION in S19:28 that MARY had AARON as her BROTHER? (Mary DID NOT HAVE A BROTHER)<br /><br />WHO MADE the WRONG CLAIM in S3:35-36 that IMRAN (the FATHER OF MOISES) was the FATHER of MARY? (The FATHER of MARY was JOACHIM, also known as HELI or HELIACHIM)<br /><br />WHO MADE the BASELESS STATEMENT in S20:85 that a SAMARITAN instigated the making of the MOLTEN CALF? (There were yet NO SAMARITANS during that time)<br /><br />Were they MATTHEW and LUKE? Or were they the SCHOLARS who MADE the WRONG and CONTRADICTORY INTERPRETATIONS of WHAT the KORAN said?<br /><br />WHO THEN are the LIARS?<br /><br />You decide.Cenon Bibe Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18211346604481925965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-21603424877333017462009-07-02T03:18:09.405-07:002009-07-02T03:18:09.405-07:00WALA pong NAITUTOL KAHIT ISA ang ATING KAUSAP na B...WALA pong NAITUTOL KAHIT ISA ang ATING KAUSAP na BALIK ISLAM.<br /><br />Kaya po dinaan na lang niya sa SANGKATUTAK na WALANG SAYSAY na DALDAL.<br /><br />DENYING the TRUTH that the GENEALOGIES in LUKE and in MATTHEW are TWO DIFFERENT LISTS DOES NOT make them CONTRADICTORY.<br /><br />It's actually VERY SIMPLE.<br /><br />JUST by LOOKING at the SON THROUGH WHICH the GENEALOGY BEGAN will PROVE that THESE are TWO DIFFERENT LINEAGES coming down from DAVID.<br /><br />ONE GENEALOGY (MATTHEW'S) is from DAVI'S SON SOLOMON. The OTHER (LUKE'S) is from ANOTHER SON, NATHAN. (PLEASE SEE the LIST HE PROVIDED)<br /><br />HE HIMSELF PROVIDED the EVIDENCE that SHOWS HIS IGNORANCE and LACK of COMMON SENSE.<br /><br />Both GENEALOGIES SHOW that EITHER WAY (up the LINE of JOSEPH or up the LINE of MARY), JESUS CAME from the FAMILY of DAVID.<br /><br />THIS ISLAMIC REVERT CANNOT DISPROVE THAT so he RESORTS to NONSENSE and BLABBERY.<br /><br />THAT FURTHER SHOWS HOW THIS ISLAMIC REVERT'S MIND WORKS: IT THRIVES on NONSENSE and USELESS INVENTIONS.<br /><br />DO OTHER ISLAMIC REVERTS FEEL PROUD or ASHAMED of the WAY their BROTHER REASONS OUT?<br /><br />Their SILENCE MEANS ALOT.Cenon Bibe Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18211346604481925965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-30849881944826255092009-07-01T20:48:17.714-07:002009-07-01T20:48:17.714-07:00FULFILLING PROPHECY?
Matthew & Luke are Over-Z...FULFILLING PROPHECY?<br />Matthew & Luke are Over-Zealous in making DAVID the King, the prime ancestor of Jesus, because of the False notion that Jesus was to sit on the "THRONE OF HIS FATHER DAVID" (Acts 2:30). The Gospels BELIE This Prophecy, for they tell us that instead of Jesus Sitting on his Father's (DAVID) Throne, it was Pontious Pilate, a ROMAN Governor, a Pagan who sat on that very Throne and Condemmed its Rightful HEIR? (Jesus) to Death. "Never mind," says the Evangelist, "IF NOT IN HIS FIRST COMING, (simply because Jesus Failed in His first coming!) THEN IN HIS SECOND COMING HE WILL FULFILL THIS PROPHECY & THREE HUNDRED OTHERS BESIDE." (so many Christians of today a knowledgable Christian as that really accept that Jesus is a Failure!) But with their extravagant enthusiasm to trace the Ancestry of Jesus PHYSICALLY to David (for this is actually what the Bible say - THAT THE FRUIT OF HIS (David's) LIONS, ACCORDING TO THE FLESH" (literally not metaphorically Acts 2:30), both the "Inspired" Authors trip and Fall on the very First Step.<br /><br />Matthew 1:6 says that Jesus was the Son of DAVID through SOLOMON (with a thousand wives?), but Luke 3:31 on the other hand says that he(Jesus) was the son of DAVID through NATHAN. One need not to ba a Gyneacologist to tell by no stretch of the Imagination could the seed of DAVID reach the Mother of Jesus both through SOLOMON & NATHAN at the same time? We know that both the Authors (Matthew & Luke) are Confounded Liars, because Jesus as we all know was Conceived Miraculously, without any Male intervention. That even if we Concede a Physical Ancestry through DAVID, both authors would still be Proved Liars for the Obviious Reason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-56212072586311092872009-07-01T20:05:45.540-07:002009-07-01T20:05:45.540-07:00THE GENEALOGY OF Jesus from David to Jesus
Accord...THE GENEALOGY OF Jesus from David to Jesus<br /><br />According to Matthew ---- Accordintg to Luke<br /><br />D A V ID-------------------DAVID<br /><br />1. Solomon-----------------1. Nathan<br /><br />2. Roboam------------------2. Mattatha<br /><br />3. Abia--------------------3. Menan<br /><br />4. Asa---------------------4. Melea<br /><br />5. Josaphat----------------5. Eliakim<br /><br />6. Joram-------------------6. Jonan<br /><br />7. Ozias-------------------7. Joseph<br /><br />8. Joatham-----------------8. Juda<br /><br />9. Achaz-------------------9. Simeon<br /><br />10. Ezekias---------------10. Levi<br /><br />11. Manasses--------------11. Matthat<br /><br />12. Amon------------------12. Jorim<br /><br />13. Josias----------------13. Eliezer<br /><br />14. Jechonias-------------14. Jose<br /><br />15. Salathiel-------------15. Er<br /><br />16. Zorobabel-------------16. Elmodam<br /><br />17. Abiud-----------------17. Cosam<br /><br />18. Eliakim---------------18. Addi<br /><br />19. Azor------------------19. Melchi<br /><br />20. Sadoc-----------------20. Neri<br /><br />21. Achim-----------------21. Salathiel<br /><br />22. Eliud-----------------22. Zorobabel<br /><br />23. Eleazar---------------23. Rhesa<br /><br />24. Matthan---------------24. Joanna<br /><br />25. Jacob-----------------25. Juda<br /><br />26. Joseph----------------26. Joseph<br /><br />27. Jesus-----------------27. Semei<br /><br />--------------------------28. Mattathias<br /><br />--------------------------29. Maath<br /><br />--------------------------30. Nagge<br /><br />--------------------------31. Esli<br /><br />--------------------------32. Naum<br /><br />--------------------------33. Amos<br /><br />--------------------------34. Mattathias<br /><br />--------------------------35. Joseph<br /><br />--------------------------36. Janna<br /><br />--------------------------37. Melchi<br /><br />--------------------------38. Levi<br /><br />--------------------------39. Matthat<br /><br />--------------------------40. Heli<br /><br />--------------------------41. Joseph<br /><br />--------------------------42. JesusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-31402201345836980382009-07-01T19:30:04.297-07:002009-07-01T19:30:04.297-07:00MARAMI pong GINAWANG MALI o HISTORICAL INACCURACIE...MARAMI pong GINAWANG MALI o HISTORICAL INACCURACIES (DYAN SA BIBLE MAKIKITA ANG MGA INACCURACIES SA SINASABI MO MR. CENON BEBI! LIKE THE GENEALOGY OF A MAN WHO HAS NO GENEALOGY! ITS THE GREATEST LIE RECORDED IN THE BIBLE!) ang mga SKOLAR NILA nung I-INTERPRET (THE PURE AND TRUE QUR'AN IS ONLY IN ARABIC THOSE KORAN INTERPRETATION INTO DIFFERENT LANGUAGES IS ONLY TO HELP NEW MUSLIM UNDERSTAND THE CLOSEST MEANING OF THE SAME. BUT DURING PRAYERS 5 TIMES DAILY THE QUR'AN RECITATION SHOULD BE IN ARABIC, NOT THE INTERPRETAION IN ANY LANGUAGE.) ang kanilang AKLAT.<br />(THE QUR'AN REMAINS PURE TIL THIS VERY DAY! UNLIKE YOUR BIBLE NA MERONG 73 BOOKS AT 66 BOOKS! AT ALIN KAYA DOON ANG TOTOO? NAGTATANONG LAMANG PO AT TANDAAN PO NINYO MGA KAIBIGAN MAY SINASABI ANG BIBLIYA MISMO basa; Revelation 22:18-19. kaya mag-ingat po tayo? AT MARAMI PA PONG SALUNGATAN AT KONTRA-KONTRA NA NILALAMAN ITONG BIBILIYA! SA SUSUNOD PO ANG BIBLE CONTRADICTION ANG ATING TALAKAYIN MGA KAIBIGAN AT MGA GILIW NA TAGA SUBAYBAY SA BLOG NA ITO.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-51206864146877795402009-07-01T18:58:46.833-07:002009-07-01T18:58:46.833-07:00ANG AKALA KO PO SI MR.CENON BEBI LAMANG PO ANG KOM...ANG AKALA KO PO SI MR.CENON BEBI LAMANG PO ANG KOMUKONTRA SA BIBLIYA AT KAY KRISTO? ITO PO PALANG PAGTATALA NI MATTHEW AT LUKE PATUNGKOL SA GENEALOGY NG IISANG TAO NA SI JESUS PO EH MAGKAKONTRA AT MAGKASALUNGAT NA RIN PO PALA EH KATULAD NG KAY MR. CENON BEBI. AT ANG MAS HIGIT PA PO NA NAKAKATAKOT DOON AY ANG MGA SAKSI NA ITO AY NAG FABRICATE O NAG-IMBENTO PA PO NG MAGKAIBANG GENEALOGY PATUNGKOL KAY JESUS ISANG TAONG WALA NA MAN PONG GENEALOGY! HINDI PO BA? AS WE ALL KNOW JESUS WAS BORN MIRACULOUSLY WITHOUT ANY HUMAN INTERVENTION FROM A VIRGIN! HINDI PO BA? NOW MATT & LUKE ARE FABRICATING DIFFERENT GENEALOGY FOR A MAN WHO HAS NO GENEALOGY! AT ANG MASAKIT PA PO DITO SOME OTHER STUPID MORON BIBLE READER LIKE MR. CENON BEBI JUST ACCEPT THIS LIES FROM THE BIBLE WITHOUT EVEN THINKING THE REAL JESUS THEY ARE BELIEVING IN.!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-369996846023414746.post-29950850697095364682009-07-01T18:41:38.547-07:002009-07-01T18:41:38.547-07:00Para po niyang PINAGTAPAT ang SALINGLAHI mula sa N...Para po niyang PINAGTAPAT ang SALINGLAHI mula sa NANAY NIYA at ang SALINGLAHI mula sa TATAY NIYA at saka niya ITINANONG kung BAKIT MAGKAIBA.<br />(nakakatuwa po hindi po ba? ang pangangatwira ni Mr.Cenon Bebi, hindi po alam kong itong si Mr. Bebi alam ang ibig sabihin ng Salinglahi o Genealogy! ang issue po dito mga kaibigan ay ang Genealogy ng isang tao na si Jesus! papaano sya magkakaroon ng dalawang Genealogy? uulitin ko na naman po! Jesus a man without Genealogy, who was born miraculously without any human intervention fron a virgin as known to them or to Mr. Bebi. now! ito ngayon ginagago at sinalaula ni Mr. Bebi by imbenting Jesus Genealogy! hindi ko lamang po alam kong nasa tamang katinoan pa itong si Mr. Cenon Bebi mga kaibigan. bahala na lamang po kayong mag-isip mga giliw na taga subaybay! pagdating sa usaping Jesus Genealogy!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com