Basahin po natin ang mga sinabi niya at bilang KAWANGGAWA sa KANYA at sa mga TULAD NIYA ay ipaliwanag po natin ang mga punto na HINDI NIYA NAIINTINDIHAN.
Sabi ng MUSLIM:
Part 2
Jesus Attests That Bowing Down is for Allah Alone
3. Satan tested Jesus saying to him: (If you be the son of God, command that these stones be made bread,) to eat from it after he become hungry, and Jesus replied: (Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God)
The above means that real life is not sustained by bread alone. Rather, it is also sustained by what revives the soul.
CENON BIBE:
WALA pong PAGTATALO riyan. GINAYA o INULIT lang po nitong MUSLIM ang SINABI ng PANGINOONG HESUS na "Man does not live by break alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God."
MAGANDA pong pansinin ang sinabi na "every WORD ..."
Diyan po ay sinasabi na MAHALAGA ang BAWAT SALITA ng DIYOS.
Ngayon, mayroon pong "salita" o sinabi ang Diyos (tulad ng mga kautusan Niya) at mayroon ding "SALITA ng DIYOS."
Ang SALITA ng DIYOS ay ang PANGINOONG HESU KRISTO. Bilang SALITA ng DIYOS ay PINATOTOHANAN sa BIBLIYA na si KRISTO ay DIYOS.
Sa John 1:1 po ay sinasabi, "In the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was WITH GOD, and the WORD was GOD."
Sa Jn 1:14 ay PINATOTOHANAN din na "And the WORD [who is GOD] BECAME FLESH and DWELT AMONG US."
Ang SALITA o WORD na tinutukoy na DIYOS sa Jn1:1 ay si HESUS. Si HESUS din po ang WORD na DIYOS na NAGKATAWANG TAO ayon sa Jn1:14.
Ibig sabihin po, kung mahalaga ang "mga salita" o kautusan ng Diyos ay GAANO PA KAYA KAHALAGA ang SALITA na DIYOS o si KRISTO?
NAPAKAHALAGA po dahil ang HINDI nga KIKILALA at HINDI TATANGGAP kay KRISTO ay WALANG BUHAY na WALANG HANGGAN. (Jn17:3, Jn 3:16-18)
Sabi sa Jn 17:3, "Now this is ETERNAL LIFE, that they should know you {God the FATHER] the only true God, AND the ONE whom you sent, JESUS CHRIST.'
NAPAKALINAW po riyan na HINDI LANG ang DIYOS AMA ang DAPAT KILALANIN para MAGKAROON ng BUHAY na WALANG HANGGAN kundi PATI NA RIN ang DIYOS ANAK na si HESU KRISTO.
Nangangahulugan na ang HINDI KIKILALA kay HESUS bilang ANAK ng DIYOS O bilang DIYOS ANAK ay HINDI PAPASOK sa PARAISO o sa LANGIT.
MUSLIM:
Whoever believes in Allah and implements His Commandments, is truly alive. The believer, who live to eat, is dead, although he appears alive.
CENON BIBE:
Huwag po sanang mao-offend ang reactor nating MUSLIM pero HINDI PO ang KANILANG ALLAH ang TINUTUKOY sa Matthew4:1-11.
In fact, HINDI po NABANGGIT diyan ang KANILANG ALLAH. ALLAH is NEVER even MENTIONED in the BIBLE, so the LORD JESUS could NEVER have REFERRED to the GOD of ISLAM.
MUSLIM:
"Allah said, what translated means; (Is he who was dead 'without faith by ignorance and disbelief' and We gave him life 'by knowledge and Faith' and set him a light 'or belief' whereby he can walk among men,like him who is in darkness ' of disbelief and hypocrisy' from which he can never come out)Q.6:122"
CENON BIBE:
Ayon po sa reactor nating MUSLIM, ang ALLAH daw NILA ang NAGSABI ng mga binanggit niya.
Maaari ba natin MAITANONG sa KANYA kung KAILAN at SAANG PAGKAKATAON SINABI ng KANILANG ALLAH ang mga BINANGGIT NIYA na nagmula raw sa QURAN? WHERE and WHEN DID their God TALK DIRECTLY to their PROPHET?
Ayon kasi mismo sa mga BALIK ISLAM at mga MUSLIM na NAKAUSAP natin ay HINDI KAILANMAN KINAUSAP ng KANILANG DIYOS ang KANILANG PROPETA.
Sabi nila at ayon mismo sa mga INTERPRETATION ng mga SCHOLAR NILA ay ang "ANGHEL na si JIBRIL" ang KUMAUSAP sa kanilang PROPETA. THEY THEMSELVES PROCLAIM that IT WAS AN "ANGEL" who TALKED to their PROPHET.
Kung ganoon ay HINDI NGA DIYOS ang NAGSALITA sa KANILANG PROPETA kundi isa lamang "ANGHEL."
KAIBA yan sa KARANASAN ng mga PROPETA sa BIBLIYA na KINAUSAP MISMO ng DIYOS. The PROPHETS of GOD were CHOSEN and SENT by GOD HIMSELF who DIRECTLY TALKED TO THEM. Ang PROPETA ng ISLAM, ayon sa mga MUSLIM, ay HINDI KINAUSAP ng DIYOS. Ang KUMAUSAP sa KANILANG PROPETA ay "ANGHEL."
Ngayon, para MAS ACCURATE, hindi ba MAS TAMA kung ang SASABIHIN ng MUSLIM na KAUSAP natin ay "THE ANGEL SAID" sa halip na "ALLAH SAID"?
Nagtatanong lang po tayo.
MUSLIM:
They are unequal. Whoever is dead (the disbeliever) then Allah resurrects, through faith, and gives him guidance, light, a religion that differentiates between Halal (permissible) and Haram (impermissible), Light and Darkness, Shirk (polytheism) and Tawhid (monotheism) and Good and Evil. This is not equal to the example of whoever is misguided and led astray, who lives for this life only, who cannot differentiate between Shirk and Tawhid, Light and Darkness and Good and Evil.
CENON BIBE:ARAL po NILA yan.
Sa PANINIWALA po nating mga KRISTIYANO ay TANGING ang mga KUMILALA at TUMANGGAP kay HESUS bilang DIYOS at TAGAPAGLIGTAS ang BUBUHAYING MULI ng DIYOS (Jn3:16, 11:25-26) at BIBIGYAN ng BUHAY na WALANG HANGGAN. (Jn 17:3)
NO ONE can be SAVED if HE DOES NOT BELIEVE in the LORD JESUS CHRIST as GOD and SAVIOR.
Ang mga HINDI KIKILALA at HINDI TATANGGAP kay KRISTO ay WALANG BUHAY na WALANG HANGGAN bagkus ay KINUKONDENA na NILA ang KANILANG SARILI sa APOY ng IMPIERNO. (Jn3:18)
MUSLIM:
4. The "son of God," that the bible repeats must be explained according to mother versus of the Bible. The term, the "son of God", was used when talking about Jesus, his followers and all believers of Allah. Jews and Christians have all claimed it for themselves. Allah said, what translated means: (And 'both the Jews and Christians say: "We are the children of Allah and His loved ones".) Q.5:18
CENON BIBE:
SORRY po pero NEVER po SINASABI ng mga HUDYO at KRISTIYANO na "WE are the children of ALLAH." CHRISTIANS NEVER MAKE SUCH A STATEMENT.
Marahil po ay MALI ang PAGKAUNAWA ng NAG-TRANSLATE ng Q5:18 sa TUNAY na sinasabi ng QURAN.
MUSLIM:
These term has two possible meanings. One is being "son of God" in terms of being rightly guided and is meant as an honor for the believers. This is what some call "God fathering." The opposite meaning, of this term, is being called "The Son of Satan or the children of Viper" as the Bible calls some Jews. We all know that they are not descendants of Vipers, or Satan. rather, they were called "Sons of Vipers" because of their deceitful ways and dangerous poison (their opposition to the true religion). They were called "children of Satan" for their Lies and Deceit. To call those, who believe in Allah. "son of God or Allah" is to show their righteousness, blessings, implementing the religion, obedience to Him and benefiting from the Light that He sends down to His Messengers.
CENON BIBE:
This is one of the RARE TIMES that I hear a MUSLIM referring to HIMSELF or to MUSLIMS in general as "SON(S) of ALLAH." Yung ibang MUSLIM ay nagsabi na WALA raw ANAK ang KANILANG DIYOS.
Ngayon, kung sinasabi ng reactor nating MUSLIM na puwedeng tawaging "SON(S) of ALLAH" ang mga naniniwala sa KANILANG DIYOS, tinatawag ba NILANG "FATHER" ang kanilang ALLAH?
If they can CALL THEMSELVES as "SON(S) of ALLAH" then shouldn't if follow that THEY (MUSLIMS) CAN CALL THEIR GOD as "ALLAH OUR FATHER"?
I hope someone would answer this question to clarify things to us.
Paki sagot naman po ang tanong na iyan. Diyan natin makikita kung UMAAYON ang kausap nating MUSLIM sa SINASABI NIYA RITO.
MUSLIM:
The second meaning is of being begotten. Children are a part and some of their parents. There is no doubt, to those who enjoy sound minds, belief, knowledge and who know the difference between the Creator and the creation, that this meaning is false.
CENON BIBE:
I believe our MUSLIM REACTOR does NOT KNOW that the term "son" MEANS "BEGOTTEN" or "BORN OF."
The USE of the term "SON" to MEAN "BORN OF A PARENT" is the MOST COMMON MEANING of that word.
Thus to say that the phrease "SON of GOD" CANNOT BE UNDERSTOOD AS "BEGOTTEN of GOD" is to OUTRIGHTLY TWIST and DISTORT its CLEAR and OBVIOUS MEANING.
TRUE BELIEVERS of GOD DO NOT RESORT to TWISTED or DISTORTED LOGIC or THINKING.
MUSLIM:
One cannot attribute such a thing to God or Allah, all praised be to Him. There is no blood, or parent-son, relationship between Allah and or any of His creation, Allah is All-Independent from such a thing.
CENON BIBE:
THAT is PRECISELY WHY the ISLAMIC GOD ALLAH IS NOT the ONE being REFERRED TO by OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST, whenever Jesus spoke about GOD.
When the LORD JESUS refers to GOD in the BIBLE, HE is REFERRING to HIS FATHER (GREEK ABBA and PATER) who BEGAT HIM o FROM WHOM HE CAME OUT OF.
In fact, Jesus was not the only one who ATTESTED that HE is the TRUE SON of GOD. GOD HIMSELF SPOKE from HEAVEN and PROCLAIMED BEFORE MEN that JESUS is HIS "BELOVED SON."
When Jesus was baptized in the Jordan river, GOD TOLD WITNESSES that "THIS (JESUS) IS MAY BELOVED SON."
Again, in the presence of the apostles of Jesus, GOD SPOKE and PROCLAIMED that JESUS "IS MY BELOVED SON."
These verses SHOW that THE GOD referred to by JESUS in the BIBLE is NOT the GOD being proclaimed by MUSLIMS. The GOD that JESUS PRAISES and TALKS ABOUT in the BIBLE is HIS VERY OWN FATHER, a fact that MUSLIMS say does not apply to their God.
Thus, according to the teachings of some Muslims, the GOD whom JESUS PROCLAIMS as the ONE, TRUE GOD IS NOT the GOD whom Muslims BELIEVE IN.
MUSLIM:
This term, "son of God," is used to show of Allah" in term of their belief, revering Allah and loving Him This term, "son", is also used to confirm blood relations. To decide which of the above two meaning is valid, one must use what is always use to describe a matter and shun the meaning that is vague. What is vague must be explained according to what is clear and evident. This meaning will not be disputed by those who know the language or those who have SANE MINDS.
CENON BIBE:
I agree that the term "son of God" should be explained and that our MUSLIM REACTOR RIGHTLY defines it as "to CONFIRM BLOOD RELATIONS." In the case of our LORD JESUS, it CONFIRMS that HE is TRULY the SON of GOD.
Our MUSLIM REACTOR is only CONFUSING HIMSELF by MAKING VAGUE STATEMENTS about a CLEAR and OBVIOUS MEANING of the terrm "son of God" as referring to Jesus.
I don't know what he means by "SANE" but if he is saying that a "SANE" MIND is one that TWISTS and DISTORTS the CLEAR and OBVIOUS MEANINGS of WORDS, then I will gladly say that I am a "fool."
I would rather be a "fool" who ACCEPTS the REAL MEANING of WORDS than be a "SANE" person who DELIBERATELY IGNORES and REJECTS the TRUTH.
