Kung sa nauna nating mga ARTIKULO ay IPINAKITA NATIN ang PAGDADAGDAG at PAGBABALUKTOT NILA sa Deut 18:18, ngayon ay IPAKIKITA NATIN ang PAGPUPUMILIT NILA na "KAPATID" ng mga ISRAELITA si ISMAEL, ang NINUNO raw ng PROPETA NILA.
KAILANGAN po KASI NILANG MAIPILIT na "KAPATID" ni ISRAEL si ISMAEL dahil ang PROPETA na IBABANGON ng DIYOS ayon sa Deut 18:18 ay "MULA sa LAHI ni ISRAEL."
Heto po ang sabi sa Deut 18:18:
"I will raise up for them a prophet like you FROM AMONG THEIR KINSMEN, and will put my words into his mouth; he shall tell them all that I command him."
MALINAW po na MULA sa KAANAK ng mga ISRAELITA ang mga ARABO o ISMAELITA kung saan KABILANG ang PROPETA ng BALIK ISLAM?
Ang PROBLEMA ng mga BALIK ISLAM ay HINDI KAANAK ng mga ISRAELITA ang mga ISMAELITA kaya MALINAW na HINDI LALAPAT sa PROPETA NILA ang SINASABI sa Deut 18:18.
Ngayon ay HETO po ang PANGANGATWIRAN ng mga BALIK ISLAM para MAIPILIT na KAANAK ng MGA ISRAELITA ang mga ISMAELITA. Batay po ito sa SINABI ng SKOLAR nilang si AHMED DEEDAT:
Arabs and Jews
If Ishmael and Isaac are the sons of the same father Abraham, then they are brothers. And so the children of the one are the BRETHREN of the children of the other. The children of Isaac are the Jews and the Children of Ishmael are the Arabs - so they are BRETHREN to one another. The Bible affirms, 'AND HE (ISHMAEL) SHALL DWELL IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.' (Genesis 16:12). 'AND HE (ISHMAEL) DIED IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.(Genesis 25:18). The children of Isaac are the brethren of the Ishmaelites. In like manner Muhummed is from among the brethren of the Israeli tes beause he was a descendant of Ishamel the son of Abraham. This exactly as the prophecy has it- 'FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN'.(Deut.18:18). There the prophecy distinctly mentions that the coming prophet who would be like Moses, must arise NOT from the 'children of Israel' or from 'among the mselves', but from among their brethren. MUHUMMED THEREFORE WAS FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN!
PALPAK na naman po ang PANGANGATWIRAN nitong mga BALIK ISLAM.
Bakit po.
MGA ANAK po ba ni ABRAHAM ang KAUSAP sa Deut 18:18 o MGA ANAK ni ISRAEL?
Kung MGA ANAK po ni ABRAHAM ang KAUSAP ay DAPAT KASAMA NILA ROON ang mga ISMAELITA.
Ang kaso po ay WALA po ROON ang MGA ANAK ni ISMAEL.
Ang mga NAROON PO at KAUSAP ng DIYOS ay ang MGA ANAK LANG ni ISRAEL. SILA po ang mga KAANIB sa 12 TRIBU ng ISRAEL na NAGMULA sa 12 ANAK ni ISRAEL.
So, MALINAW po na ang TINUTUKOY na PAGMUMULAN ng PROPETA sa Deut 18:18 ay SA ANGKAN ni ISRAEL at HINDI sa ANGKAN ni ABRAHAM.
Si ISMAEL po ay HINDI ANAK ni ISRAEL kaya HINDI SIYA KASAMA sa SINASABIHAN DIYAN.
Si ISMAEL ay HINDI KAANAK at HINDI KALAHI ni ISRAEL kaya NEVER na KASALI RIYAN ang APO ni ISMAEL na si MUHAMMAD.
NAGPUPUMILIT LANG po itong MGA BALIK ISLAM na MAISINGIT ang PROPETA NILA sa HINDI NAMAN ITO KASALI.
Kaya po WALANG KWENTA ang MGA PANGANGATWIRAN at PAGDADAHILAN nitong BALIK ISLAM.
SORRY po. MASAKIT ang KATOTOHANAN pero KAILANGANG TANGGAPIN NATIN.
Cenon Bibe jr...
ReplyDeleteQUOTING This;
Sa kagustohang ilihis po nya ang katutohanan ng Deut. 18:18
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."
Arabs and Jews
If Ishmael and Isaac are the sons of the same father Abraham, then they are brothers. And so the children of the one are the BRETHREN of the children of the other. The children of Isaac are the Jews and the Children of Ishmael are the Arabs - so they are BRETHREN to one another. The Bible affirms, 'AND HE (ISHMAEL) SHALL DWELL IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.' (Genesis 16:12). 'AND HE (ISHMAEL) DIED IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.(Genesis 25:18). The children of Isaac are the brethren of the Ishmaelites. In like manner Muhummed is from among the brethren of the Israeli tes beause he was a descendant of Ishamel the son of Abraham. This exactly as the prophecy has it- 'FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN'.(Deut.18:18). There the prophecy distinctly mentions that the coming prophet who would be like Moses, must arise NOT from the 'children of Israel' or from 'among the mselves', but from among their brethren. MUHUMMED THEREFORE WAS FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN!
PALPAK na naman po ang PANGANGATWIRAN nitong mga BALIK ISLAM.
Bakit po.
MGA ANAK po ba ni ABRAHAM ang KAUSAP sa Deut 18:18 o MGA ANAK ni ISRAEL?
Muslim;
Naku!!!! NagtatangaTangahan na naman! Demon este Cenon Bibe pala ang lamya naman ang depensa mo?! Eh ano po ba talaga ang NAKASAAD sa Deut. 18:18? Di po ba ganito?
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee,"
Na ang ibig lamang sabihin ng Talatang yan at ang tinutukoy dyan ay ang mga lahing Israel, Moses etc etc kong sino man ang mga nandyang mga ISRAELITEs ay mula sa angkan ni Abrahan yan at isang Israelita na Propeta at Pinili ng Dios (si Moses).
Cenon Bibe jr;
Kung MGA ANAK po ni ABRAHAM ang KAUSAP ay DAPAT KASAMA NILA ROON ang mga ISMAELITA.
Muslim;
Haahahahahahahaha! Ano? Hoy! MangMang kapanahonan na po ni Moses ito Demon este Cenon Bibe pala. ganon lamang ba kaliit yang UTAK mo para Unawain ang nakasulat sa Deut 18:18? Kawawa ka naman! Ang Tanga mo naman Talaga! huwag mo naman idisplay pa dito yang KatAngahan mo! nakakahiya na po eh!
Cenon Bibe jr;
Ang kaso po ay WALA po ROON ang MGA ANAK ni ISMAEL.
Muslim;
So kapag wala na pala doon ay hindi na po pala kapatid ang turing nitong iniIdolo ninyong si Demon este Cenon Bibe pala! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! Kawawa naman po ano? Nagpupumilit pong isalba ang kanyang katangahan mula sa nasabing Talata ng Bibliya Deut. 18:18 Kawawa naman po!
Muslim;
ReplyDeleteBrod itong si Cenon Bibe ay sapul na sapul at Tumbok na Tumbok sa HULA ng Kanilang Bibliya! Mantakin nyo naman po hindi pa man nya NIKIKITA at NAKIKILALA si Michael Hart ay SINISIRAAN at PINAPARATANGAN nya na po kaagad ang Taong ito ng kong ano-ano! Ano po ba ang masama kong ang isang Taong may UTAK at may TALINO na katulad ni Michael Hart ay magbibigay ng patas na Hatol sa Propeta ng Islam? May nakikita po ba kayong masma sa ginagawa ni Michael Hart para siraan na sya kaagad nitong si Demon este Cenon Bibe pala?! ha? dear readers of this blog?! nagtatanong lamang po; ayan po ang sinasabi nitong si Demon este Cenon Bibe pala patungkol sa Patas na Hatol na iginawad nitong si Michael Hart sa Propeta ng Islam...
Cenon Bibe;
Hindi po nag-balik islam yang hart? Akala ko po naniwala sya kay muhammad? D po kaya binola lang kayo nyan?
Muslim;
Kailangan pa po bang mag Muslim ang isang Tao para Tanggapin at Paniniwalaan ang Mabuti at Makaktutohanang Gawa ng Propeta ng Islam? So ayan po malinaw at tuwirang pinaratangan nitong si Demon este Cenon Bibe pala si Michael Hart na isang Mambobola daw! Tama po bang mangGagaling ang mga salitang ito sa isang nagpapakilala pa sa inyo na isang mabait at mabuti po daw na Katoliko? Kaya din naman siguro nababastos sya sa mga kablog nya rito mArahil na rin siguro sa di tuwid nyang paguugali. Kong si Michael Hart nga naman na hindi pa nga nya lubos na KILALA at NIKIKITA ay nakuha nya na pong SIRAAN, how much more doon sa mga kablog at katext nya na po mismo!? Kaya po hindi na po siguro tayo magtataka kong nababastus sya dito sa blog or sa text.
Kaya nga po Sapul na Sapul at Tumbok na Tumbok po talaga itong si Demon este Cenon Bibe na ito sa HULA/NAKASAAD ng kanilang Bibliya.
Matthew 7:1-2
1
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Sa tingin nyo po nakaDesign po ba ang nasabing Talata kay Demon este Cenon Bibe pala? Oo po akmang-akma po ang nasabing Talata sa kanya! If not to most Catholics! parang isinukat po ang nasabing Talata kay Demon este Cenon Bibe pala! hehehehehehe!
Yon lamang po at Maraming pong salamat!
Cenon Bibe;
ReplyDeleteC muhammad po ay NEVER KINILALA sa labas ng islam
Cno pong Kristyano ang kumilala kay muhammad. Kilala ko sya na propeta nyo. D namin sya propeta
Muslim;
ito isang Tao na may UTAK di tulad mo... si Michael H. Hart
Michael H. Hart (born April 28, 1932 in New York City) is a Jewish American astrophysicist who has also written three books on history and
controversial articles on a variety of subjects. Hart describes himself as a Jeffersonian liberal, while his critics call him a conservative and a
racial separatist.
Hart, a graduate of the Bronx High School of Science who enlisted in the U.S. Army during the Korean war, received his undergraduate degree at
Cornell University in mathematics and later earned a Ph.D. in astrophysics at Princeton University. He also holds graduates degrees in physics,
astronomy, and computer science, as well as a law degree. He was a research scientist at NASA before leaving to be a professor of physics at Trinity
University in San Antonio, Texas.
Cenon Bibe;
Porke d namin kinilala propeta nyo racial seperatist na kami? Baluktot po paghusga nyo
Muslim;
hehehehehehe! Ano kamo? seperatist kayo? sinong may sabi BobO yon BabaTukan ko walang UTAK yon hindi marunong umunawa ng kanyag binabasa! hehehehehe! kawawa naman hindi po talaga nakakaunawa itong si Demon este Cenon na ito sa kanyang binabasa! (Michael Hart) He has also taught both astronomy and history of science at Anne Arundel Community College in Arnold, Maryland.
His published work in peer-reviewed scientific journals includes several detailed computer simulations of atmospheric evolution.
Among Hart's articles was one, published in 1975, that gave scientific support for the conclusion that the only intelligent life in the Milky Way
Galaxy resides on the planet Earth.
Cenon Bibe;
Kelan po nag-balik islam yang hart na yan? Paki sgot nga po
Muslim;
ReplyDelete1 MUHAMMAD From the 100, a Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History
Cenon Bibe;
Ano po? Kelan nag-balik islam yang hart na yan bilang patunay na naniwala sya kay muhammad? Paki sagot po
Kelan po nag-balik islam yang genius na tinutukoy nyo? Bat d po nyo masagot?
Muslim;
basahin mo nalang sa blog mo, ang pagka-alam ko isa syang hudyo at hindi muslim... pero ginagawa nya ang kanyang pag-aaral na walang pinapanigan at hindi bias
Cenon Bibe;
Hindi po nag-balik islam yang hart? Akala ko po naniwala sya kay muhammad? D po kaya binola lang kayo nyan?
Muslim;
batay sa mga patunay at evidence lamang di sya bias
infact he rank Propet Muhammad as number ONE Jesus as number 3 check it from your blog nandirito na yan... at nabasa ko na yan umaga pa lamang
Cenon Bibe;
Yang mga scientist na yan e kailangan ng pera para sa research nila. D kaya binola kayo nyan para makakuha ng pera sa mga arabo?
Bat hindi nag-balik islam yang hart kung totoong naniwala sya sa propeta nyo. D kaya niloko lang kayo nyan?
Muslim;
and He Hart give ample reasons why he choose this certain person as number 1, 2, and 3 at tingin ko naman valid ang mga rason nya at di bias
He is a Jew at mayaman ang mga hudyo di ba magaling sila sa business. bakit mo naman ijudge ang isang matalinong tao ng ganyan? ang BobO mo naman!
Cenon Bibe;
ReplyDeleteKung totoong naniwala sya sa mga cnabi nya, d b dapat nag-balik islam sya? Kaso hindi d po ba? Malamang nambola lang yan
Muslim;
well mabuti sya ang tanongin mo tungkol dyan... di porket gumawa ang isang Tao ng makakabuti at katutohanan tungkol sa islam ay dapat na bang mag-
Cenon Bibe;
Mamaya po. Uulitin ko sa blog ang tanong ko kung bakit d yan nag-balik islam kung totoong naniwala sya kay muhammad
Muslim;
Kong Muslim sya?
well mabuti cguro sya ang tanongin mo tungkol dyan... di porket gumawa ang isang Tao ng makakabuti at katutohanan tungkol sa islam ay dapat na bang maging
Muslim sya?
He just RANK MUhammad as Number One as the Most Influential Persons in History and His Jesus rank only Number 3
base on His FAIR studies...
Cenon Bibe;
Naniwala kay muhammad pero hindi nag-balik islam? Tila nambola lang yan. Sabi nga, the proof of the pudding is in the eating
Cge po. Paki lagay sa blog ko mga comment nyo. Mamaya ko pa maaasikaso yan
Muslim;
kapag ikaw ba gumawa ng kabutihan o katutohanan tungo sa mga Muslim kailangan bang mag Muslim ka bago mo gawin ang mga bagay na yon? Babaw mo naman!
balibhasa klasi puro paninira ang mga gawain mo sa mga Muslim...
kaya ikinAkagulat mo ang katutohanan na ginawa nitong si Mr. Michael Hart sa Propeta ng Islam.
Yan ang hirap sayo eh Christiano ka talaga! galing mong manira ng Kapwa. hindi mo pa nga kilala itong si Michael Hart ay sinisiraan mo na kaagad!
Cenon Bibe;
Mabuti pa po kayo ang mag-comment sa blog ko. Para makita roon na may isang balik islam na hindi masama ang ugali
Muslim;
Bakit Hindi naman balik Islam si Michael Hart ah? ayon na nga lang ang masama sa kanya hindi mo pa man sya Nakikita at Nakilala SINISIRAAN mo na sya
Oh di ba Kahanga-hanga talaga yang pag-uugali nyong mga Kristyano?
kaya siguro nagre-act lamang ang mga muslim na kablog mo ayon sa inaasta ninyo sa kanila! cause and effect baga!
Hanga din talaga ako sa pagiging Kristyano mo eh... di mo pa man nakikilala ng lubos at nakikita itong si Micael Hart ay gusto mo ng syang Siraan at kong ano-ano na ang mga paninira na sinasabi mo laban sa Taong ito!
kahanga-hanga talaga ang mga pag-uugali ninyo... Kaya bait Sasama ang lopob ninyo kong maging Bastos ang mga kaBlog ninyo? eh ito nga isang Tao na si Michael di mo pa man kilala ay SINISDIRAN mo na! So kong nababastos man kayo ay Bunga lamang siguro yan ng mga GinaGawa ninyo sa inyong kapwa! kong baga nakahanap ka na ng katapat mo!
Cenon Bibe;
ReplyDeleteMga balik islam po ang sumisira sa islam. Masasama ang ugali, palamura at mga manloloko kasi karamihan sa balik islam
Bakit po? Ako ba ang palamura at liar na naninira sa Biblia at sa Kristyano? Balik islam po gumagawa nyan
Muslim;
Maling Paratang mo lamng yan! katulad din naman ng mga Paratang na Ginagawa mo sa isang Tao na hindi mo pa lubos kilala at hindi mo pa nakikita na si Michael Hart! bakit ang ginawa mo bang paninira kay Michael Hart di mo pa man sya nakikita at nakikilala ay mabuting gawain bang maituturing? turo po ba ng simbahan ninyo ang mga Paninirang yan?
Cenon Bibe;
Kung paninira ang ginagawa ko dapat nakakasagot kayo sa mga cnasabi ko. Kaso hindi kayo makatutol sa mga cnasabi ko dahil totoo lahat ng iyon
Muslim;
O di ba ang sabi mo; "Naniwala kay muhammad pero hindi nag-balik islam? Tila nambola lang yan. Sabi nga, the proof of the pudding is in the eating"
kaya ko nga inisa-isa ang pagkakatulad ni Moses at ni Muhammad eh. pero tila its too heavy for you to accept the truth talaga! di mo kaya ang katutohanan na gusto kong ibahagi sayo eh.
Cenon Bibe;
Paninira bang sabihin na hindi Diyos ang nagtayo sa inaniban nyo? Kung mali ako e d patunayan nyo. Kaso hindi nyo mapatunayang Diyos nagtayo sa inaniban nyo
Kung naniwala talaga c hart sa inyo e bat d sya umanib sa inyo? Malinaw na binola lang kayo. Kayo naman nagpabola agad
Muslim;
Oh huwag kang lumihis! Style mo talaga! Ang issue dito ay ang paninira mo sa isang tao na hindi mo pa man Nakikilala at Nakikita ay Siniriraan mo na ito.
iTo ang sabi mo; "Naniwala kay muhammad pero hindi nag-balik islam? Tila nambola lang yan. Sabi nga, the proof of the pudding is in the eating"
Cenon Bibe;
Ang sabihin nyo nagalit mga kapatid nyo dahil napatunayan kong puro mali at paninira ang cnasabi nila laban sa Kristyano at sa Bible
Muslim;
Huwag mo ngang ilihis eh! Tigas ng ULO mo! NakakaUNAWA ka ba? may issue tayong pinag-UUSAPAN dito! si Hart ay isang Nuetral na Nananaliksik ng Katutohanan at ito ang katutohanang kanyang natuklasan ay kanyang iginawad sa kong kanino nararapat!
brod sino ka naman kong kumpara kay Michael Hart na nagsasabi ng katutohan sa Propeta ng Islam! pwede ka bang ihambing kay Mr. Michael Hart?
In the Name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate
ReplyDelete"Resurrection or Resuscitation?"
In one of my books - "Who Moved the Stone?" I had promised to deal with the anomaly, where believers were reading simple English, yet were so conditioned that they were understanding exactly the opposite of what they were reading. The following story from real life will not only illustrate the point but will also elucidate our present case -
"Resurrection or Resuscitation"
I was about to leave for the Transvaal (South Africa) on a lecture tour, so I phoned my friend Hafiz Yusuf Dadoo of Standerton, informing him of my impending visit, as well as to inquire whether he needed anything from Durban. He said that as he was taking up Hebrew, I should try and obtain a Bible in the Hebrew language with a translation in English side by side.
I went to the "Bible House" in Durban. Without any difficulty I found the appropriate Bible for my friend, the "Authorized Version," also known as the King James Version, looking for one with the best print and at the cheapest price, I noticed the lady behind the counter had lifted up the telephone to speak to someone. I was out of hearing distance, nor was I interested, but after an exchange with the person on the other side of the line she put her hand on the mouthpiece and addressed me: "Excuse me, sir, are you Mr. Deedat?" I said: "Yes." She said: "The Supervisor of the Bible Society would like to meet you," I agreed. She spoke a few more words into the telephone and replaced the receiver. I said with a smile: "I thought that you were ringing the police." (perhaps because of the number of Bibles I was handling!). - She laughed and said: "No, it was the Rev. Roberts, the Supervisor, who wishes to speak to you."
Winning a Convert
Presently, Rev. Roberts approached me and after introducing himself he gestured to me to hand over to him the Bible which I was holding in my hand. I handed the book. He opened it and began reading to me: "And this is life eternal that they should know Thee the only True God and Jesus Christ whom Thou has sent." (John 17:3). (Subsequently, I checked up the Gospel references of his quotations).
After having listened to his reading of this scripture, I responded with the words: "I accept!" - meaning the implication of the Message he was trying to convey to me. I did not tell him then that what he was trying to convey to me was the same as the Holy Quran was telling mankind for the past fourteen hundred years - that all must believe in the One and Only God Almighty, and Jesus Christ is only a Messenger of God. The words of the Holy Quran are as follows:-
"Most Certainly the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, was an apostle of Allah and His Word, which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His Apostles" (The Holy Quran 4:171)
ReplyDeleteLove One Another
Rev. Roberts must have been elated to hear my words "I Accept," to his first quotation. He quickly opened the Bible in another place and began reading these words attributed to Jesus:-
"A new commandment I give unto you. That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another." "By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love for one another." (John 13:34-35)
A New Convert?
When he had finished reading these verses, I remarked: "Very good!" He was greatly encouraged with my comment. I sincerely meant what I said and there was no pretense. The Reverend found yet another quotation to clinch a convert for Christ. He began:-
"Judge not that ye be not judged." "For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged; and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." (Matthew 7:1-2)
To this quotation I responded with the words, "I agree!" My only reason for agreeing and accepting everything that the Reverend was reading to me was not of the "special discount" I was getting from the Bible Society on my purchases, but because these particular quotations were conveying the same message and ideals which Allah subhanahoo wa ta'aala was commanding the Muslims to preach and practice. I would be spiritually jaundiced to take exceptions to what was common to both of us - the Muslim and the Christian. For me to say that an identical message from my Book (the Holy Quran) was very good, but the same message in his Book (the Holy Bible) was very bad would be hypocritical in the extreme. It would be soul shaming untruth.
The Purpose
What was the real purpose of the Reverend's reading the Scripture to me? Indeed, I was getting a special discount on all my purchases from the Bible Society and I was perhaps the only non-Christian to get such a discount, though it was depending purely on a business transaction, and this information must have been passed on the Reverend as the Head of the Bible Society; that I was a Muslim there was no mistaking my identity, for my beard and my headgear were the badges of my Faith, easily recognized as such in this part of the world; and that, despite my numerous purchases of the Bibles in English (various versions), in Zulu, Afrikaans, Urdu, Arabic and other languages, I was not yet converted. Perhaps, what I really needed was a gentle push, the Supervisor must have been told. Hence the recitation of the preceding quotations to me. The implication of this reading was that I had probably not read those beautiful passages; how else was it possible, then, that I had not yet embraced Christianity?
A Problem
ReplyDeleteThe Reverend gentleman had taken the role of a teacher who wanted to teach, who wanted to impart new knowledge to his pupil.
Since I am commanded by my Prophet, peace be upon him, to seek knowledge I wanted to learn. I said: "I agree with all that you have read to me, but I have a problem with your Bible." "What problem have you got?" he asked. I said: "Please open the Gospel of St. Luke, chapter 3 verse 23." This he did. I said: "Please read." He read:-
"And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli," (Luke 3:23)
I drew the Reverend's attention to the words - "(As was supposed)." I said: "Do you see that the words 'As was supposed' are written within brackets?" He said that he saw that. I asked him: "Why are the brackets there?" He acknowledged, "I don't know, but I could find out for you from some Bible scholars." I admired his humility. Though I knew that all Supervisors of Bible Houses in South Africa are retired reverends, it was possible that this aspect of Bible knowledge was beyond their sphere. I said: "If you do not know, then let me tell you what the brackets are doing there in this verse. You do not have to take the trouble of looking for a Bible scholar."
I explained that in the "most ancient" manuscripts of Luke, the words "As was supposed" are not there. Your translators felt that without this interpolation the, ordinary Christians, not well grounded in faith, might slip and fall into the error of believing that Joseph the Carpenter was the actual physical father of Jesus. So they took the precaution of adding their own comment in brackets to avoid any misunderstanding. I said: "I am not trying to find fault with your system of adding words in brackets to assist the reader, but what intrigues me is that in all translations of the Bible in the African and Eastern languages you have retained the words "as was supposed" but have removed the brackets!. Couldn't the nations of the Earth besides the English understand the meaning and purpose of the brackets?
What is wrong with the Afrikaner? Why have you eliminated the brackets from the Afrikaans Bible? The Supervisor protested: "I didn't do it." I said: "I know that you personally did not do it but why have the Bible Society that you represent and your Bible scholars been playing with the 'Word of God?' If God Almighty did not see fit to preserve Luke from error what right has anybody to add to or delete from words in the 'Book of God?' What right have you to manufacture 'God's Words?'
Interpolations
The translator's own addition of words in brackets can easily be put into the mouth of St. Luke by merely removing the brackets, and by implication, if Luke was inspired by God to write what he did, then the interpolations automatically become the Word of God, which really is not the case. (More will be said on this subject in the forthcoming publication Is the Bible God's Word?) I concluded my explanation with the words - 'Your theologians of the day have succeeded where the alchemists of yore failed - of turning baser metal into shining gold.'"
The English Language
ReplyDeleteAt this stage the Reverend introduced irrelevancies into the discussion and the subject changed. He made some claims which made me say: "You see, sir, you English people do not know your own language." (With apologies to my readers whose mother tongue is English). He quickly retorted: "You mean to say that you know my language better than I do?" I said: "It would be presumptuous on my part to tell - an Englishman - that I understand your language better than you do." "Then what do you mean that we English people do not know our own language?" he demanded. I said again: "You see, sir, you read your Holy Scripture in your mother tongue, like every Christian belonging to a thousand different language groups, and yet each and every Christian language group understands the facts, opposite to what he is reading." "What are you referring to?" he asked.
A Ghost
I continued: "Do you remember the occasion when Jesus returned to that upper room after his alleged crucifixion: 'And saith unto them, (his disciples), 'Peace be unto you'' (Luke 24:36), and his disciples were terrified on recognizing him?" He answered that he remembered that incident. I inquired: "Why should they be terrified?" When one recognizes one's long-lost friend or one's beloved, the natural reaction is to feel overjoyed, elated and one wants to embrace and kiss the hands and feet of the beloved. Why did they get terrified?" The Reverend replied that they (the disciples) thought that they were seeing a ghost." I asked: "Did Jesus look like a ghost?" He said: "No." "Then why did they think that they were seeing a ghost when he did not look like a ghost?" I queried. The Reverend was clearly puzzled. I said: "Please allow me to explain."
Disciples Not Eye Witnesses
"You see, sir, the disciples of Jesus were not eye-witnesses or ear-witnesses to the actual happenings of the previous three days, as vouched for by St. Mark who says that at the most critical juncture in the life of Jesus: "they all forsook him and fled." (Mark 14:50). All the knowledge of the disciples regarding their Master was from hearsay. They had heard that their master was hanged on the Cross; they had heard that he had given up the Ghost; they had heard that he was dead and buried for three days. If one is confronted by a person with such a reputation then the conclusion is inescapable; they must be seeing a ghost. Little wonder these ten brave men were petrified."
"To disabuse their minds from the fear that gripped them, Jesus reasoned with them. He said: 'Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself' To put it in colloquial English, this is how he told them: 'What is wrong with you fellows, can't you see that I am the same person - who walked and talked with you, broke bread with you - flesh and blood in all respects.'
Why do doubts enter your minds? 'Handle me and see, for a spirit has no flesh and bones as you see me have.' (Luke 24:39). In other words he is telling them: 'If I have flesh and bones, then I am not a ghost, not a spook and not a spirit!'" "Is that right?" I asked. "Yes," he replied. I continued that, Jesus is telling them, as recorded in this verse, in basic English, that what the disciples were asked to "handle and see" was not a translated body, not a metamorphosed body and not a resurrected body, because a resurrected body is a spiritualised body. He is telling them in the clearest language humanly possible that he is not what they were thinking. They were thinking that he was a spirit, a resurrected body, one having been brought back from the dead. He is most emphatic that he is not!"
Spiritualization
ReplyDelete"But how can you be so sure that the resurrected body cannot materialize physically as Jesus had obviously done?" murmured the Reverend. I replied: "Because Jesus had himself pronounced that the resurrected bodies get spiritualised." When did he say any such thing?" inquired the Reverend. I answered: "Do you remember the incident as recorded in the Gospel of St. Luke, chapter 20, where the learned men of the Jews- "the chief priests and the scribes with the elders"- had come to him with a number of posers, and among them was one about a Jewess who had seven husbands in turn, one after another according to a Jewish custom, and in time all seven husbands and the woman too died?" The Reverend said that he did remember the occasion. I continued: "The trap that the religious hierarchy was trying to spring on him was; which one of the seven husbands was going to possess the woman on the 'Other side'- at the resurrection?- since they reasoned with Jesus that the seven brothers had her.
There was no problem while they fulfilled their obligation of trying to give her a child, because they had possessed her one by one in turn, and it was after the death of one that the other had taken her to wife. But since at the resurrection all seven will be brought to life simultaneously, there will be strife in heaven because all seven would want to get at her at the same time, specially if they had pleasure with her."
"Jesus debunked their false notion of the resurrection, by saying that at the resurrection: 'neither shall they die any more' (Luke 20:36) meaning that the resurrected persons will be Immortalised. They will not be subject to death any more, no more hanger or thirst, no more fatigue. In short, all the instruments of death will be powerless against the resurrected body. Jesus continues to explain: 'for they (the resurrected bodies) are equal unto the angles,' that is, that they will be Angelised - spiritualised, that they will become spirit-creatures, i.e. Spirits;'and the children of God, for such are the children of the resurrection." (Luke 20:36).
Jesus Not Spiritualised
I was taken off from the theme I was expounding two paragraphs above by the Reverend with the challenge: "But how can you be so sure..?" To continue from where I had deviated above - He is Not what they were thinking, that he was not a Spirit, not a Ghost, not a Spook. To assure them further after having offered his hands and feet for inspection and verification that his was a material, physical body, and that all their bewilderment and disbelief was unjustified, he asked his disciples: "Have you here any meat?" (Meaning something to eat). "And they gave him a piece of broiled fish and of a honeycomb, and he took it, and did eat before them." (Luke 24:41-43)
A Drama?
ReplyDeleteWhat was Jesus trying to prove by all his demonstrations of wanting his hands and feet to be handled and chewing and masticating broiled fish and honeycomb? Was all this a pretense, make-belief, an act or drama? "No!" Said Schleliermacher in 1819, a hundred years before I was born. Albert Schweizer records him saying: "If Christ had only eaten to show that he could eat, while he really had no need of nourishment, if would have been a pretense, something docetic."( In Quest of the Historical Jesus, page 64).
I had not know of Schleliermacher and other Christian scholars who over a hundred years ago doubted the death of Jesus on the cross as recorded by Albert Schweizer, when I was discussing this subject with the head of the Bible Society.
No Resurrection
"What is wrong with you (Christian) folk?" Jesus is telling you in the most unambiguous language that he is not a spirit - not spiritualised, not a resurrected person, and yet the whole Christian world believes that he was resurrected, i.e. spiritualised. Who is lying, you or him? How is it possible that you, each and every Christian, are reading your Bible in your own mother tongue and yet each and every groups is made to understand the exact opposite of what they are reading? If you read the Bible, say, in Hebrew, and pleaded that you did not understand what you were reading, I can appreciate this fact. If you read it in Greek and pleaded that you did not really understand the implications of what was written; I can appreciate this fact also. But the anomaly is that you are reading the Book, each and every one, in his own mother tongue, and are trained to understand the opposite of what is written. How have you been brainwashed, or rather, how have you been "Programmed," as the Americans would put it?
"Please tell me as to who is lying? Is it Jesus or a thousand million Christians of the world? Jesus says: "No!" to his being resurrected, and all of you say: "Yes!" Whom are we Muslims to believe, Jesus or his so called disciples? We Muslims would rather believe the Master. Did he not say: "The disciple is not greater than the Master."? (Matthew 10:24)
This was more than the Reverend had bargained for. He politely excused himself by saying that as he had to get ready to close his office, he would look forward to meeting me again. This was sheer evasive politeness!
With the Bible Society, I won the debate but lost the discount! No more discount for me from the Bible Society. But let my loss be your gain. If you dear reader, can remove a few cobwebs from your thinking on the subject of the Crucifixion, I will be amply rewarded.
Now here are the verses discussed put together :
"..Jesus himself stood in their midst, and said unto them, Peace be unto you...But they were terrified, and supposing that they were seeing a spirit... And he said unto them,.. 'Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me and see; for a spirit has no flesh and bones, as you see me have'... And showed them his hands and feet... And while they yet believed not for joy and wondered, he said unto them, 'Have ye here any meat?'.. And they gave him a piece of broiled fish, and of a honeycomb... And he took it, and did eat before them." (Luke 24:36-43)
Anonymous Catholic;
ReplyDeleteAlam mo muslim, pinatunyan lang lalo ni Hart na hindi Diyos ang nagtayo ng relihiyon nyo.
Hindi din kasi nya mapatunayan na kinausap nga ng Diyos si muhammad upang itayo ang relihiyong muslim.
O basa sa mga pi-nost nyo na sinabi ni hart:
"When he was forty years old, Muhammad became convinced that this one true God (Allah) was speaking to him, and had chosen him to spread the true faith"
Tingnan nyo ha, sabi ni Hart na na-convince lang si Muhammad na Diyos ang kumakausap sa kanya.
Ang tanong ay ganito, papaano sya na-convince?
May maipapakita ba kayo ng talata sa libro nyo na nag usap ang Diyos at si Muhammad? At na-convince nga si Muhammad?
isa pa... ayon kay Hart
"Moreover, he is the author of the Moslem holy scriptures, the Koran, a collection of certain of Muhammad's insights that he believed had been directly revealed to him by Allah"
O kitams ayon kay Hart, paniniwala lang ni Muhammad na ang nilalaman ng Koran ay mula sa Diyos. Hindi din nya mapatunayan na mula nga sa Diyos ang Koran.
Maaari ngang napansin ni Hart ang inpluwensya ni muhammad pero di din nya napapatunayan na ang tinayong relihiyon ni muhammad ay mula sa Diyos.
Napansin nyo ba yan ha?
BALIK ISLAM:
ReplyDeleteNaku!!!! NagtatangaTangahan na naman! Demon este Cenon Bibe pala ang lamya naman ang depensa mo?! Eh ano po ba talaga ang NAKASAAD sa Deut. 18:18? Di po ba ganito?
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee,"
Na ang ibig lamang sabihin ng Talatang yan at ang tinutukoy dyan ay ang mga lahing Israel, Moses etc etc kong sino man ang mga nandyang mga ISRAELITEs ay mula sa angkan ni Abrahan yan at isang Israelita na Propeta at Pinili ng Dios (si Moses).
CENON BIBE:
OK, NASAAN DIYAN ang mga ANAK ni ISMAEL? MAY NAIPAKITA po ba ITONG BALIK ISLAM?
WALANG NAIPAKITA itong BALIK ISLAM kaya po NAGMURA-MURA na lang ULI.
NASOBRAHAN na naman po SIYA sa PAGTUWAD-TUWAD kaya NAGMUMURA NA NAMAN.
KAWAWA naman. NAGPAPAGOD nang SOBRA sa RELIHIYON na ALAM NIYA na HINDI ang DIYOS ang NAGTAYO.
SABI po NATIN:
ReplyDeleteKung MGA ANAK po ni ABRAHAM ang KAUSAP ay DAPAT KASAMA NILA ROON ang mga ISMAELITA.
PALAMURANG BALIK ISLAM:
Haahahahahahahaha! Ano? Hoy! MangMang kapanahonan na po ni Moses ito Demon este Cenon Bibe pala. ganon lamang ba kaliit yang UTAK mo para Unawain ang nakasulat sa Deut 18:18? Kawawa ka naman! Ang Tanga mo naman Talaga! huwag mo naman idisplay pa dito yang KatAngahan mo! nakakahiya na po eh!
CENON BIBE:
O, ANO po NGAYON kung KAPANAHUNAN ni MOISES? NASAAN ang MGA ANAK ni ISMAEL sa KINAUSAP DIYAN ng DIYOS?
WALA!
SOBRANG "LAKI" po ng UTAK nitong PALAMURANG BALIK ISLAM kaya PUNONG-PUNO ng PAGMUMURA ang ULO e.
SOBRANG "LAKI" rin po ng UTAK NIYA kaya KAHIT HINDI KASALI ang MGA ANAK ni ISMAEL sa TINUTUKOY ng DIYOS ay NAG-IILUSYON ang BALIK ISLAM na KASAMA SILA DOON.
BAGONG TUWAD po ITONG BALIK ISLAM na ITO kaya PURO PAGMUMURA na naman lang e.
SABI po NATIN:
ReplyDeleteAng kaso po ay WALA po ROON ang MGA ANAK ni ISMAEL.
PALAMURANG BALIK ISLAM:
So kapag wala na pala doon ay hindi na po pala kapatid ang turing nitong iniIdolo ninyong si Demon este Cenon Bibe pala! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! Kawawa naman po ano? Nagpupumilit pong isalba ang kanyang katangahan mula sa nasabing Talata ng Bibliya Deut. 18:18 Kawawa naman po!
CENON BIBE:
PATUNAYAN MO na KALAHI ni ISREAL ang mga ISMAELITA. YON ang GAWIN MO kesa MAGMURA KA.
IPAKITA mo na KASAMA sa mga ANAK ni ISRAEL ang MGA ISMAELITA. HUWAG MO ILABAS ang TUNAY na UGALI NINYONG MGA BALIK ISLAM.
ANO po? NAISALBA po ba NITONG PALAMURANG BALIK ISLAM ang MGA ISMAELITA?
MAHILIG LANG MANG-ANGKIN ng HINDI KANILA itong mga BALIK ISLAM na ito.
SIMPLE lang po IYAN.
Sabi sa Deut18:18, ang PROPETA ay MANGGAGALING sa PAMILYA ni ISRAEL. LAHI ni ISRAEL ang KAUSAP e.
Bakit PILIT na NAKIKISAWSAW ang PAMILYA ni ISMAEL e HINDI NAMAN SILA PAMILYA ni ISRAEL.
Ang DAHILAN nitong BALIK ISLAM e PAREHO raw ang "LOLO" nila.
Bakit po, KAY ABRAHAM BA SINABI na MULA sa MGA ANAK NIYA MANGGAGALING ang PROPETA?
HINDI po.
Ang SINABIHAN ay ang PAMILYA o LAHI ni ISRAEL. At HINDI NA KASAMA RIYAN ang LAHI ni ISMAEL.
SOBRA itong BALIK ISLAM na ito, PATI PARA LANG SA PAMILYA ni ISRAEL ay GUSTO NIYANG KAMKAMIN kahit HINDI NA SILA KASALI sa USAPAN.
KAWAWA naman po.
BALIK ISLAM:
ReplyDeleteBrod itong si Cenon Bibe ay sapul na sapul at Tumbok na Tumbok sa HULA ng Kanilang Bibliya! Mantakin nyo naman po hindi pa man nya NIKIKITA at NAKIKILALA si Michael Hart ay SINISIRAAN at PINAPARATANGAN nya na po kaagad ang Taong ito ng kong ano-ano!
CENON BIBE:
At ANO naman pong HULA ang NAKATUMBOK sa AKIN?
KAYO ang NAGYAYABANG na NANIWALA yang MICHAEL HART na IYAN sa PROPETA NINYO.
KUNG TOTOONG NANIWALA yang HART na YAN sa PROPETA NINYO ay BAKIT HINDI SIYA NAG-BALIK ISLAM? HA?
NAPAKASIMPLE po NIYAN.
MASAKIT lang TANGGAPIN na BINOLA LANG KAYO ng HART na IYAN.
Ang MAS MASAKIT ay NANIWALA NAMAN KAYO AGAD sa PAMBOBOLA sa INYO.
GANYAN KAYO KA-DESPERADO: Yung TALATA na HINDI KASAMA ang PROPETA NINYO ay PILIT NINYONG ISINISINGIT ang PROPETA NINYO.
Yun namang NAMBOLA LANG sa INYO ay BILIB na BILIB KAYO kahit KITANG-KITA na HINDI NAMAN TALAGA NANINIWALA sa INYO.
NAKAKAAWA po TALAGA KAYO.
BALIK ISLAM:
ReplyDeleteKailangan pa po bang mag Muslim ang isang Tao para Tanggapin at Paniniwalaan ang Mabuti at Makaktutohanang Gawa ng Propeta ng Islam?
CENON BIBE:
HINDI po ba KAILANGANG MAG-BALIK ISLAM ang NANINIWALA sa PROPETA NINYO?
E BAKIT PA KAYO NAG-BALIK ISLAM?
NILOLOKO naman NINYO KAMI e.
Sige nga po, TIGILAN na NINYO ang PANLOLOKO para MAY MAG-BALIK ISLAM dahil HINDI NAMAN PALA KAILANGANG MAG-BALIK ISLAM di po ba?
KAYO ang NATUTUMBOK sa SINABI ng BIBLIYA: Kayo ang NAGLILINGKOD LANG sa SALITA at HINDI SA GAWA.
SAPAT na sa INYO ang TULAD ni HART na PURO LANG SALITA nang PAPURI sa INYO kahit KITANG-KITA sa GAWA NIYA na HINDI SIYA NANINIWALA sa INYO.
MASAYA pa KAYO na BINOBOLA LANG KAYO ng HART?
KAWAWA naman po KAYO.
BALIK ISLAM:
ReplyDeleteKaya nga po Sapul na Sapul at Tumbok na Tumbok po talaga itong si Demon este Cenon Bibe na ito sa HULA/NAKASAAD ng kanilang Bibliya.
Matthew 7:1-2
1
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
CENON BIBE:
E DI HUSGAHAN NINYO AKO nang TULAD ng PAGHUSGA KO KANYO kay HART.
Sabi ko ANG PATUNAY na BINOBOLA LANG KAYO ni HART ay HINDI SIYA NAG-BALIK ISLAM.
Sa madaling salita ay HINDI NIYA PINATUNAYAN SA GAWA ang KANYANG mga SALITA.
Ngayon, PATUNAYAN NINYO na HINDI AKO UMANIB sa PINANINIWALAAN KO.
PATUNAYAN NINYO na HINDI KO TINATAPATAN ng GAWA ang AKING SALITA na KRISTIYANISMO ang NAG-IISANG RELIHIYON na ITINAYO ng DIYOS.
KAYA po ba NINYONG GAWIN IYAN?
SIGE po HIHINTAYIN KO ang PAGPAPATUNAY na GAGAWIN NINYO.
NAKAKAAWA lang KAYO dahil TIYAK na MAPAPAHIYA NA NAMAN KAYO e.
SABI po NATIN:
ReplyDeleteCenon Bibe;
C muhammad po ay NEVER KINILALA sa labas ng islam
Cno pong Kristyano ang kumilala kay muhammad. Kilala ko sya na propeta nyo. D namin sya propeta
BALIK ISLAM:
ito isang Tao na may UTAK di tulad mo... si Michael H. Hart
CENON BIBE:
SIGE nga po PATUNAYAN NINYONG NANIWALA nga si HART sa PROPETA NINYO.
Ang PATUNAY sa SALITA ay MAKIKITA sa GAWA.
IPAKITA at PATUNAYAN NINYO na NAG-BALIK ISLAM si HART bilang PATOTOO sa PANINIWALA NIYA sa PROPETA NINYO.
KUNG HINDI SIYA NAG-BALIK ISLAM e SORRY pero MALINAW na BINOLA LANG NIYA KAYO.
KAWAWA naman po KAYO.
BALIK ISLAM:
ReplyDeleteKong Muslim sya [Hart]?
well mabuti cguro sya ang tanongin mo tungkol dyan... di porket gumawa ang isang Tao ng makakabuti at katutohanan tungkol sa islam ay dapat na bang maging
Muslim sya?
He just RANK MUhammad as Number One as the Most Influential Persons in History and His Jesus rank only Number 3
base on His FAIR studies...
CENON BIBE:
O, NUMBER ONE po pala e. So, NAG-BALIK ISLAM po ba?
HINDI?
MALINAW na BINOLA LANG KAYO.
NAGPABOLA NAMAN KAYO.
KAWAWA naman po KAYO. NAPAKADALI NINYONG MABOLA.
BALIK ISLAM QUOTING STORYTELLER AHMED DEEDAT:
ReplyDeleteIn the Name of Allah, the Merciful, the Compassionate
"Resurrection or Resuscitation?"
In one of my books - "Who Moved the Stone?" I had promised to deal with the anomaly, where believers were reading simple English, yet were so conditioned that they were understanding exactly the opposite of what they were reading. The following story from real life will not only illustrate the point but will also elucidate our present case -
CENON BIBE:
THIS is ANOTHER ONE of DEEDAT'S TALLTALES or a FRUIT of HIS RICH IMAGINATION. Hehe
We have ALREADY PROVEN that DEEDAT is a VERY GOOD INVENTOR of LIES.
I'm SORRY if I AM FRANK.
PEOPLE like the BALIK ISLAM who DO NOT ACCEPT GOOD, SOUND REASONING should be DEALT WITH FRANKLY.
AHMED DEEDAT as QUOTED BY BALIK ISLAM:
ReplyDeleteI drew the Reverend's attention to the words - "(As was supposed)." I said: "Do you see that the words 'As was supposed' are written within brackets?" He said that he saw that. I asked him: "Why are the brackets there?" He acknowledged, "I don't know, but I could find out for you from some Bible scholars." I admired his humility. Though I knew that all Supervisors of Bible Houses in South Africa are retired reverends, it was possible that this aspect of Bible knowledge was beyond their sphere. I said: "If you do not know, then let me tell you what the brackets are doing there in this verse. You do not have to take the trouble of looking for a Bible scholar."
I explained that in the "most ancient" manuscripts of Luke, the words "As was supposed" are not there.
CENON BIBE:
HERE we again EXPOSE DEEDAT as a LIAR.
IT IS NOT TRUE that the WORDS "AS WAS SUPPOSED" IS NOT IN THE "MOST ANCIENT MANUSCRIPTS" of LUKE.
ONE of the OLDEST MANUSCRIPTS of LUKE is P75.
The TEXT of P75 is SIMILAR to that of CODEX VATICANUS and is USED as BASIS by the "Novum Testamentum Graece, Nestle-Aland 26th edition."
In the GREEK NEW TESTAMENT of NESTLE-ALAND, WE CAN READ in Lk 3:23:
"Καὶ αὐτὸς ἦν Ἰησοῦς ἀρχόμενος ὡσεὶ ἐτῶν τριάκοντα, ὢν υἱός, ὡς ἐνομίζετο, Ἰωσὴφ τοῦ Ἠλὶ"
TRANSLITERATED, the GREEK TEXT READS:
"Kai autoz hn Ihsouz aoxomenoz wsei etwn toiakonta, wn vioz, wz enomizeto, Iwshf tou Hli."
PLEASE TAKE NOTE of the WORDS "wz enomizeto."
THAT is the GREEK EQUIVALENT of the WORDS "AS WAS SUPPOSED" WHICH DEEDAT CLAIMS ARE NOT in the ANCIENT TEXT of LUKE 3:23.
As WE CAN SEE CLEARLY, the ANCIENT TEXT of P75 (as CITED by NESTLE-ALAND) CONTAINS the WORDS "AS WAS SUPPOSED," which PROVES that DEEDAT LIED when he SAID that IT WAS NOT in the ANCIENT MANUSCRIPTS.
WHAT DOES THAT PROVE about AHMED DEEDAT, the SCHOLAR of ISLAMIC REVERTS or BALIK ISLAM?
IT PROVES that DEEDAT is a LIAR and THAT HE WILL FOOL ANYONE WHO KNOWS LITTLE of BIBLE TEXTS.
In this case, HE WAS FOOLING one REV. ROBERTS, as he OPENLY ADMITS.
So, WHAT DOES THIS TELL US of the PRIMARY SOURCE of BALIK ISLAM MEMBERS?
IT PROVES to US that THEIR PRIMARY SOURCE is a LIAR, thus WE KNOW that ALL THAT THEY ARE TELLING US are LIES.
THAT SHOWS that ALL the TEXTS that THEY ARE COPY PASTING on this BLOG are FROM A LIAR.
Kaya po KUNG BINABASA NINYO ang mga KINA-COPY-PASTE DITO ng mga BALIK ISLAM ay BINABASA NINYO ang MGA SINULAT ng ISANG SINUNGALING at MANLOLOKO.
At KUNG NAPANIWALA KAYO ng mga KINA-COPY-PASTE DITO ng mga BALIK ISLAM ay NALOLOKO NA PO KAYO.
SORRY po pero IYAN ang SIMPLENG KATOTOHANAN.
SABI po NATIN:
ReplyDeleteMga balik islam po ang sumisira sa islam. Masasama ang ugali, palamura at mga manloloko kasi karamihan sa balik islam
Bakit po? Ako ba ang palamura at liar na naninira sa Biblia at sa Kristyano? Balik islam po gumagawa nyan
BALIK ISLAM:
Maling Paratang mo lamng yan! katulad din naman ng mga Paratang na Ginagawa mo sa isang Tao na hindi mo pa lubos kilala at hindi mo pa nakikita na si Michael Hart!
CENON BIBE:
MALI po ba?
MALI po ba ang SINASABI KO na PALAMURA ang mga BALIK ISLAM?
BASAHIN po NINYO ang mga POST ng mga KAPATID NINYO RITO. MAKIKITA NINYO kung GAANO KASAMA ang mga BUNGANGA NILA.
HINDI po ba SILA mga MANLOLOKO?
Katatapos ko pa lang pong ILANTAD at I-EXPOSE ang PAGSISINUNGALING ni AHMED DEEDAT DITO.
IYAN pong PAGSISINUNGALING ni AHMED DEEDAT ang GINAGAMIT ng mga BALIK ISLAM DITO.
Hindi po ba MALINAW na ang GINAGAMIT ng mga BALIK ISLAM ay mga PAGSISINUNGALING DIN?
At dahil PAGSISINUNGALING ang INILALAGAY ng mga BALIK ISLAM DITO, HINDI PO BA MALINAW na PANLOLOKO ang GINAGAWA NILA sa mga SUMUSUBAYBAY RITO?
Kayo MISMO ang NAGBANGGIT sa HART na IYAN.
NAPATUNAYAN po ba NINYO na TUNAY SIYANG NANIWALA sa PROPETA NINYO?
Hindi po ba ALAM na ALAM NINYO na HINDI NAG-BALIK ISLAM si HART?
IYAN po ay MALINAW na PATUNAY na HINDI TALAGA NANIWALA sa PROPETA NINYO ang HART na IYAN. Kung TOTOONG NANIWALA SIYA sa PROPETA NINYO ay DAPAT LANG na NAG-BALIK ISLAM na SIYA.
Ano ang TAWAG NINYO sa NAGSASABI na MASARAP ang LUTO NINYO tapos e AYAW NAMAN IYON KAININ?
Ano po ang TAWAG NINYO sa NAGSASABING BILIB SILA sa KANDIDATO NINYO pero AYAW NAMAN IYONG IBOTO o SUPORTAHAN?
MALINAW po na BINOBOLA LANG KAYO ng TAONG IYON.
SORRY po kung MASAKIT ang mga NASASABI KO. Pero ALAM ng mga SUMUSUBAYBAY RITO na HINDI NAKUKUHA sa MAAYOS at MAHINAHON na USAPAN ang mga BALIK ISLAM. KAILANGAN KAYONG PRANKAHIN at PAGSALITAAN ng MABIBIGAT na KATOTOHANAN.
Ang DASAL po NAMIN ay MAMULAT KAYO sa PAGSASALITA NAMIN sa INYO ng KATOTOHANAN at MAGBAGO KAYO ng ASAL.
NAPAKAPANGIT po KASI TALAGA ng UGALI ng mga BALIK ISLAM, lalo na yung mga NAKAKASALAMUHA NAMIN DITO.
CENON BIBE:
ReplyDeletePATUNAYAN MO na KALAHI ni ISREAL ang mga ISMAELITA. YON ang GAWIN MO kesa MAGMURA KA.
Muslim;
Hoy! obvious naman nagTatangaTangahan ka na naman! kong di ka ba naman Bobo ka na Demon este Cenon Bibe pala, alam mo ba ang Bibliya mo? ha? hindi ba nakasulat sa Bibliya mo na itong si Ismael at si Isaac ay magkapatid? Wala ba sa Bibliya mo ang ganon? ha? Itapon mo yang Bibliya mo kulang-kulang pala yan eh! Hoy Tangang Demon este Cenon Bibe pala! Magkapatid sila sa AMA pareho silang ANAK ni Abraham! IISA lamang ang kanilang AMA? Ang Tanga mo talaga! Kaya ka na naman siguro NagTataNgaTaNgaHan na naman dahil Sukol ka na naman sa KaMangMangan mong BobO ka!
CENON BIBE:
IPAKITA mo na KASAMA sa mga ANAK ni ISRAEL ang MGA ISMAELITA. HUWAG MO ILABAS ang TUNAY na UGALI NINYONG MGA BALIK ISLAM.
Muslim;
Ang nasabing Talata ay ukol sa mga Israelita o should I say kay Moses na isang Propeta... bakit Demon este Cenon? ang kasunod ba na Propetang lumitaw after Moses ay si Jesu-Kristo na? kaya nga natin sinusukat o inisa-isa ang pagkakahawig o pagkakapareho eh ayon sa nAkasaad ng Deut. 18:18 (I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee,) kaya may paghahambing tayong ginagawa para natin maikumpara! huwag mong pAiralin ang pagiging Tanga at BobO nyo dito demon este Cenon Bibe pala.
"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."
Arabs and Jews
If Ishmael and Isaac are the sons of the same father Abraham, then they are brothers. And so the children of the one are the BRETHREN of the children of the other. The children of Isaac are the Jews and the Children of Ishmael are the Arabs - so they are BRETHREN to one another. The Bible affirms, 'AND HE (ISHMAEL) SHALL DWELL IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.' (Genesis 16:12). 'AND HE (ISHMAEL) DIED IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.(Genesis 25:18). The children of Isaac are the brethren of the Ishmaelites. In like manner Muhummed is from among the brethren of the Israeli tes beause he was a descendant of Ishamel the son of Abraham. This exactly as the prophecy has it- 'FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN'.(Deut.18:18). There the prophecy distinctly mentions that the coming prophet who would be like Moses, must arise NOT from the 'children of Israel' or from 'among the mselves', but from among their brethren. MUHUMMED THEREFORE WAS FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN!
Nahihirapan ka bang unawain o tanggapin ang katotohanan hinggil sa na nakatala o nakasaad mula sa nasabing Talata? (Deut. 18:18) Eh kailan mo ba inuunawa ang iyong Bibliya? hindi ba hirap naman talaga kayong tangGapin ang Katotohan lalo na kapag mAsusukol na Kayo?! hehehehehe! eh ano ba ang pagkakaiba ng Deut 18:18 sa Matt 12:40 na hanggang ngayon hindi mo pa yata alam o tila nagTataNgaTangahan ka na lamang TalagA hinggil sa kong ilang ORAS talaga ang nakapaloob sa 3 Days & 3 Nights na malinaw na binanggit ni Kristo mula sa nakasaad ng nasabing talata! may bago pa ba sa style ng PagTangaTngahan mo Demon este Cenon pala?
ReplyDeleteBakit kaya di mo lawakan ang pang-uunawa mo sa iyong Bibliya hinggil sa Deut.18:18 at ganon din sa Matt 12:40 at sa hAlip ay tanungin mo na lamang ang sarili mo kong Papaano naging Dios si kristo mula sa talatang John 10:30. At kong papaano ka nagkAkaroon ng dios na Tinutuli, Napapagod, Natutulog, Nagugutom, Nauuhaw, at walang alam na ultimo sarili nyang pagbabalik ay hindi nya alam ito di po ba ang Dios ay syang pinanggagalingan ng lahat ng KaAlaman? at higgit sa lahat dios na Namamatay!?
Yang mga kAtanungang iyan ang itAnong mo sa iyong sarili! at Pagbulaybulyan mo na rin kong tutoong dios ba talaga yang Painaniniwalaan mo! Kasi papaano naging totoo ang dios mo kong sa Bibliya pa lamang na syang maging gabay ng Tao ay sumablay na?! Buong KatangAhan nyo pang ipinagmamalaki na nagkatawang Tao pa ang dios na kinikilala nyo! Para ano? bakit kailangang Magkatawang Tao pA ang kinikilala mong dios? Para iperfect ang Bibliya? Eh bakait naging Failure pa din pagdating sa Bibliya? bumaba na nga eh Sablay pa rin sa Bibiya?! hehehehehe! hindi kaya panahaon na para magising kayo sa katotohanan?
Yon lamang po at maraming salamat.
Cenon Bibe Jr. said...
ReplyDeleteSABI po NATIN:
Mga balik islam po ang sumisira sa islam. Masasama ang ugali, palamura at mga manloloko kasi karamihan sa balik islam
Bakit po? Ako ba ang palamura at liar na naninira sa Biblia at sa Kristyano? Balik islam po gumagawa nyan
Muslim;
Hehehehehehe! eh ano naman kaya ng maging tingin sayo ng mga nagbabasa ng blog na ito Demon este Cenmon Bibe pala kong ikaw na mismo ang sumusiraa ng Bibliya mo?! Dear Readers of this blog ito po ang katangahang Birit / Hirit ng wala sa sarili ngayon si Demon este Cenon Bibe pala, & I quote;
"Bakit po? Ako ba ang palamura at liar na naninira sa Biblia at sa Kristyano?"
Nakikita mo ba ang sarili mo Demon este Cenon Bibe pala kapag ginawa mo ang sinasbi mong paninira sa Bibliya at sa Kristyano? Nag-iisip ka pa ba sa mga sinasabi mong yan? hehehehehehe! kawawa naman po itong GunggonG na ito! Hindi na po nya alam pinagsAsabi nya!
Style mo talaga Demon este Cenon Bibe pala ang galing mo talagang manira ng tao magsaslita lang ang isang individual ng mabuti tungkol sa ISLAM itunuturing mo na kaaagad ito na KALABAN o KAaWAY kaya ayan pati si Mr. Michael Hart na nagsasabi lamang ng KATOTOHANAN at maganda tungkol sa Propeta ng ISLAM at ITINUTURING mo na rin syang KaaWAy hindi mo pa man sya Nakikilala at Nakikita ay Siniriraan mo na ito.
iTo po ang sabi nitong si Demon este Cenon Bibe pAla patungkol kay Mr. Michael Hart;
"Naniwala kay muhammad pero hindi nag-balik islam? Tila nambola lang yan. Sabi nga, the proof of the pudding is in the eating"
"Kung naniwala talaga c hart sa inyo e bat d sya umanib sa inyo? Malinaw na binola lang kayo. Kayo naman nagpabola agad."
Those Are the words from the Demon este Cenon pala.
Cenon Bibe;
Ang sabihin nyo nagalit mga kapatid nyo dahil napatunayan kong puro mali at paninira ang cnasabi nila laban sa Kristyano at sa Bible
Muslim;
Huwag mo ngang ilihis eh! Tigas ng ULO mo! NakakaUNAWA ka ba? may issue tayong pinag-UUSAPAN dito! si Hart ay isang Nuetral na Nananaliksik ng Katutohanan at ito ang katutohanang kanyang natuklasan ay kanyang iginawad sa kong kanino nararapat!
brod sino ka naman kong ikumpara kay Michael Hart na nagsasabi ng katutohan sa Propeta ng Islam! pwede ka bang ihambing kay Mr. Michael Hart?
Nagtatanong lamang po!
Cenon Bibe;
ReplyDeleteKelan po nag-balik islam yang genius na tinutukoy nyo? Bat d po nyo masagot?
Yang mga scientist na yan e kailangan ng pera para sa research nila. D kaya binola kayo nyan para makakuha ng pera sa mga arabo?
Bat hindi nag-balik islam yang Michael Hart kung totoong naniwala sya sa propeta nyo. D kaya niloko lang kayo nyan?
Naniwala kay muhammad pero hindi nag-balik islam? Tila nambola lang yan. Sabi nga, the proof of the pudding is in the eating
Kung naniwala talaga c hart sa inyo e bat d sya umanib sa inyo? Malinaw na binola lang kayo. Kayo naman nagpabola agad.
Muslim;
Kailangan pa po bang mag Muslim ang isang Tao para Tanggapin at Paniniwalaan ang Mabuti at Makaktutohanang Gawa ng Propeta ng Islam? So ayan po malinaw at tuwirang pinaratangan nitong si Demon este Cenon Bibe pala si Michael Hart na isang Mambobola daw! Tama po bang mangGagaling ang mga salitang ito sa isang nagpapakilala pa sa inyo na isang mabait at mabuti po daw na Katoliko o Kristyano? Kaya din naman siguro nababastos sya sa mga kablog nya rito mArahil na rin siguro sa di tuwid nyang paguugali. Kong si Michael Hart nga naman na hindi pa nga nya lubos na KILALA at NIKIKITA ay nakuha nya na pong SIRAAN, how much more doon sa mga kablog at katext nya na po mismo!? Kaya po hindi na po siguro tayo magtataka kong nababastus sya dito sa blog or sa text.
Kaya nga po Sapul na Sapul at Tumbok na Tumbok po talaga itong si Demon este Cenon Bibe pala na ito sa HULA/NAKASAAD ng kanilang Bibliya.
basa po tayo;
Matthew 7:1-2
1
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
Sa tingin nyo po nakaDesign po ba ang nasabing Talata kay Demon este Cenon Bibe pala? Oo po! hehehehehehe! akmang-akma nga po ang nasabing Talata sa kanyang mga KaDemonyohang gawa at paratang kay Mr. Hart! If not to most Catholics! parang isinukat po ang nasabing Talata kay Demon este Cenon Bibe pala! hehehehehehe!
Style mo talaga Demon este Cenon Bibe pala ang galing mo talagang manira ng tao magsasAlita lang ang isang individual ng mabuti tungkol sa Propeta ng ISLAM ay itunuturing mo na kaaagad ito na KALABAN o KAaWAY kaya ayan pati si Mr. Michael Hart na nagsasabi lamang ng KATOTOHANAN at Maganda tungkol sa Propeta ng ISLAM at ITINUTURING mo na rin syang KaaWAy hindi mo pa man sya Nakikilala at Nakikita ay Siniriraan mo na ito.
Ito po ba ang kagandahang Aral ng Katolisismo o Kristyanismo? Ang ipinapakitang ito po ba nitong si Demon este Cenon Bibe pala ay kaHanga-Hangang gawain para doon sa mga Taong mayroong pang Katinoan sa pag-iisip? Ito po bang ginagawang PaninirA nitong si Demon este Cenon Bibe pala laban kay Michael Hart na hindi pa man nya NAKIKITA at NAKIKILALA at talagang standard na gawain ng mga Katoliko tungo sa hindi nila kaanib?
nagtatanong lamang po!
HangGang sa muli po maraming salamat at unti-unting nakikilala na po natin ang tutoong kulay talaga nitong isang Demonyo na nagPakilala pang isang katoliko, na si Demon este Cenon Bibe pala!
PALAMURANG BALIK ISLAM:
ReplyDeleteKailangan pa po bang mag Muslim ang isang Tao para Tanggapin at Paniniwalaan ang Mabuti at Makaktutohanang Gawa ng Propeta ng Islam?
CENON BIBE:
NATURAL, DAPAT UMANIB. Ayon sa INYO e NANIWALA sa PROPETA MO E.
ANO ba ang SINASABI ng PROPETA MO? Hindi ba para UMANIB ang MAPAPANIWALA NIYA sa GRUPO NIYA?
Kaya ba NAGSALITA ang PROPETA MO e para lang MAGPA-CUTE sa mga tulad ni HART?
HUWAG MO NAMAN MALIITIN ang PROPETA MO.
Hindi ba KAYA NAGSALITA ang PROPETA MO e PARA MAY UMANIB sa GRUPO NIYA?
E HINDI UMANIB si HART. ANO ang IBIG SABIHIN NIYON? NANIWALA ba TALAGA yang GENIUS na BINABANGGIT MO o BINOBOLA LANG KAYO?
SANAY na SANAY KAYONG NILOLOKO ang SARILI NINYO. KAHIT HALATANG BINOBOLA NA LANG KAYO e TUWANG-TUWA na KAYO.
PALAMURANG BALIK ISLAM:
ReplyDeleteHoy! obvious naman nagTatangaTangahan ka na naman! kong di ka ba naman Bobo ka na Demon este Cenon Bibe pala, alam mo ba ang Bibliya mo? ha? hindi ba nakasulat sa Bibliya mo na itong si Ismael at si Isaac ay magkapatid?
CENON BIBE:
SI ISRAEL ang SINASABI KO.
ANAK BA ni ISRAEL yang ISMAEL MO? HA?
HINDI KA MAKASAGOT DAHIL ALAM MONG HINDI ANAK ni ISRAEL yang ISMAEL NA IYAN, DI BA?
WALANG PINAG-IBA YAN sa ALAM MONG HINDI DIYOS ang NAGTAYO sa INANIBAN MO pero NAGPAPAKAHIRAP KA PA RIN DIYAN.
SIGURO MASOKISTA KA o TRIP MO LANG na LOKOHIN ang SARILI MO. Nasa sa iyo yan.
Pero HUWAG MONG IPAGPILITAN ang MALI.
PATUNAYAN MO na LAHAT ng MGA ANAK ni ABRAHAM ang TINUTUKOY sa Deut18:18.
HINDI MO MAPATUNAYAN DI BA? KAYA NGA LUMALABAS NA NAMAN ang TUNAY MONG UGALI e.
HETO PA, ITINURING BANG ANAK si ISMAEL?
KUNG ITINURING NA ANAK e BAKIT HINDI TUMANGGAP ng KAHIT NA ANONG MANA MULA kay ABRAHAM?
SIGE NGA.
KUNG ITINURING na ANAK si ISMAEL e BAKIT SI ISAAC ang IPINAKILALA ng DIYOS bilang NAG-IISANG ANAK ni ABRAHAM.
O, NASA BIBLIYA YAN na PAULIT-ULIT MONG BINABANGGIT.
Eto ha, sabi sa Genesis 22:2
Then God said, "Take your son, YOUR ONLY SON, ISAAC, whom you love, and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains I will tell you about."
O AYAN PO. NANINIWALA KA BA sa BIBLIYA na LAGI MONG GINAGAMIT kung AKALA MO e PABOR SA IYO? HA?
Paki ABANGAN po at TATALAKAYIN pa NATIN kung PAANO HINDI KINILALANG ANAK itong ISMAEL ng BALIK ISLAM.
Diyan po ay IPAKIKITA NATIN na HINDI KAANAK ng mga ISRAELITA si ISMAEL kahit pa GALING DIN SIYA kay ABRAHAM.
SALAMAT PO.
SABI PO NATIN:
ReplyDeleteIPAKITA mo na KASAMA sa mga ANAK ni ISRAEL ang MGA ISMAELITA. HUWAG MO ILABAS ang TUNAY na UGALI NINYONG MGA BALIK ISLAM.
PALAMURANG BALIK ISLAM:
Ang nasabing Talata ay ukol sa mga Israelita o should I say kay Moses na isang Propeta...
CENON BIBE:
ANO po ang SABI nitong PALAMURANG BALIK ISLAM? "Ang nasabing Talata ay ukol sa mga Israelita..."?
UKOL pala sa MGA ISRAELITA e. E di AMINADO KA at MALINAW sa IYO NA HINDI KASAMA ang LOLO ISMAEL MO DIYAN. Hehehe
KITANG-KITA po nitong BALIK ISLAM ang KATOTOHANAN pero PILIT pa rin NIYANG NILOLOKO ang SARILI NIYA e.
KAWAWA NAMAN.
Nag-BALIK ISLAM para lang MALOKO NIYA ang SARILI NIYA.
BALIK ISLAM na LUMULOKO sa KANYANG SARILI:"
ReplyDeleteNahihirapan ka bang unawain o tanggapin ang katotohanan hinggil sa na nakatala o nakasaad mula sa nasabing Talata? (Deut. 18:18)
CENON BIBE:
IKAW LANG naman ang HINDI MAKAUNAWA kahit NAKITA MO NA ang KATOTOHANAN e.
IKAW na MISMO ang NAGSABI na UKOL SA MGA ISRAELITA ang Deut18:18 tapos PILIT MONG ISINISINGIT PA ang LOLO ISMAEL MO.
May kasabihan tayo: MAHIRAP GISINGIN ang NAGTUTULOG-TULUGAN.
GANYAN KAYONG mga BALIK ISLAM: PILIT pa rin KAYONG NAGTUTULOG-TULUGAN KAHIT GISING NA GISING NA KAYO sa KATOTOHANAN.
BALIK ISLAM na LUMULOKO sa KANYANG SARILI:
ReplyDeleteEh kailan mo ba inuunawa ang iyong Bibliya? hindi ba hirap naman talaga kayong tangGapin ang Katotohan lalo na kapag mAsusukol na Kayo?! hehehehehe! eh ano ba ang pagkakaiba ng Deut 18:18 sa Matt 12:40
CENON BIBE:
BALIK na naman po sa MT12:40 na HINDI NILA MASABI KUNG PAANO NAGING TIME FACTOR ang ORAS. hehehe
IYAN PO ang BALIK ISLAM. PILIT pang NILOLOKO ang SARILI kahit NASAGOT NA NANG PAULIT-ULIT ang ISYU sa Mt12:40.
PILIT pa ring NILOLOKO ang SARILI kahit HINDI NA NGA MAKASAGOT at HINDI MAKATUTOL sa mga PALIWANAG ng KRISTIYANO ukol sa 3 DAYS and 3 NIGHTS.
KAWAWA po talaga itong mga BALIK ISLAM na ITO.
PALAMURANG BALIK ISLAM:
ReplyDeleteHehehehehehe! eh ano naman kaya ng maging tingin sayo ng mga nagbabasa ng blog na ito Demon este Cenmon Bibe pala kong ikaw na mismo ang sumusiraa ng Bibliya mo?! Dear Readers of this blog ito po ang katangahang Birit / Hirit ng wala sa sarili ngayon si Demon este Cenon Bibe pala, & I quote;
CENON BIBE:
Ang MGA MAMBABASA NA ang BAHALANG HUMUSGA sa AKIN.
Ang MALINAW e MARAMI ang NAMULAT NA at HINDI NA NINYO MALOLOKO gamit ang mga PANINIRA at PAGSISINUNGALING NINYO laban sa BIBLE at sa MGA KRISTIYANO.
MARAMI na ang NAKAIWAS sa IMPIERNO.
PURIHIN si KRISTO! PURIHIN ang DIYOS!
SABI PO NATIN:
ReplyDeleteCenon Bibe;
Ang sabihin nyo nagalit mga kapatid nyo dahil napatunayan kong puro mali at paninira ang cnasabi nila laban sa Kristyano at sa Bible
NAPAHIYANG BALIK ISLAM:
Huwag mo ngang ilihis eh! Tigas ng ULO mo! NakakaUNAWA ka ba?
CENON BIBE:
SORRY po pero NAPAHIYA nang HUSTO ang BALIK ISLAM dahil NAILANTAD NATIN ang MGA PANINIRA NILA sa BIBLIYA at sa ATING MGA KRISTIYANO.
Tingnan po NINYO, NAGALIT nung NATUMBOK ang PAGSISINUNGALING NILA.
CENON BIBE:
ReplyDeleteAng MGA MAMBABASA NA ang BAHALANG HUMUSGA sa AKIN.
anonymous said:
ITO ANG HUSGA KO: TAMA SI BRO CENON! BULOK ANG BALIK-ISLAM. HEHEHE
ako rin ... pareho tayo bro ng husga!!!!
ReplyDeleteKailangan pa ba i-memorize yan?Ok na ako sa isang asawa dito sa lupa at gusto ko pagnasa kabilang buhay na ako ay magpasalamat at magpuri sa totoong Dios ng mga Katoliko..
ReplyDeleteAyaw ko ng 72 virgins..Mala satanas kung mang akit ang mga muslim ng kapanalig eh hhehehe..
God bless Bro Cenon!!!
Ang hatol ko, tumpak ka!!!
Muslim;
ReplyDeleteKailangan pa po bang mag Muslim ang isang Tao para Tanggapin at Paniniwalaan ang Mabuti at Makaktutohanang Gawa ng Propeta ng Islam?
CENON BIBE:
NATURAL, DAPAT UMANIB. Ayon sa INYO e NANIWALA sa PROPETA MO E.
Muslim;
Ganon? kawawa ka naman Demon este Cenon Bibe pala. Ang gusto mo bang ipa-abot sa sinasabi mong yan eh kahit na magsasalita pa ng KATOTOHANAN ang inyong Sto Papa o di kay isng Pari hinggil sa isang bagay base sa kanyang pag-aaral at mga patunay na ipinakita ay hindi ito maaaring kaTangGap TangGap ng Karamihan na labas sa Katolisismo dahil ang nasaabing Pag-aaral ay Gawa ng isang Leder ng Katoliko? gAnyan ba ang ibig mong ipa-abot dito Demon este Cenon Bibe pala? ASaan ka ba nag-aaral at nagtatapus Demon este Cenon pala! Wala ka bang sariling Utak o Pag-iisip para timbangin ang mga bagay-bagay? ang TangGapin ang nasabing usapin batay sa iyong sariling pAghahatol na walang pinapanigan kundi ang katutohanan lamang?! mahirap po bang gawin ang mga bagay na ito sa isang Katoliko na katulad mo? Kasi ang isang Taong Matino kahit ano pA man ang kanyang paniniwala ay pwede namang Gumamit ng Utak upang tingnan husgahan ang mga bagay-bagay Kanino pa man manggagaling ito! Sana ganon mo tiningnan ang pag-aaraal na ginawa ni Michael Hart! Ang hatol na iginawad ni Michael Hart sa Propeta ng Islam at kay Christo ay batay sa kanyang masusing Pag-aaral at pananaliksik! eh ikaw kaya mo bang gawin ang mga ganyang bagay pwede ka bang magbigay ng hindi bias na paghahatol! Sa tingin ko hindi mo kayang gawin ang mga bagay na yon!
CENON BIBE:
ReplyDeleteNATURAL, DAPAT UMANIB. Ayon sa INYO e NANIWALA sa PROPETA MO E.
ANO ba ang SINASABI ng PROPETA MO? Hindi ba para UMANIB ang MAPAPANIWALA NIYA sa GRUPO NIYA?
Kaya ba NAGSALITA ang PROPETA MO e para lang MAGPA-CUTE sa mga tulad ni HART?
HUWAG MO NAMAN MALIITIN ang PROPETA MO.
Hindi ba KAYA NAGSALITA ang PROPETA MO e PARA MAY UMANIB sa GRUPO NIYA?
Muslim;
Para po sa KaTaNgHang pinagSasabi nitong si Demon este Cenon Bibe pala ngayon; This Time po hindi po ang Mismong Bible nya ang SuSungalNgal sa KaTangahAng Pinagsasabi nya ngayon kundi ang Qur'an po ang SusuPalpaL ng KamangMangan nya pong piangsasabi ngayon!
ito po basa Q 2:256
"There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Tâghût[] and believes in Allâh, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allâh is All-Hearer, All-Knower."
O yan po ang sinasabi ng Qur'an laban sa mga Kasinungalingan at KataNgahang Pinagsasabi nitong MangMang na si Demon este Cenon Bibe pala.
CENON BIBE:
ReplyDeleteBALIK na naman po sa MT12:40 na HINDI NILA MASABI KUNG PAANO NAGING TIME FACTOR ang ORAS. hehehe
Muslim;
Let The Bible Speak!
Matt 12:
38
Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
39
But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
40
For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jonah 1:17
".... And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights."
CENON BIBE:
IYAN PO ang BALIK ISLAM. PILIT pang NILOLOKO ang SARILI kahit NASAGOT NA NANG PAULIT-ULIT ang ISYU sa Mt12:40.
PILIT pa ring NILOLOKO ang SARILI kahit HINDI NA NGA MAKASAGOT at HINDI MAKATUTOL sa mga PALIWANAG ng KRISTIYANO ukol sa 3 DAYS and 3 NIGHTS.
Muslim;
Ang naging tanong lang naman dyan na hindi matugonan op masagot nitong si Demon este Cenon Bibe pala ay kong ilang ORAS ang nakapaloob sa sinasabi o sa binanggit ni Kristo na 3 Days and 3 Nights ng Matt 12:40 Bakit Demon este Cenon Bibe pala wala po bang tamAng ORAS na nakapaloob sa 3 Days & 3 Nights na sinasabi ni Kristo? Bakit hindi mo msgot ang napkadaling bagay na ito?! ang 3 Days & 3 Nights ba na binagGit ni Kristo sa Matt 12:40 ay walang ORAS na nakapaloob, kaya hindi ito alam nitong si Demon este Cenon Bibe pala? ganon po ba?
Muhummed (PBUH) the Greatest
ReplyDeleteTo every Muslim on this planet, irrespective of cultural, geographical and political differences, Muhummed (PBUH), is Allah's greatest creation and was sent as a mercy for all mankind. A thousand million Muslims however, do not require any surveys, lists or research to arrive at this conclusion. It is a non-negotiable article of faith that Muhummed (PBUH) is the greatest.
BUT WHAT OF THE NON-MUSLIMS?
Surprisingly, over the centuries many an eminent non-Muslim has rated Muhummed (PBUH) most highly and given due recognition to his greatness. A selection of their quotations appear on page?* 10 and 11.
Michael H. Hart, a Christian American, astronomer, mathematician, lawyer, chessmaster and scientist, after extensive research, published an incisive biography of the 100 most influential people of all time. The biographical rankings with explanations describes the careers of religious and political leaders, inventors, writers, philosophers, scientists and artists.
From this research, which included illustrious personalities such as Jesus Christ, Moses, Caesar, the Wright brothers, Napoleon, Shakespeare, Columbus and Michelangelo; Michael Hart rated Muhummed (PBUH), as number one. He concluded the biography with the words "It is this unparalleled combination of secular and religious influence which I feel entitles Muhummed to be considered the most influential single figure in human history."
By special arrangement, we are privileged to present to sou the entire chapter on Muhummed (PBUH) from Michael Hart's "The 100". We have also included a summary of the Holy Prophet's (PBUH) farewell sermon delivered at Mount Arafat in the 10th year after Hijra (632 CE).
In an era when the world was awash in rivers of blind prejudices and nonsensical ignorance's, the Prophets (PBUH) divine message and glorious teachings became the purging torrents of spiritual enlightenment. The farewell sermon is an embodiment of the dynamics of Islam.
May Allah Muhummed (PBUH), his family, his companions and all the believers. Insha-Allah!
3. JESUS CHRIST
ReplyDeletec. 6 B.C. - c. 30 A.D.
The impact of Jesus on human history is so obvious and so enormous that few people would question his placement near the top of this list. Indeed, the more likely question is why Jesus, who is the inspiration for the most influential religion in history, has not been placed first.
There is no question that Christianity, over the course of time, has had far more adherents than any other religion. However, it is not the relative influence of different religions that is being estimated in this book, but rather the relative influence of individual men. Christianity, unlike Islam, was not founded by a single person but by two people—Jesus and St. Paul—and the principal credit for its development must therefore be apportioned between those two figures.
Jesus formulated the basic ethical ideas of Christianity, as well as its basic spiritual outlook and its main ideas concerning human conduct. Christian theology, however, was shaped principally by the work of St. Paul. Jesus presented a spiritual message; Paul added to that the worship of Christ. Furthermore, St. Paul was the author of a considerable portion of the New Testament, and was the main proselytizing force for Christianity during the first century.
Jesus was still fairly young when he died (unlike Buddha or Muhammad), and he left behind a limited number of disciples. At the time of Jesus' death, his followers simply formed a small Jewish sect. It was due in considerable measure to Paul's writings, and to his tireless proselytizing efforts, that this small sect was transformed into a dynamic and much greater movement, which reached non-Jews as well as Jews, and which eventually grew into one of the great religions of the world.
For these reasons, some people even contend that it is Paul, rather than Jesus, who should really be considered the founder of Christianity. Carried to its logical conclusion, that argument would lead one to place Paul higher on this list than Jesus! However, although it is not clear what Christianity would be like without the influence of St. Paul, it is quite apparent that without Jesus, Christianity would not exist at all.
However, it does not seem reasonable to consider Jesus responsible for all the things which Christian churches or individual Christians later did in his name, particularly since he would obviously disapprove of many of those things. Some of them—for example the religious wars between various Christian sects, and the barbaric massacres and persecutions of the Jews-are in such obvious contradiction to the attitudes and teachings of Jesus that it seems entirely unreasonable to say that Jesus inspired them.
Similarly, even though modern science first arose in the Christian nations of western Europe, it seems inappropriate to think of Jesus as responsible for the rise of science. Certainly, none of the early Christians interpreted the teachings of Jesus as a call for scientific investigation of the physical world. Indeed, the conversion of the Roman world to Christianity was accompanied and followed by a drastic decline in both the general level of technology and the general degree of interest in science.
That science did eventually arise in Europe is indeed an indication that there was something in the European cultural heritage that was favourable to the scientific way of thinking. That something, however, was not the sayings of Jesus, but rather Greek rationalism, as typified by the works of Aristotle and Euclid. It is noteworthy that modern science developed, not during the heyday of church power and of Christian piety, but rather on the heels of the Renaissance, a period during which Europe experienced a renewal of interest in its pre-Christian heritage.
The story of Jesus' life, as it is related in the New Testament, is familiar to most readers and will not be repeated here. However, a few points are worth noting. In the first place, most of the information that we have about Jesus' life is uncertain. We are not even sure what his original name was. Most probably it was the common Jewish name, Yehoshua (Joshua in English). The year of his birth, too, is uncertain, although 6 B.C. is a likely date. Even the year of his death, which must have been well known to his followers, is not definitely known today. Jesus himself left no writings behind, and virtually all our information concerning his life comes from the accounts in the New Testament.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, the Gospels contradict each other on various points. For example, Matthew and Luke give completely different versions of Jesus' last words; both of these versions, incidentally, are direct quotations from the Old Testament.
It was no accident that Jesus was able to quote from the Old Testament; though the progenitor of Christianity, he was himself a devout Jew. It has been frequently pointed out that Jesus was in many ways very similar to the Hebrew prophets of the Old Testament, and was deeply influenced by them. Like the prophets, Jesus had an extraordinarily impressive personality, which made a deep and lasting impression on the people who met him. He was charismatic in the deepest and fullest sense of the word.
However, in sharp contrast to Muhammad, who exercised political as well as religious authority, Jesus had virtually no influence on political developments during his own lifetime, or during the succeeding century. (Both men, of course, have had in enormous indirect influence on long-term political developments.) Jesus made his influence felt entirely as an ethical and spiritual leader.
If it was primarily as an ethical leader that Jesus left his mark, it is surely pertinent to ask to what extent his ethical ideas have influenced the world. One of Jesus' central precepts, certainly, was the Golden Rule. Today, the Golden Rule is accepted by most people, Christians and non-Christians alike, as a reasonable guide to moral conduct. We may not always act in accordance with it, but we usually try to do so. If Jesus had actually originated that almost universally accepted principle, he would surely have been the first man on this list.
In fact, though, the Golden Rule was an accepted precept of Judaism long before Jesus was born. Rabbi Hillel, the leading Jewish rabbi of the first century B.C., explicitly enunciated the Golden Rule and pronounced it the foremost principle of Judaism. Nor was the notion known only to the Western world. The Chinese philosopher Confucius had proposed it in about 500 B.C.., and the saying also appears in the Mahabharata, an ancient Hindu poem. In fact, the philosophy behind the Golden Rule is accepted by almost every major religious group.
ReplyDeleteDoes this mean that Jesus had no original ethical ideas? Not at all! A highly distinctive viewpoint is presented in Matthew 5:43-44:
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shall love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you. Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.
And a few lines earlier: "...resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on the right cheek, turn to him the other also."
Now, these ideas—which were not a part of the Judaism of Jesus' day, nor of most other religions—are surely among the most remarkable and original ethical ideas ever presented. If they were widely followed, I would have had no hesitation in placing Jesus first in this book.
But the truth is that they are not widely followed. In fact, they are not even generally accepted. Most Christians consider the injunction to "Love your enemy" as—at most—an ideal which might be realized in some perfect world, but one which is not a reasonable guide to conduct in the actual world we live in. We do not normally practice it, do not expect others to practice it, and do not teach our children to practice it. Jesus' most distinctive teaching, therefore, remains an intriguing but basically untried suggestion.
The non-Muslim verdict on Muhummed (PBUH)
ReplyDelete"lf a man like Muhammed were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world, he would succeed in solving its problems that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness."
George Bernard Shaw
"People like Pasteur and Salk are leaders in the first sense. People like Gandhi and Confucius, on one hand, and Alexander, Caesar and Hitler on the other, are leaders in the second and perhaps the third sense. Jesus and Buddha belong in the third category alone. Perhaps the greatest leader of all times was Mohammed, who combined all three functions. To a lesser degree, Moses did the same."
Professor Jules Masserman
"Head of the State as well as the Church, lie was Caesar and Pope in one, but, he was Pope without the Pope's pretensions, and Caesar without the legions of Caesar, without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a police force, without a fixed revenue. ft ever a man had the right to say that he ruled by a right divine, it was Muhummed. for he had all the powers without their supports. He cared not tor the dressings of power. The simplicity of his private life was in keeping with his public life.""
Rev. R. Bosworth-Smith
"Muhammad was the soul of kindness, and his influence was felt and never forgotten by those around him."
Diwan Chand Sharma, The Prophets of the East, Calcutta 1935, p. 122.
"Four year after the death of Justinian, A.D. 569, was born at Mecca, in Arabia the man who, of all men exercised the greatest influence upon the human race . . . Mohammed . . . "
John William Draper, M.D., L.L.D., A History of the Intellectual Development of Europe, London 1875, Vol. 1, pp 329-330.
"In little more than a year he was actually the spiritual, nominal and temporal ruler of Medina, with his hands on the lever that was to shake the world."
John Austin, "Muhammad the Prophet of Allah," in T.P's and Cassel's Weekly for 24th September 1927.
"Philosopher, Orator, Apostle, Legislator. Warrior, Conqueror of ideas, Restorer of rational beliefs, of a cult without images; the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammed. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?"
Lamartine, Historic de la Turquie, Paris 1854, Vol. 11 pp. 276-2727.
"It is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great prophet of Arabia, who knows how he taught and how he live,. to feel anything but reverence for that mighty Prophet, one of the great messengers of the Supreme. And although in what I put to you I shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet I myself feel whenever I re-read them, a new way of admiration, a new of reverence for that mighty Arabian teacher."
Annie Besant, The Life and Teachings of Muhammad, Madras 1932, p.4
"Muhummed is the most successful of all Prophets and religious personalities."
Encyclopaedia Britannica
"I have studied him — the wonderful man — and in my opinion far from being an anti-Christ he must be called the saviour of humanity."
George Bernard Shaw in "The Genuine Islam"
"By a fortune absolutely unique in history , Mohammed is a threefold founder of a nation, of an empire, and of a religion."
Rev. R. Bosworth-Smith in "Mohammed and Mohammedanism 1946."
The LINK...
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THE GOD THAT NEVER WAS
ReplyDeleteIslam is the only religion which teaches the existence of a PERFECT God. A
perfect God means that there is no sharer in His Nature and His Attributes:
"Say: He is God, the One and Only; God, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth
not, nor is He begotten; and there is none like unto Him." (Holy Qur'an,
112:1-4)
There has appeared a man in Benoni. He is not qualified in theology, but is
fondly cherishing the self-delusion that he is an apostle of Christ,
appointed by God to convert Muslims to Christianity. Because he is a lawyer
by profession, he is adept at juggling with words and quoting the Holy Qur'an
totally out of context without knowing a word of Arabic. He wants Muslims to
believe that Jesus was also a God, a belief that is abhorrent to us, because
it is an antithesis of the Absolute perfection of Allah Subhaanahoo Wa Ta
'Aala!
Thus intent upon reversing the process of Truth, which is: "And say: The
Truth has come and falsehood vanished. Surely falsehood is ever bound to
vanish." (Qur'an, 17:81). In this he will never succeed because the process
of Truth is irreversible.
TWO REASONS
He has given two reasons to prove that Jesus is God, viz: (i) "When we say
Jesus is deity (or even God for that matter), we do not make him the Father!
He is one with the Father and therefore HE SHARES HIS NATURE", and (ii) "HE
IS IN EVERY WAY LIKE THE FATHER but he is not the Father".
In short, according to him, Jesus is God because He SHARES THE NATURE OF GOD,
and HE IS IN EVERY WAY LIKE GOD. These two reasons given by him to prove the
divinity of Jesus are so puerile that they speak volumes of his legal
training.
Numerous quotations from the Bible are given below to prove that Jesus
ReplyDeleteneither SHARED THE NATURE OF GOD, nor is he IN EVERY WAY LIKE GOD. He can,
therefore, NEVER be GOD. We have given the quotations from the Bible without
comment, because the Bible speaks for itself! TO SAY THAT JESUS IS GOD OR SON
OF GOD IS NOT ONLY A MOCKERY OF GODHOOD, BUT BLASPHEMY OF THE LOWEST ORDER
AND AND INSULT TO THE INTELLIGENCE OF MEN! (Note: Unless otherwise stated,
all quotations from the Bible are given from the Authorized Version. In our
headings and subheadings we have referred to Jesus as "God" in inverted
commas in order to show the ABSURDITY of the claim of this man that Jesus is
God!)
THE BIRTH OF "GOD"
"God" was created from the seed of David: "Concerning his Son Jesus Christ
our Lord, which was made of the SEED of David according to the flesh."
(Romans, 1:3)
"God" was the fruit of the loins of David: "Therefore being a prophet, and
knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his
loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his
throne." (Acts, 2:30)
The Ancestors of "God": "The generations of Jesus Christ, the son of David,
the son of Abraham." (Matthew, 1:1)
The Sex of "God": "And when eight days were accomplished for the
circumcising of the child, his name was called Jesus." (Luke, 2:21)
How Mary Conceived and Delivered "God". Mary conceived Jesus like any other
woman: "The days were accomplished that she should be delivered," (Luke,
2:6) which means that she went through all the normal stages of pregnancy.
Nor was her delivery any different from other expectant mothers: "And she
being with child cried, travelling in birth, and pained to be delivered."
(Revelation, 12:2)
"God" Sucked The Paps of a Woman: "And it came to pass, as he spake these
things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto
him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast
sucked." (Luke, 11:27)
The Country of Origin of "God": "Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in
the days of Herod the king. (Matthew, 2:1)
The Occupation of "God": "Jesus was a carpenter by trade." (Mark, 6:3),
"and the son of a carpenter." (Matthew, 13:55)
The Transport of "God": "Behold, thy king cometh unto thee, meek, and
sitting upon an ass." (Matthew, 21:5) "And Jesus, when he had found a young
ass, sat thereon." (John, 12:14)
The Wining and Dining of "God": "The Son of man came eating and drinking,
and they say, behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of
publicans and sinners." (Matthew, 11:9; Luke, 7:34)
The Poverty of "God": "And Jesus saith unto him, the foxes have holes, and
the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his
head." (Matthew, 8:20)
The Meagre Possessions of "God": "Shoes of Jesus" (Luke, 3:16), "Garments
and coat of Jesus" (John, 19:23)
"God" Was a Devout Jew: "And in the morning, rising up a great while before
day, he went out, and departed into a solitary place, and there prayed."
(Mark, 1:35)
"God" Was a Loyal Subject: Jesus was a good citizen, he was loyal to Caesar.
He said: "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and
unto God the things that are God's." (Matthew, 22:21) He paid his tax
regularly. (Matthew, 17:24-27)
THE FAMILY OF "GOD"
ReplyDelete"God" Was the Son of Joseph: "Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him,
we have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write,
Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph" (John, 1:45)
Brothers and Brothers-in-law of "God": "And when he was come into his own
country, he taught them in their
synagogue, insomuch that they were astonished, and said, whence hath this man
this wisdom, and these mighty works? Is not this the carpenter's son? Is
not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and
Simon, and Judas? And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence hath
this man all these things? (Matthew, 13:54-56)
THE DEVELOPMENT OF "GOD"
Spiritual Development of "God": "And the child grew, and waxed strong in
spirit, filled with wisdom." (Luke, 2:40)
Mental, Physical and Moral Development of "God": "And Jesus increased in
wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man." (Luke, 2:52)
"God" Was 12 Years Old When His Parents Took Him to Jerusalem: "Now his
parents went to Jerusalem every year at the feast of the passover. And when
he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the
feast." (Luke, 2:41-42)
The Powerless "God" (Jesus) said: "I can of mine own self do nothing."
(John, 5:30)
"God" Was Ignorant of the Time. Jesus said: "But of that day and that hour
knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but
the Father." (Mark, 13:32)
"God" Was Ignorant of the Season: "And on the morrow, when they were come
from Bethany, he (Jesus) was hungry: and seeing a fig tree afar off having
leaves, he came, if haply he might find anything thereon: and when
he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not
yet." (Mark, 11:12-13)
"God" Was Unlettered: "Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into
the temple, and taught. And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man
letters, having never learned?" (John, 7:14-15)
"God" Learnt Through Experience: "Learned he obedience by the things which
he sufered." (Hebrews, 5:8)
THE TEMPTING OF "GOD"
ReplyDeleteThe Devil Tempted "God" For 40 Days: "And immediately the spirit driveth him
into the wilderness. And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted
of Satan." (Mark, 1:12-13)
The Devil Tempted "God" Continuously: "And when the devil had ended all the
temptation, he departed from him for a season." (Luke, 4:13)
Like the Sinners, "God" Was Tempted In All Things: "But (he) was in all
points tempted like as we are, yet without sin." (Hebrews, 4:15)
True God Cannot be Tempted With Evil: "God cannot be tempted with evil,
neither tempteth he any man." (James,
1:13)
Only The Ungodly Are Tempted With Evil: "But every man is tempted, when he
is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed." (James, 1:14)
THE MISSION OF "GOD"
The Confession and Repentance of "God": before the beginning of his public
ministry: "Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist" (Matthew, 3:13), "which
signified the confession of sins" (Matthew, 3:6), "and repentance from sins
(Matthew, 3:11).
"God" Did Not Come to Save the Sinners: "And when he was alone, they that
were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable. And he said unto
them, unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but
unto them that without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing
they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not
understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should
be forgiven them." (Mark, 4:10-12)
THE RACIAL "GOD"
"God" Was a Tribal Jew: "The lion of the tribe of Juda." (Revelation, 5:5)
"God" Came For The Jews Only: "But he answered and said, I am not sent but
unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matthew, 15:24)
Racial Discrimination of "God": "These twelve Jesus sent forth, and
commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any
city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the
house of Israel." (Matthew, 10:5-6)
According to "God", The Gentiles Are Dogs: "It is not meet to take the
children's bread, and to cast it to dogs." (matthew, 15:26)
The Kingdom of "God": And he (Jesus) shall reign over THE HOUSE OF JACOB for
ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end." (Luke, 1:33)
The Titles of "God": "The king of the Jews" (Matthew, 2:2), "The king of
Israel" (John, 1:49; 12:13)
A "GOD" UNLIKE THE GOD
ReplyDeleteA Hungry "God": "And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was
afterward an hungered." (Matthew 4:2), "Now in the morning as he returned
into the city, he hungered." (Matthew, 21:18), "and on the
morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry." (Mark, 11:12)
A Thirsty "God": "(He) saith, I thirst." (John, 19:28)
A Sleepy "God": "He was asleep." (Matthew, 8:24), "He fell asleep" (Luke,
8:23), "And he was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow."
(Mark, 4:38)
A Weary "God": Jesus therefore, being wearied with his journey, sat thus on
the well." (John, 4:6)
A Groaning "God": "He groaned in the spirit, and was troubled." (John,
11:33), "Jesus therefore again groaning in himself cometh to the grave."
(John, 11:38)
A Weeping "God": "Jesus wept." (John, 11:35)
A Sorrowing "God": "And (he) began to be sorrowful and very heavy." (Matthew
26:37). "Then saith he unto them, my soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto
death." (Matthew, 26:38)
A Hysterical "God": "And (he) began to be soreamazed and to be very heavy."
(Mark, 14:33)
A Weak "God": "And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven,
strengthening him." (Luke, 22:43)
THE WARRING "GOD"
The Strong-Arm Method of "God": "And he went into the temple, and began to
cast out them that sold therein, and them that bought." (Luke, 19:45). "And
the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem, and found in
the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of
money sitting: and when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them
all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the
changers' money, and overthrew the tables." (John, 2:13-15)
The "God" of War: Jesus said: "Think not that I am come to send peace on
earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." (Matthew, 10:34)
The Sabre-Rattling "God": Jesus said: "And he that hath no sword, let him
sell his garment, and buy one." (Luke, 22:36)
The "GOD" ON THE RUN
ReplyDelete"God" Was Panic-Stricken: "After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for
he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him." (John, 7:1)
"God" Walked in Fear of the Jews: "Then from that day forth they took
counsel together for to put him to death. Jesus therefore walked no more
openly among the Jews." (John, 11:53-54)
"God" Has Shown a Clean Pair of Heels: "Therefore they sought again to take
him: but he escaped out of their hand." (John, 10:39)
"God" Fled in Disguise: "Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus
hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and
so passed by." (John, 8:59)
THE CAPTURE OF "GOD"
A Friend Betrayed the Secret Hiding Place of "God": "And Judas also, which
betrayed him, knew the place: for Jesus off-times resorted thither with his
disciples. Judas then, having received a band of man and officers from the
chief priests and Pharisees, cometh thither with lanterns and torches and
weapons." (John, 18:2-3)
"God" Was Arrested, Bound and Led Away: "Then the band and the captain and
officers of the Jews took Jesus, and bound him, and led him away." (John,
18:12-13)
"God" Was Humiliated: "And the men that held Jesus mocked him, and smote
him. And when they had blindfolded him, they struck him on the face."
(Luke, 22:63-64). "Then did they spit in his face, and buffeted him; and
others smote him with the palms of their hands." (Matthew, 26:67)
"God" Was Defenseless: "One of the officers which stood by struck Jesus with
the palm of his hand", he said: "Why smitest thou me?" (John, 18:22-23)
"God" Was Condemned to Death: "And they all condemned him to be guilty of
death." (Mark, 14:64). "They answered and said, he is guilty of death."
(Matthew, 26:66)
The Dumb and Docile "God": "He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like
a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth." (Acts, 8:32)
THE SUPPOSED END OF "GOD"
ReplyDeleteThe Dying "God": "And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost."
(Mark, 15:37)
The "God" That Was Supposed Dead and Defunct: "Christ died." (Romans, 5:6).
"He was dead". (John, 19:33)
The Supposed Corpse of "God": "he (Joseph of Arimathaea) went to Pilate, and
begged the body of Jesus. Then Pilate commanded the body to be delivered."
(Matthew, 27:58)
The Shroud of "God": "And when Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a
clean linen cloth." (Matthew, 27:59)
The Orbituary of The Late And Lamented "God": "Now when the centurion saw
what was done, he glorified God, saying, certainly this was a righteous man."
(Luke, 23:47)
EPILOGUE
According to this self-appointed apostle of Christ, Jesus is God because: (i)
"HE SHARED THE NATURE OF GOD", and (ii) because "IN EVERY WAY HE IS LIKE
GOD". But according to the quotations of the Bible given above, we find that
Jesus did neither SHARE THE NATURE OF GOD nor is he IN EVERY WAY LIKE GOD.
He is, therefore, definitely NOT God! The onus to prove that Jesus is God
now rests with this Christian. Either he must prove that Jesus is God, or he
must admit that he is a polytheist, i.e., a believer in more than one God.
WITH ALL THE TRICKS AND VERBAL LEGERDEMAIN OF HIS PROFESSION, HE WILL NEVER
BE ABLE TO PROVE THAT JESUS IS GOD!!
He and his fellow-preachers in Christ, will never succeed in convincing the
Muslims that Jesus was anything other than a natural man and a prophet of
God, sent unto the house of Israel to bear the good news of the coming of the
KINGDOM OF GOD, which prophecy was fulfilled with the advent of the Holy
Prophet Muhammed (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wa Sallam)!
WHAT WAS THE SIGN OF JONAH?
ReplyDelete"CHRIST" NOT A NAME
Over a thousand million Christians today blindly accept that Jesus of Nazareth is the Christ. They produce "a thousand and one" prophecies from the Jewish Bible (the Old Testament) to prove their claim that Jesus was the Messiah promised to the Jews. Let us hold the thousand" prophecies in abeyance for a moment and examine the only unequivocal claim made by Jesus in the Gospels and examine whether he fulfilled his promise to the Jews.
We must admit that the word CHRIST is not a name. It is a title. It is a translation of the Hebrew word Messiah, meaning "anointed." The Greek word for "anointed" is Christos from which we get the word Christ.
Priests and kings were "anointed" when being consecrated to their office. The Holy Bible confers this title even on a heathen king CYRUS (Isaiah 45:1).
We are reminded in the Gospel of St.Luke that "WHEN EIGHT DAYS WERE ACCOMPLISHED FOR THE CIRCUMCISING OF THE CHILD, HIS NAME WAS CALLED JESUS, WHICH WAS SO NAMED OF THE ANGEL BEFORE HE WAS CONCEIVED IN THE WOMB." (Luke 2:21). The name that was given to Mary for her yet unborn son was JESUS and NOT Christ. It was only after his baptism at the hands of John the Baptist that he, Jesus, claimed to be the Christ. The Jews were not the ones to accept his claim on its face value. They wanted proof!
MIRACLE AS PROOF
Matthew records that the learned men among the Jews - the Scribes and Pharisees - came to Jesus and asked, "MASTER, WE WOULD SEE A SIGN FROM THEE". (Matthew 12:38). What they really wanted was some "magic trick," some "sleight of hand" like producing a rabbit out of a hat or walking on the water or flying in the air or trodding on burning coal. This is the type of "sign" or MIRACLE they were looking for. The Jews mistook him for a sorcerer, a wizard, a charlatan.
NO "SIGN" BUT ONE
With righteous indignation Jesus replies: "AN EVIL AND ADULTEROUS GENERATION SEEKETH AFTER A SIGN; AND THERE SHALL NO SIGN (no miracle) BE GIVEN TO IT, BUT THE SIGN (miracle) OF THE PROPHET JONAS: FOR AS JONAS WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE WHALE'S BELLY; SO SHALL THE SON OF MAN BE THREE DAYS AND THREE NIGHTS IN THE HEART OF THE EARTH." Matthew 12:39-40). Jesus says, "NO SIGN." He does not refer the Jews to blind Bartimeus whose sight he had restored. He does not speak about the "woman with issues" who was healed by merely touching him; or about the 2000 pigs he had destroyed to heal "a man possessed;" or the 5000 and the 3000 people he had fed and satiated with a few pieces of fish and a few pieces of bread. "No sign," says Jesus, BUT ONE! - "THE SIGN OF THE PROPHET JONAS!" He is putting all his "eggs" in one basket. His claim to being the Messiah (Christ) stands or falls the ONLY "sign" he was prepared to give.
Did Jesus fulfill the only sign he gave? Christendom answers with a unanimous Y-E-S! without heeding the Biblical advice - 'not to take things for granted.' - but "PROVE ALL THINGS!" (1 Thessalonians 5:21)
JONAH FLEES HIS CALL
ReplyDeleteWhat was the "sign" (miracle) of Jonah? We have to go to the "Book of Jonah" in the Old Testament to find out. God commanded Jonah to go to Nineveh and warn the Ninevites to repent from their "evil ways, and from the violence that is in their hands." (Jonah 3:8) But Jonah was loath to go as a warner unto the Ninevites, so he goes to Joppa instead of Ninevah, and takes a boat to run away from the Lord's command.
While at sea, there was a terrible tempest. According to the superstition of the mariners, a person fleeing from his Master's command creates such a turmoil at sea. They began to enquire among themselves and said, "COME, AND LET US CAST LOTS, (like the tossing of a coin, "head" or "tail") THAT WE MAY KNOW FOR WHOSE CAUSE THIS EVIL IS UPON US. SO THEY CAST LOTS, AND THE LOT FELL UPON JONAH." (Jonah 1:7). Though here was a temporary lapse on the part of Jonah in fulfilling his mission, he manfully and most outrageously volunteers: "AND HE SAID UNTO THEM TAKE ME UP, AND CAST ME FORTH INTO THE SEA; SO SHALL THE SEA BE CALM UNTO YOU: FOR I KNOW THAT FOR MY SAKE THIS GREAT TEMPEST IS UPON YOU." (Jonah 1:12)
DEAD OR ALIVE?
Since Jonah was selflessly offering himself as a "vicarious" sacrifice there was no need for strangling him before throwing him into the sea, no need to spear him or break his arm or limb. In his own words: "TAKE ME UP AND CAST ME FORTH." The question now arises, that when the shipmaster and the crew threw him overboard, was Jonah dead or alive? Any Christian child who has attended Sunday School will give an immediate reply: "ALIVE!" The storm subsides. Was this perhaps a coincidence? A fish swallows Jonah. Was he dead or alive when swallowed? The answer again is "ALIVE" Was he dead or alive when "JONAH PRAYED UNTO THE LORD HIS GOD OUT OF THE FISH'S BELLY?" (Jonah 2:1)
Surely dead men don't cry and don't pray! The answer again is "ALIVE" For three days and three nights the fish takes him around the ocean: dead or alive? "ALIVE!" is the answer. On the third day it vomits him on the seashore: dead or alive? A-L-I-V-E, of course! What had Jesus prophesied about himself? He said: "AS JONAH WAS ..... SO SHALL THE SON OF MAN BE" LIKE JONAH. And how was Jonah? Was he dead or alive for three days and three nights? Alive! ALIVE! ALIVE! is the unanimous answer from the Jew, the Christian and the Muslim!
UNLIKE JONAH
ReplyDeleteIf Jonah was alive for three days and three nights, then Jesus also ought to have been alive in the tomb as he himself had foretold! But Christianity hangs on the flimsy thread of the death" of Jesus for its salvation. So it has to answer that Jesus was DEAD for three days and three nights. The contradiction between his utterance and its fulfilment is obvious. Jonah ALIVE, Jesus DEAD! Very UNLIKE Jonah! Jesus had said "LIKE Jonah" not UNLIKE Jonah. If this is true then according to his own test Jesus is not the TRUE Messiah of the Jews. If the Gospel record is genuine then how can we blame the Jews for rejecting "CHRIST".
THREE AND THREE = 72 HOURS?
The Doctor of Divinity and the Professor of Theology replies that in Matthew 12:40 under discussion, the emphasis is on the TIME factor - "as Jonas was THREE days and THREE nights in the belly of the whale, so shall the son of man be THREE days and THREE nights in the heart of the earth." "Please note," says the learned theologian, "that the word "THREE" is repeated F-O-U-R times in this verse to prove that Jesus was going to fulfil the prophecy as regards the length of time he was going to remain in the tomb, and NOT 'As Jonas was' in relation to his being alive or dead. If it is the time factor that Jesus was stressing then let us ask whether he fulfilled that aspect of his promise to the Jews as well. The Christian dogmatist answers: "OF COURSE!"
PUBLIC HOLIDAY
The question arises: when was Christ crucified? The whole Christian world answers: "FRIDAY!" Is this the reason we celebrate "Good Friday" - as a Public Holiday in every Christian nation from America to Zambia, from Abyssinia to Zaire at Easter? What makes Good Friday" so good? "it is the death of Christ on the Cross on this day to wash off our sins," says the Christians. So he was killed on the cross on a Friday, 19xx years ago? "YES!" says the Christians. From the Gospel records we gather that the Jews were in a hurry to eliminate Jesus. Hence the midnight trial, and then dispatching him off to Pilate in the morning; from Pilate to Herod and then back again to Pilate. The vested interests were afraid of the general public. Jesus was their hero. He had been their benefactor. His enemies had to do away with him quickly, and succeeded in doing so. However, as much as they were in a hurry to hang him on the cross, they were in equal hurry to bring him down from the cross before sunset on Friday because of the Sabbath. The Sabbath starts at about 6 p.m. on Friday and the Jews were warned in Deuteronomy 21:23 that the victim of crucifixion was an "accursed of God" and was not to be permitted to remain hanging on the Sabbath day, "that thy land be not defiled which the Lord thy God giveth thee for an inheritance."
To satisfy the religious scruples of the Scribes and Pharisees the "secret disciples" of Jesus took down the body from the cross. They gave the body the Jewish burial-bath, plastered it with "one hundred pounds weight of aaloes and myrrh" (John 19:39), then placed the shrouded body into the sepulcher before night-fall.
WHY "SUPPOSED"?
ReplyDeleteThere are numerous differences between the various sects and denominations of Christianity, but on the above they are unanimous. Jesus is SUPPOSED to be in the tomb on the night of Friday. He is still SUPPOSED to be in the tomb on the day of Saturday. He is still SUPPOSED to be in the tomb on the night of Saturday. Christians agree whole-heartedly with this. It will be noted that I have repeated the word 'SUPPOSED' three times. The reason is that the Gospels are silent as to when exactly Jesus came out of the tomb. He could have been taken away on Friday night by his "secret disciples" to a more congenial and restful place, but I have no right to assume about what the Gospel writers are silent. I have, therefore, repeated the word 'SUPPOSED' three times.
In the final analysis, let us see whether Jesus was THREE days and THREE nights in the tomb:-
EASTER WEEK
IN THE SEPULCHER
DAYS
NIGHTS
FRIDAY - placed in tomb just before sunset
- nil -
One night
SATURDAY - supposed to be in tomb
One day
One night
SUNDAY - missing before sunrise
- nil -
- nil -
TOTAL
One Day
Two Nights
You will no doubt note that the GRAND TOTAL is ONE day and TWO nights, and NOT three days and three nights. According to the Christian Scriptures Jesus had failed a SECOND time. FIRST he was unlike Jonah, who was ALIVE in the belly of the fish, which is the exact opposite of what the Christians claim had happened to their master Jesus, who was DEAD for the same period of time as Jonah was - ALIVE.
SECONDLY, we discover that he also failed to fulfill the TIME FACTOR as well. The greatest mathematician in Christendom will fail to obtain the desired result - THREE days and THREE nights. We must not forget that the Gospels are explicit in telling us that it was "before sunrise" on Sunday morning (the FIRST day of the week), that Mary Magdalene went to the tomb of Jesus and found it empty.
"GOOD" WEDNESDAY
The Armstrong family has debunked the whole Christian world. They seem to know their arithmetic! Mr Robert Fahey of the "Plain Truth" magazine, delivered a lecture recently at the "Holiday Inn,' Durban, where I was present. Mr Fahey attempted to prove to his Christian audience that Jesus Christ was crucified on a Wednesday and not on Friday, as is supposed by Orthodox Christianity for the past two thousand years. According to him if one counts backwards from Sunday morning deducting 3 DAYS and 3 NIGHTS, one ought to get WEDNESDAY as the answer.
I congratulated Mr Fahey for his ingenuity. I asked him, how was it possible for the past two thousand years the whole Christian world celebrated GOOD FRIDAY instead of GOOD WEDNESDAY. Thus the 1,200,000,000 Christians of the world today are ignorant of the correct day of the so called crucifixion! It means that even the Roman Catholic Church – which claims an unbroken chain of Popes from Peter to this day - according to Mr Fahey are mislead.
GOD OR THE DEVIL?
The question arises, who deceived the millions of Christians for the past TWO THOUSAND years. GOD or the DEVIL? Mr Fahey categorically answered: "THE DEVIL!" "If the devil," I said, "can succeed in confusing the Christians in the most elementary things of their Faith, whether to celebrate a Good Friday or a Good Wednesday, then how much easier for him to mislead Christians in other things concerning God?" Mr Fahey blushed and walked away.
If this is the belief of the trend-setters of the Christian Faith in the world today, may we not then ask: is this not the mightiest hoax in history?
MUSLIM:
ReplyDeleteBakit Demon este Cenon Bibe pala wala po bang tamAng ORAS na nakapaloob sa 3 Days & 3 Nights na sinasabi ni Kristo? Bakit hindi mo msgot ang napkadaling bagay na ito?!
MANNY CRUZ:
1. Eto na naman po sila. Ang PAULIT-ULIT na walang kwentang tanong. NAGUGULUHAN talaga ang mga Balik-Islam sa usapin na ito. Isang bagay lang naman ang dahilan. Ito ay ang tinatawag na FAILURE TO GRASP THE FUNCTION OF ANALOGY.
2. Mukhang hindi talaga nila maintindihan na ang WASTONG PAG-UNAWA sa dalawang PAGHAHAMBING ay ang PAG-UGNAY sa kanilang PAGKAKATULAD at hindi ang PAGHIWALAY ng kanilang PAGKAKAIBA! Ang mga Balik-Islam ay TUMUTUTOK sa PAGKAKAIBA ng dalawang LARANGAN (Jonah at Jesus) kaya NATURAL PAPALPAK talaga ang magiging interpretasyon nila.(Naipaliwanag na natin ang puntong iyan, pero tila pilit lang nilang NILILITO ang mg kokote nila.)
3. Isa pa hindi naman ORAS ang pinag-uusapan sa nasabing analogy eh. In fact, WALA ngang ORAS na nabanggit eh. Kaya nga nagtataka tayo kung bakit doon sila tumitingin sa ORAS at kinalimutan na nila ang ARAW at ang ACTUAL na nangyari sa buhay ni Jesus!
4. At lalong nakalimutan ng mga balik-islam ang ang nangyari kay Jonah ay SIGN lamang na tumutokoy sa nagyari sa buhay ni Jesus! Natural, ang SIGN ay iba kaysa realidad na kanyang sinisimbolo, pero merong ilang aspeto na magkakatugma sila (otherwise hindi na SIGN IYAN.)
5. Ini-interpret ang SIGN base sa kung ano ang kanyang sinisimbolong realidad. Kapag binaligtad yan at ini-interpret na ang realidad base sa sign, e magkakagulo na po ang unawa natin.
6. Ganyan na ganyan po ang ginawa ng mga balik-islam kaya nagkawendang wendang ang unawa nila. Sakit ng utak nila: FAILURE TO GRASP THE FUNCTION OF ANALOGY.
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ReplyDeleteDisciples Not Eye Witnesses
ReplyDelete"You see, sir, the disciples of Jesus were not eye-witnesses or ear-witnesses to the actual happenings of the previous three days, as vouched for by St. Mark who says that at the most critical juncture in the life of Jesus: "they all forsook him and fled." (Mark 14:50). All the knowledge of the disciples regarding their Master was from hearsay. They had heard that their master was hanged on the Cross; they had heard that he had given up the Ghost; they had heard that he was dead and buried for three days. If one is confronted by a person with such a reputation then the conclusion is inescapable; they must be seeing a ghost. Little wonder these ten brave men were petrified."
"To disabuse their minds from the fear that gripped them, Jesus reasoned with them. He said: 'Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself' To put it in colloquial English, this is how he told them: 'What is wrong with you fellows, can't you see that I am the same person - who walked and talked with you, broke bread with you - flesh and blood in all respects.'
Why do doubts enter your minds? 'Handle me and see, for a spirit has no flesh and bones as you see me have.' (Luke 24:39). In other words he is telling them: 'If I have flesh and bones, then I am not a ghost, not a spook and not a spirit!'" "Is that right?" I asked. "Yes," he replied. I continued that, Jesus is telling them, as recorded in this verse, in basic English, that what the disciples were asked to "handle and see" was not a translated body, not a metamorphosed body and not a resurrected body, because a resurrected body is a spiritualised body. He is telling them in the clearest language humanly possible that he is not what they were thinking. They were thinking that he was a spirit, a resurrected body, one having been brought back from the dead. He is most emphatic that he is not!"
"Jesus debunked their false notion of the resurrection, by saying that at the resurrection: 'neither shall they die any more' (Luke 20:36) meaning that the resurrected persons will be Immortalised. They will not be subject to death any more, no more hanger or thirst, no more fatigue. In short, all the instruments of death will be powerless against the resurrected body. Jesus continues to explain: 'for they (the resurrected bodies) are equal unto the angles,' that is, that they will be Angelised - spiritualised, that they will become spirit-creatures, i.e. Spirits;'and the children of God, for such are the children of the resurrection." (Luke 20:36).
Jesus Not Spiritualised
I was taken off from the theme I was expounding two paragraphs above by the Reverend with the challenge: "But how can you be so sure..?" To continue from where I had deviated above - He is Not what they were thinking, that he was not a Spirit, not a Ghost, not a Spook. To assure them further after having offered his hands and feet for inspection and verification that his was a material, physical body, and that all their bewilderment and disbelief was unjustified, he asked his disciples: "Have you here any meat?" (Meaning something to eat). "And they gave him a piece of broiled fish and of a honeycomb, and he took it, and did eat before them." (Luke 24:41-43)
A Drama?
ReplyDeleteWhat was Jesus trying to prove by all his demonstrations of wanting his hands and feet to be handled and chewing and masticating broiled fish and honeycomb? Was all this a pretense, make-belief, an act or drama? "No!" Said Schleliermacher in 1819, a hundred years before I was born. Albert Schweizer records him saying: "If Christ had only eaten to show that he could eat, while he really had no need of nourishment, if would have been a pretense, something docetic."( In Quest of the Historical Jesus, page 64).
I had not know of Schleliermacher and other Christian scholars who over a hundred years ago doubted the death of Jesus on the cross as recorded by Albert Schweizer, when I was discussing this subject with the head of the Bible Society.
No Resurrection
"What is wrong with you (Christian) folk?" Jesus is telling you in the most unambiguous language that he is not a spirit - not spiritualised, not a resurrected person, and yet the whole Christian world believes that he was resurrected, i.e. spiritualised. Who is lying, you or him? How is it possible that you, each and every Christian, are reading your Bible in your own mother tongue and yet each and every groups is made to understand the exact opposite of what they are reading? If you read the Bible, say, in Hebrew, and pleaded that you did not understand what you were reading, I can appreciate this fact. If you read it in Greek and pleaded that you did not really understand the implications of what was written; I can appreciate this fact also. But the anomaly is that you are reading the Book, each and every one, in his own mother tongue, and are trained to understand the opposite of what is written. How have you been brainwashed, or rather, how have you been "Programmed," as the Americans would put it?
"Please tell me as to who is lying? Is it Jesus or a thousand million Christians of the world? Jesus says: "No!" to his being resurrected, and all of you say: "Yes!" Whom are we Muslims to believe, Jesus or his so called disciples? We Muslims would rather believe the Master. Did he not say: "The disciple is not greater than the Master."? (Matthew 10:24)
This was more than the Reverend had bargained for. He politely excused himself by saying that as he had to get ready to close his office, he would look forward to meeting me again. This was sheer evasive politeness!
With the Bible Society, I won the debate but lost the discount! No more discount for me from the Bible Society. But let my loss be your gain. If you dear reader, can remove a few cobwebs from your thinking on the subject of the Crucifixion, I will be amply rewarded.
Now here are the verses discussed put together :
"..Jesus himself stood in their midst, and said unto them, Peace be unto you...But they were terrified, and supposing that they were seeing a spirit... And he said unto them,.. 'Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me and see; for a spirit has no flesh and bones, as you see me have'... And showed them his hands and feet... And while they yet believed not for joy and wondered, he said unto them, 'Have ye here any meat?'.. And they gave him a piece of broiled fish, and of a honeycomb... And he took it, and did eat before them." (Luke 24:36-43)
MANNY CRUZ:
ReplyDelete1. Eto na naman po sila. At PAULIT-ULIT na naman tayong ilalampaso sa talatang iyan! maawa naman kayo! Oo inaamin n po namin na hindi po talaga namin alam ang mga sinasabi ng aming Bibliya! Tama na po napapahiya na po ang mga Katoliko eh...
Muslim;
hehehehehehehehe! brod Tama na nga naman! nakakahiya na po eh! kawawa naman sila! lalo na yong nagpapakilala pang isang Bible expert na wla naman ding alam sa Bibliya! Tama na po brod parang awa mo na! hahahahahahahaha!
MANNY CRUZ:
ReplyDeleteGanyan na ganyan po ang ginawa ng mga balik-islam kaya nagkawendang wendang ang unawa nila. Sakit ng utak nila: FAILURE TO GRASP THE FUNCTION OF ANALOGY.
Muslim;
Hahahahahaha! FUNCTION OF ANALOGY? bakit di mo kaya ituro kay Kristo yang FUNCTION OF ANALOGY mong nalalaman! hahahahahahaha!
Anonymous said...
ReplyDelete"MANNY CRUZ:
1. Eto na naman po sila. At PAULIT-ULIT na naman tayong ilalampaso sa talatang iyan! maawa naman kayo! Oo inaamin n po namin na hindi po talaga namin alam ang mga sinasabi ng aming Bibliya! Tama na po napapahiya na po ang mga Katoliko eh..."
MANNY CRUZ:
1. Alam na ng lahat na BASTOS at SINUNGALING ka Mr Bulok-Islam.
2. Tingnan nyo po mga kaibigan, sarili niyang mga salita inilagay nya sa ilalim ng pangalan ko. HAHAHAHA!!! How creative naman! Anyway, totoo naman yung sinabi nya e, NAHIYA nga lang siyang AMININ na sa kanya (kanino pa nga ba?)LUMALAPAT ang sarili nyang mga salita kaya gumamit na lang ng ibang pangalan! hehehehe. Obvious ba?
3. Ganyan ka na ba ka desperado Mr Cheap Shot Bulok-Islam? Kahit NAPAKABABANG URI ng PANLILINLANG ay KINAKAGAT nyo na dahil di kayo makapalag habang NALALANTAD ang KAWALANGHIYAANG PAMBABASTOS ninyo? Ang sabihin mo, WALANG LAMAN yang UTAK mo kaya di ka na MAKATUTOL! Ganoon ba? Ganyan ba ang ITINURO ng PROPETA nyong MANYAKIS HA? Kawawa talaga kayo.
ANG SABI KO PO:
ReplyDeleteGanyan na ganyan po ang ginawa ng mga balik-islam kaya nagkawendang wendang ang unawa nila. Sakit ng utak nila: FAILURE TO GRASP THE FUNCTION OF ANALOGY.
SAGOT NG BULOK-ISLAM:
Hahahahahaha! FUNCTION OF ANALOGY? bakit di mo kaya ituro kay Kristo yang FUNCTION OF ANALOGY mong nalalaman! hahahahahahaha!
MANNY CRUZ:
Ang sabihin mo, WALA KANG SAGOT! DI KA MAKATUTOL kaya NAGDALDAL ka na lang, gaya ng dati, hehehehe. Sanay na kami sa istilong bulok mo Mr Bulok-Islam!! Nabilang mo na ba kung ilang beses ka nang nasupalpal sa usaping ito, ha Mr Bulok-Islam? hahahahaha! Joker ka talaga! Corny nga lang heheheheh!
Muslim;
ReplyDeletehehehehehehehehe! brod Tama na nga naman! nakakahiya na po eh! kawawa naman sila! lalo na yong nagpapakilala pang isang Bible expert na wla naman ding alam sa Bibliya! Tama na po brod parang awa mo na! hahahahahahahaha!
MANNY CRUZ:
1. Ayun!!! SARILING SALITA niya mismo ang LUMALAPAT sa kanya! Na naman. Umamin din na NAPAHIYA na siya at NAGMAMAKAAWA na lang! hahahahah! Kaya nyo pa ba ha Mr Bulok-Islam? Sabihin mo lang!
2. Mga kaibigan, di po ba itong mga Bulok-Islam na ito ang pumupustura na mga BIBLE EXPERT dito? Sila nga itong quote nang quote ng Bible eh, tapos akusa ng akusa na di daw natin naunawaan ang bible natin? O di natumbok din niya ang sarili niya bilang pumupusturang Bible Expert! HAHAHAHA! Patawa ka pa Bulok-Islam!
3. Kung sa AWA lang e NAAAWA naman talaga kami sa inyo Mr Bulok-Islam. Pero Ikaw yata hindi naaawa sa sarili mo na palagi mo na lang niloloko eh. Tsk tsk tsk.
Puro copy-paste na lang ba? Nakakasawa na 'yang ahmed deedat na 'yan eh wala na bang bago? Patay na 'yang argumento na 'yan eh pati nga author patay na. Ngayon magkasama na sila ni propeta pedhopile muhammad n'ya sa kabilang buhay 'di magkandaugaga sa mga virgins nila heheheh... Ahmed deedat bulok!
ReplyDeletemr. cenon, kung may sagot kayo ihiwalay nyo na lang ng topic sa itaas. kasi ang istilo nitong bugok na islam eh mag copy-paste ng pagkarame-rame para tamarin na ang mambabasa... wala naman kasing mga kwenta mga nilalagay nya eh kahit s'ya hindi nya naiintindihan kasi english... eh alam naman nating bobo itong bugok na islam eh pagpasensyahan na lang po natin. salamat.
ReplyDeleteMANNY CRUZ said...
ReplyDeleteANG SABI KO PO:
Ganyan na ganyan po ang ginawa ng mga balik-islam kaya nagkawendang wendang ang unawa nila. Sakit ng utak nila: FAILURE TO GRASP THE FUNCTION OF ANALOGY.
Muslim;
AnG Sabi nitong si MangMang kara Crus este Manny Cruz pala ay "FAILURE TO GRASP THE FUNCTION OF ANALOGY." eh kong pagkumparahin kaya natin ang kaMangMangan mong paniniwala at sinasabi hingGil sa Resurrection at ang mismong sinasabi ni Kristo na malinaw na nakasulat sa Bibliy hinggil dito?!
Disciples Not Eye Witnesses
"they all forsook him and fled." (Mark 14:50). All the knowledge of the disciples regarding their Master was from hearsay.
A Drama
Luke 24:37
"But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit."
Luke 24:39
"Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have."
Luke 20:36
"Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection."
The Only Spiritualised That EAT broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
Luke 24:
34
Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.
35
And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.
36
And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37
But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38
And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40
And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
41
And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42
And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43
And he took it, and did eat before them.
Now ngayon MangMang Kara Crus este Manny Cruz pala Jesus Eat broiled fish, and of an honeycomb before them his disciples! Para ano? para magpasikat lang? Is not Jesus proving something to His doubtful disciples that He Jesus is ALIVE! ALIVE! ALIVE! and that He is not a Resurrected or Spiritualised body as you FOOLISHLY think that He is!? did you really understand this SIMPLE analogy of Jesus?! Sa tingin mo kaya nauunawaan mo ang Bibliya ayon sa dapat o you simply understood your Bible the total opposite meaning of what Jesus want to tell you?!
No Resurrection
"What is wrong with you (Christian) folk?" Jesus is telling you in the most unambiguous language that he is not a spirit - not spiritualised, not a resurrected person, and yet the whole Christian world believes that he was resurrected, i.e. spiritualised. Who is lying, you or him? How is it possible that you, each and every Christian, are reading your Bible in your own mother tongue and yet each and every groups is made to understand the exact opposite of what they are reading? If you read the Bible, say, in Hebrew, and pleaded that you did not understand what you were reading, I can appreciate this fact. If you read it in Greek and pleaded that you did not really understand the implications of what was written; I can appreciate this fact also. But the anomaly is that you are reading the Book, each and every one, in his own mother tongue, and are trained to understand the opposite of what is written. How have you been brainwashed, or rather, how have you been "Programmed," as the Americans would put it?
"Please tell me as to who is lying? Is it Jesus or a thousand million Christians of the world? Jesus says: "No!" to his being resurrected, and all of you say: "Yes!" Whom are we Muslims to believe, Jesus or his so called disciples? We Muslims would rather believe the Master. Did he not say: "The disciple is not greater than the Master."? (Matthew 10:24)
MANNY CRUZ said...
ReplyDeleteANG SABI KO PO:
Ganyan na ganyan po ang ginawa ng mga balik-islam kaya nagkawendang wendang ang unawa nila. Sakit ng utak nila: FAILURE TO GRASP THE FUNCTION OF ANALOGY.
SAGOT NG BULOK ISLAM:
AnG Sabi nitong si MangMang kara Crus este Manny Cruz pala ay "FAILURE TO GRASP THE FUNCTION OF ANALOGY." eh kong pagkumparahin kaya natin ang kaMangMangan mong paniniwala at sinasabi hingGil sa Resurrection at ang mismong sinasabi ni Kristo na malinaw na nakasulat sa Bibliy hinggil dito?!
MANNY CRUZ:
KITAMS nyo mga kaibigan? HINDI ALAM ng "BIBLE EXPERT" na BULOK ISLAM kung papano sagotin ng puntong ibinato natin sa kanya. Sa halip na ipakita niya sa atin na TAMA ang pagkaintindi niya sa FuNCTION OF ANALOGY patungkol sa usaping 3 daya and 3 nights ni Jonah at Jesus eh NILIHIS na lang niya ang TOPIC. Resurrecon na lang daw ang pag-usapan? Hahahaha! Bulok talaga!
Try again Mr Bulok Islam at marami na ang NATAWA at NAALIW diyan sa istilo mong Bulok. HEHEHEHE!!!!!
Muslim;
ReplyDeleteang tunay na Dios nga ay walang katulad bakit mo pilit na itutulad ang Dios sa Tao? ang tanga mo naman! 10:31 AM
Cenon Bibe;
O ano? Cno pa ang kilala mong dyos na katulad ng TRINIDAD? Ituro mo. Dali! 10:32 AM
Muslim;
tapus itinutuld mo pa ang Dios sa likha nyang Spiritu pwede ba yon na ang Dios ay maging katulad sa mg nilikh nya? tanga ka talaga! 10:32 AM
Cenon Bibe;
Cno nga ang katulad ng TRINIDAD? Wala d b. TUNAY KASI 10:32 AM
Muslim;
hehehehehehehe! eh di si Aling Trining 10:33 AM
Cenon Bibe;
Cno yung katulad ng Trinity? Cno ang tulad sa TUNAY NA DIYOS AT TUNAY NA TAO? Wala ka maituro? Ha? 10:33 AM
E d nasungalngal mo mukha mo. Hehe. Walang maituro na katulad ng Trinity 10:34 AM
D ba kayo nagtataka? Andami nyo hindi kayo manalo-nalo. Wala kasi kayo sa katotohanan e. Umanib kayo sa hindi Diyos ang nagtayo 10:36 AM
Muslim;
ang tunay na Dios ay walang katulad, hindi sya pwedeng maging katulad ng kanyang mga nilikha na mga Tao at Espiritu at kong ano-ano pang likha nya! 10:36 AM
Cenon Bibe;
Kaya nga WALANG KATULAD ang TRINITY e. TUNAY kasi 10:37 AM
Muslim;
trinity? 3 n 1 or 1 n 3 Kape lang katapat mo! at yang kinikilala mong Dios katulad ng Tao yan nagugutom, Nauuhaw, napapaghod, Natatae Naiihi, oh Tao 10:37 AM
di ba? 10:37 AM
yang dios mo ay katulad ng Tao! 10:37 AM
Cenon Bibe;
Engot. Ang 3in1 na Kape e tatlong magkakaibang sangkap na pinaghalo. Ang Trinity ay IISA ang SANGKAP na may 3 persona. 10:39 AM
Muslim;
Bakit ang Sinasabi mo bang ANAK, AMA @ ESPIRITU di ba natin sila maitutulad sa mga sangkap ng iyong nabanggit? Ginugulo mo lang eh! Pero ano ba talaga ang sinasabi ng Bibliya hinggil sa Katangahan mong ito? basa;
"Number 23:19 God is not a man, neither the son of man yan ang sabi ng Bibliya mo"
Hebrews 5:5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee. 10:40 AM
6 "As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec." 10:40 AM
Cenon Bibe;
O ano? Andami nyo dyan lahat ng usapan talo kayo. Kasi nga e wala kayo s katotohanan 10:40 AM
Muslim;
7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him 10:41 AM
from death, and was heard in that he feared; 10:41 AM
Cenon Bibe;
O nakita mo? C Hesus ay Anak ng Diyos. Yan ang tunay na Diyos. May Anak. Bat ang dyos nyo walang anak? 10:42 AM
Kitams? C Hesus nag-alay ng sarili nya. Bat ang hesus nyo hindi nag-alay? 10:43 AM
Nung inc o born agen pa kayo e marami kayong namemorya na talata. Pero dahil huwad din nasamahan nyo e naitalikod pa kayo kay Kristo 10:44 AM
Muslim;
Jhn 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my 10:48 AM
Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. 10:48 AM
oh nauunawaan mo ba ang sinasabi ni Kristong iyan?! 10:49 AM
anak ng dios? bakit ikaw kaninong anak ka ba? ah malamang anak ka ng Demonyo! 10:50 AM
nag-alay ng sarilim para kanino? 10:51 AM
matt 12:7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless. 10:52 AM
oh hindi ba malinaw na SiNaSalunGt mo na naman si Kristo sa Matt 12:7 ? hehehehehehe! AntiKristo ka talaga! at Anti Bible pa! 10:55 AM
sige iexplain mo yang John 20:17 kaya mo? kaya siguro di mo matanggap ang nasabing talata dahil hindi ka anak ng Dios kundi anak ka ng Demonyo! 11:01 AM
Oh kumaripas ka na naman ng Takbo Demon este Cenon pala! hehehehehehe! Bibliya lang talaga katapat mo sa akin Demonyo ka!
nsg post itong muslim ng usapan nila ni bro cenon sa text pero hindi niya nahalata na nilampaso na pala siya ni bro cenon. kahit pa ini edit na niya ang usapan he he he. wala talagang lusot ang kamalian.
ReplyDeleteBro Manny kasi piling pili lang ang gustong pagusapan ni Muslim..Ang alam ko kahit tumagal ng ilang taon pag topic ay tungkol sa 72 virgins ay tyak na alisto pa sa alas kwatro ay magiging attentive yan si muslim hehehehe..
ReplyDeletePero subukan mo katulad nyang mga seryosong tanong ay naku wala kang aasahan dyan kay Muslim..Kung makikita mo wala syang ginagawa kundi mag copy-paste..Copy paste na walang kasamang paliwanag nya..Ang kadugtong ng copy paste nya ay pagmumura at pagiinsulto..Gawaing muslim kasi..At nakakatuwa pa nito yung copy paste nya ay hindi nya rin alam mismo kung ano pakahulugan hahahaha..
Islam: The Religion Of Truth by Abdur Raheem Green
ReplyDeletefollow this LINK...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCgj6p3JTLg&feature=PlayList&p=7970D0A026F65768&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=7
So true what the noble Qur an tells us about people...they have the eyes but cannot see,the have ears but cannot hear...everyone who is sincere at heart and is rational would no doubt confirm that Islam is the truth,but the shaytaan works 24/7 and leads people to disbelief...
I really wish for everyone in this universe to be guided to the straight path, the path that Adam, Ibrahim, Mouses, Jesus Christ and Muhammad on peace be upon them all.
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeletensg post itong muslim ng usapan nila ni bro cenon sa text pero hindi niya nahalata na nilampaso na pala siya ni bro cenon. kahit pa ini edit na niya ang usapan he he he. wala talagang lusot ang kamalian.
Muslim;
Hoy Tanga! marunong ka bang magbasa? anong bang sinasabi ng kapalitan ng si Demon este Cenmon Bibe mo dyan? Hindi mo ba nauunawan ang sinasabi ng kapalitan ng iniIdolo mo dyan?
Ito ang sabi ng Kapalitan ng MangMang mong iniIdolo na si Demon este Cenon Bibe pala...
"Oh kumaripas ka na naman ng Takbo Demon este Cenon pala! hehehehehehe! Bibliya lang talaga katapat mo sa akin Demonyo ka!"
Papaano ba naSungalNgal ang iniIdolo mo ng pakalitan nya ng text sa usapang yan?
ito at irirepost ko para sa kaMangMangan mo! ang hihina talaga ng mga UTAK ninyo!
Cenon Bibe;
O nakita mo? C Hesus ay Anak ng Diyos. Yan ang tunay na Diyos. May Anak. Bat ang dyos nyo walang anak?
Kitams? C Hesus nag-alay ng sarili nya. Bat ang hesus nyo hindi nag-alay?
Nung inc o born agen pa kayo e marami kayong namemorya na talata. Pero dahil huwad din nasamahan nyo e naitalikod pa kayo kay Kristo
Muslim;
Jhn 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
oh nauunawaan mo ba ang sinasabi ni Kristong iyan?!
anak ng dios? bakit ikaw kaninong anak ka ba? ah malamang anak ka ng Demonyo!
nag-alay ng sarilim para kanino?
Matt 12:7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.
oh hindi ba malinaw na SiNaSalunGt mo na naman si Kristo sa Matt 12:7 ? hehehehehehe! AntiKristo ka talaga! at Anti Bible pa!
Sige iexplain mo yang John 20:17 kaya mo? kaya siguro di mo matanggap ang nasabing talata dahil hindi ka anak ng Dios kundi anak ka ng Demonyo!
Oh kumaripas ka na naman ng Takbo Demon este Cenon pala! hehehehehehe! Bibliya lang talaga katapat mo sa akin Demonyo ka!
Bugok-Slum:
ReplyDeleteI really wish for everyone in this universe to be guided to the straight path, the path that Adam, Ibrahim, Mouses, Jesus Christ and Muhammad on peace be upon them all.
(Hindi po n'ya naiintindihan 'yan copy-paste n'ya, kasi english, bobo po kasi itong salot sa Slum heheh)
Anti-muhammad:
Adam, Ibrahim, Mouses, Jesus Christ and Muhammad on peace be upon them all.
Ok na sana eh, kaso bakit may nasamang phedopile? pwede ba bugok-slum paki-tanggal ung nasa huli ung muhammad ba un kasi kinikilabutan ako eh bakit isinasama 'yang arabong 'propeta' kuno na 'yan na walang ibang ipinunla sa puso n'yo kundi magalit sa Judio at mga Cristiano.
Tanggalin mo 'yan ha at 'wag mo na ulit mabanggit-banggit yang pangalan na 'yan ok dahil kinikilabutan ako sa phedopile na 'yan.
Shookran bugok Slum.
BUGOK-ISLAM, KUNG TALAGANG MALAKAS ANG LOOB MO, I-CHECK MO RIN ITONG MGA LINK SA IBABA:
ReplyDelete(Magaling ka naman sa copy-paste diba?)
PARA MADAGDAGAN NAMAN ANG ALAM MO HINDI UNG PURO KA NA LANG AHMED DEEDAT! PAG NAGKITA KAYO SA KABILANG BUHAY NUN BAKA BATUKAN KA PA EH BAKIT DAW NANIWALA KA HEHEHEH..
THE "PROPHET" OF DOOM
prophetofdoom.net/Prophet_of_Doom_11_Satans_Bargain.Islam
MUHAMMAD AND SATAN
www.answering-islam.org/Silas/satan.htm
WHY DID MUHAMMAD NEED SATAN?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQmw8ZHFKLw
THE QURAN IS INCOMPLETE AND UNTRUSTWORTHY
http://www.vexen.co.uk/religion/islam_untrustworthykoran.html
GOOD LUCK BUGOK - SLUM!
SABI po NATIN:
ReplyDeleteNATURAL, DAPAT UMANIB. Ayon sa INYO e NANIWALA sa PROPETA MO E.
PALAMURANG BALIK ISLAM:
Ganon? kawawa ka naman Demon este Cenon Bibe pala.
CENON BIBE:
O ano po? HINDI RAW KAILANGANG UMANIB sa BALIK ISLAM.
KAWAWA raw ang NAGSASABI na DAPAT UMANIB sa BALIK ISLAM ang NANINIWALA sa PROPETA NILA.
IYAN po ang DEKLARASYON ng NAIPIT na PALAMURA.
Kung ganoon e BAKIT PATULOY pa ang mga BALIK ISLAM sa PANLOLOKO at PAGKAKALAT ng MGA MALING ARAL NILA laban sa BIBLIYA at sa KRISTIYANISMO?
HINDI pala DAPAT MAG-BALIK ISLAM tulad ni HART. O, di ba?
Ganyan po ang BALIK ISLAM kapag NAIIPIT.
PALAMJRANG BALIK ISLAM:
ReplyDeletePara po sa KaTaNgHang pinagSasabi nitong si Demon este Cenon Bibe pala ngayon; This Time po hindi po ang Mismong Bible nya ang SuSungalNgal sa KaTangahAng Pinagsasabi nya ngayon kundi ang Qur'an po ang SusuPalpaL ng KamangMangan nya pong piangsasabi ngayon!
ito po basa Q 2:256
"There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Tâghût[] and believes in Allâh, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allâh is All-Hearer, All-Knower."
CENON BIBE:
UY! NO COMPULSION o WALANG PILITAN daw po AYON sa QURAN.
NILOLOKO na naman po TAYO ng mga BALIK ISLAM na ITO.
E BAKIT PO INIUUTOS din daw ng QURAN na PATAYIN ang mga PIPILI ng IBANG RELIHIYON at TATALIKOD sa ISLAM?
Heto raw po ang SABI ng SURAH 4:89 ayon sa INTERPRETASYON ni MUHAMMAD MOHSIN KHAN:
"But if they turn back (from Islam), take (hold of) them and KILL THEM wherever you find them,"
IYAN po ba ang NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION? IYAN po ba ang WALANG PILITAN?
Kapag BALIK ISLAM ka na pala e NO CHOICE KA NA. Kapag UMALIS ka pa sa BALIK ISLAM e DAPAT KA NANG PATAYIN ayon daw po iyan sa QURAN, sabi ni MOHSIN KHAN.
Iyan po ang DAHILAN kung BAKIT KAHIT ALAM ng mga BALIK ISLAM na HINDI ANG DIYOS ang NAGTAYO ng INANIBAN NILA ay NAGPAPAKAHIRAP pa rin SILA doon. NO CHOICE na SILA e. SAPILITAN NA.
Iyan po ang DAHILAN kung BAKIT KAHIT ALAM ng mga BALIK ISLAM na WALA SILANG MAIPAKIKITANG MISMONG SALITA ng DIYOS sa AKLAT NILA e IPINAGPIPILITAN pa rin NILA IYON. WALA NA SILANG MAPUPUNTAHAN e. PAPATAYIN NA SILA kapag TUMALIKOD pa SILA DOON e.
Kahit pa ALAM NILANG WALANG KALIGTASAN sa PINASOK NILA e ANDUN pa rin SILA. INIUTOS daw kasi na PATAYIN SILA kapag TUMALIKOD pa SILA e.
SCHOLAR po NILA ang MAY SABI NIYAN. HINDI po si CENON BIBE.
Kaya nga po PAULIT-ULIT NA LANG ang mga BALIK ISLAM sa MGA PANINIRA NILA sa ATIN. Kahit pa NASAGOT at NAIPALIWANAG NA NATIN ang mga IYAN e INUULIT na lang NILA. SAPILITAN na po KASI SILANG NARIYAN sa INANIBAN NILA.
So, ano po? NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION po ba tulad ng SINASABI raw sa S2:256?
LUMABAS na naman po ang KONTRAHAN sa mga INTERPRETASYON sa QURAN, di po ba?
NAIPIT NA BALIK ISLAM:
ReplyDeleteLet The Bible Speak!
Matt 12:
38
Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
39
But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
40
For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
Jonah 1:17
".... And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights."
CENON BIBE:
SAAN po SINABI na 72 ORAS ang TIME FACTOR o TIME ELEMENT DIYAN?
WALA po.
Sabi ng NAIPIT na BALIK ISLAM e "LET THE BIBLE SPEAK."
E ASAN po ang SINABI ng BIBLE na ORAS ang ELEMENTO ng Mt12:40?
NANLOKO NA NAMAN po itong BALIK ISLAM na ITO.
NO CHOICE na po KASI sa PINASUKAN NIYA kaya TULOY-TULOY na lang ang PANLOLOKO.
SABI po NATIN:
ReplyDeleteIYAN PO ang BALIK ISLAM. PILIT pang NILOLOKO ang SARILI kahit NASAGOT NA NANG PAULIT-ULIT ang ISYU sa Mt12:40.
PILIT pa ring NILOLOKO ang SARILI kahit HINDI NA NGA MAKASAGOT at HINDI MAKATUTOL sa mga PALIWANAG ng KRISTIYANO ukol sa 3 DAYS and 3 NIGHTS.
NAIPIT na BALIK ISLAM:
Ang naging tanong lang naman dyan na hindi matugonan op masagot nitong si Demon este Cenon Bibe pala ay kong ilang ORAS ang nakapaloob sa sinasabi o sa binanggit ni Kristo na 3 Days and 3 Nights ng Matt 12:40
CENON BIBE:
At BAKIT KO NAMAN SASAGUTIN ang INIMBENTO LANG NINYO? Hehe
NASAAN sa Mt12:40 ang SINASABI MONG 72 ORAS na NAKAPALOOB sa 3 DAYS and 3 NIGHTS?
NILOLOKO NINYO ang SARILI NINYO tapos GUSTO NINYO e LOKOHIN KO RIN ang MUKHA KO?
Kayo na lang po. KAYO ang BALIK ISLAM at SANAY sa PANLOLOKO SA SARILI NINYO e.
BALIK ISLAM quoting some UNKNOWN AUTHOR:
ReplyDeleteSurprisingly, over the centuries many an eminent non-Muslim has rated Muhummed (PBUH) most highly and given due recognition to his greatness. A selection of their quotations appear on page?* 10 and 11.
Michael H. Hart, a Christian American, astronomer, mathematician, lawyer, chessmaster and scientist, after extensive research, published an incisive biography of the 100 most influential people of all time.
CENON BIBE:
And WHEN DID MICHAEL HART CONVERT to ISLAM to PROVE that HE INDEED BELIEVED YOUR PROPHET?
HE NEVER BECAME a BALIK ISLAM. THAT ONLY PROVES that HE WAS BEING "NICE" TO THE PROPHET of ISLAM.
HART NEVER REALLY BELIEVED IN THE ISLAMIC PROPHET. HAD HE DID, HE WOULD HAVE BECOME A BALIK ISLAM LONG TIME AGO.
THE FACT that HE NEVER BECAME an ISLAMIC REVERT SHOWS that HE NEVER REALLY BELIEVED THE PROPHET OF ISLAM.
ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.
NO ONE is TELLING ANYONE, especially the MUSLIMS or the BALIK ISLAMS, NOT TO BELIEVE in their PROPHET.
ReplyDeleteTHEY CAN BELIEVE IN HIM ALL THEY WANT.
However, THE FACT REMAINS that THE BALIK ISLAM CANNOT PROVE that GOD HIMSELF APPOINTED THEIR PROPHET.
On the CONTRARY, the BALIK ISLAMS THEMSELVES have DECLARED that GOD NEVER SPOKE TO THEIR PROPHET.
If YOU WERE TO CHOOSE TO BELIEVE in a PROPHET, WOULD YOU CHOOSE a PROPHET WHO NEVER HAD A MANDATE FROM GOD HIMSELF?
IF YOU WERE TO PUT THE SALVATION OF YOUR SOUL in the HANDS of a PROPHET, WOULD YOU ENTRUST YOUR SALVATION TO SOMEONE WHO GOD NEVER EVEN TALKED TO?
THAT is the DECISION that YOU HAVE TO MAKE.
In MY CASE, I CHOSE to BECOME A CHRISTIAN because GOD HIMSELF BECAME MAN to SAVE and ESTABLISH HIS RELIGION on EARTH, that RELIGION is CHRISTIANITY, specifically CATHOLICISM.
I WAS BAPTIZED a CHRISTIAN as a child and as an ADULT I CHOSE to REMAIN a CHRISTIAN because GOD HIMSELF FOUNDED the CHRISTIAN CHURCH.
The BASES for MY BEING A CHRISTIAN ARE CLEAR.
I DO NOT HAVE TO FOOL MYSELF and I DO NOT HAVE TO INVENT SO MANY LIES JUST TO CONVINCE MYSELF THAT I BELONG TO THE RELIGION FOUNDED BY GOD.
BALIK ISLAM quoting some UNKNOWN AUTHOR:
ReplyDeleteIslam is the only religion which teaches the existence of a PERFECT God. A
perfect God means that there is no sharer in His Nature and His Attributes:
"Say: He is God, the One and Only; God, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth
not, nor is He begotten; and there is none like unto Him." (Holy Qur'an,
112:1-4)
CENON BIBE:
Is that so?
Well, CAN this BALIK ISLAM TELL US HOW HE KNEW of the PERFECT GOD, when HE HIMSELF SAYS that GOD NEVER SPOKE EVEN TO THEIR PROPHET?
CAN this BALIK ISLAM SAY that THEY KNOW the PERFECT GOD when THE PERFECT GOD NEVER EVEN BOTHERED to PERSONALLY REVEAL HIMSELF TO THEM?
TALK is CHEAP. WHERE IS THE PROOF that THE BALIK ISLAM KNOWS the PERFECT GOD?
But HOW CAN HE KNOW the PERFECT GOD, when the PERFECT GOD NEVER EVEN REVEALED HIMSELF TO THEIR PROPHET? RIGHT?
BALIK ISLAM quoting an UNKNOWN AUTHOR:
ReplyDeleteNumerous quotations from the Bible are given below to prove that Jesus
neither SHARED THE NATURE OF GOD, nor is he IN EVERY WAY LIKE GOD. He can,
therefore, NEVER be GOD.
CENON BIBE:
THIS BALIK ISLAM and HIS SOURCE ARE NOT CREDIBLE.
HOW MANY TIMES have WE CAUGHT HIM and HIS SOURCE LYING?
ALL THE TIME.
He CLAIMS to READ VERSES from the BIBLE that would "prove" that Jesus can never be God. But HOW CAN HE UNDERSTAND the VERSES when HE DOES NOT EVEN KNOW WHICH PART of the QURAN WAS SAID DIRECTLY BY GOD to THEIR PROPHET?
HE is MEDDLING in the BIBLE when HE IS IGNORANT of the VERY BOOK that THEY CLAIM as "GOD'S WORD."
SIMPLY PUT, this BALIK ISLAM and HIS SOURCE are NOT CREDIBLE.
BALIK ISLAM quoting some UNKNOWN AUTHOR:
ReplyDeleteTHE BIRTH OF "GOD"
"God" was created from the seed of David: "Concerning his Son Jesus Christ
our Lord, which was made of the SEED of David according to the flesh."
(Romans, 1:3)
CENON BIBE:
Here the BALIK ISLAM MAKES USE of HIS DISTORTED CLAIMS and DISTORTED USE of BIBLE VERSES.
Let us DISCUSS ONE VERSE to PROVE that THIS BALIK ISLAM is a MASTER OF DISTORTION.
In HIS WRONG COMMENTS on Rom 1:3, this BALIK ISLAM says "God" was created from the seed of David.
Please TAKE NOTE of the DECEPTION of THIS BALIK ISLAM: He uses the word "CREATED" for GOD the SON, the LORD JESUS CHRIST.
THAT WORD CANNOT BE FOUND in ROMANS 1:3. IT IS NOT THERE.
The BALIK ISLAM ADDED the WORD "CREATED" to DISTORT the TEXT.
HE INVENTED a TOTALLY DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING of Rom 1:3 so that HE COULD DISTORT its MEANING and to FOOL and MISLEAD the UNAWARE.
That is the CASE with ALL THE OTHER TEXTS that THIS BALIK ISLAM GAVE and DELIBERATELY DISTORTED.
This BALIK ISLAM USES TEXT NOT TO TEACH but to FOOL and MISLEAD.
Rom 1:3 simply MEANS, that JESUS WAS a DESCENDANT OF DAVID. It is pointing out that JESUS is a TRUE ISRAELITE because when HE DECIDED to COME IN THE FLESH HE CAME THROUGH THE LINE or SEED of DAVID.
That FACT is IMPORTANT because THE PROPHET referred to in Deut 18:18 SHOULD BE AN ISRAELITE.
Rom 1:3 ONLY PROVES that JESUS is the PROPHET that GOD WILL BRING UP AMONG the BRETHREN of the ISRAELITES.
PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE GOD!
ANONYMOUS:
ReplyDeletensg post itong muslim ng usapan nila ni bro cenon sa text pero hindi niya nahalata na nilampaso na pala siya ni bro cenon. kahit pa ini edit na niya ang usapan he he he. wala talagang lusot ang kamalian.
CENON BIBE:
HAYAAN lang NATIN sa GINAGAWA NIYA.
DIYAN po NATIN MAKIKITA na HINDI NAG-IISIP ang mga BALIK ISLAM na ITO.
SILA ang NALAMPASO pero SILA pa ang NAGLALAGAY DITO ng PAGKALAMPASO NILA.
HAYAAN po NATIN na IPAHIYA NILA ang KANILANG MGA SARILI.
TIWALA naman po AKO na NAKIKITA NINYO ang KATOTOHANAN.
PURIHIN si KRISTO! PURIHIN ang DIYOS!
Muslim;
ReplyDeleteHoy Tanga! marunong ka bang magbasa? anong bang sinasabi ng kapalitan ng si Demon este Cenmon Bibe mo dyan? Hindi mo ba nauunawan ang sinasabi ng kapalitan ng iniIdolo mo dyan?
Anonymous:
hoy bobo! nilampaso ka ni bro cenon at yun ang totoo! b'at ka angal ng angal diyan ha!
muslim;
ReplyDeleteanak ng dios? bakit ikaw kaninong anak ka ba? ah malamang anak ka ng Demonyo!
anonymous;
aber, kaninong anak naman itong muslim na ito? sa dios ba? ok tingnan natin. ...di ba claim nila galing daw sila sa binhi ni ismael na kapatid ni isaac na anak ni abraham? well and good. tatay daw nila si abraham? fine. kaso lang, kinilala ba ng dios na anak ni abraham si ismael? hehe. hindi po. at dahil dyan, hindi rin kayo kinilala ng dios na mga anak ni abraham. at lalong hindi kayo kinikila ng dios na anak niya. papano nga naman kayo kikilalanin ng dios na mga anak niya kung kayo rin mismo ay hindi kumikilala sa dios bilang inyong ama? Tama? sorry na lang muslim pero yan ang totoo. hindi kayo mga anak ng dios dahil hindi ninyo siya ama? kahit pa sabihin natin na mga anak nga kayo ng dios, pero ang problema nyo talaga mga muslim ay hindi ninyo kinikilala ang dios bilang inyong ama! kaya wala kayong karapatang tawaging mga anak ng dios. Tama? hehehe. Tamang tama! kung hindi kayo nga anak ng dios, kaninong anak kayo? alam nyo na ang sagot diyan hehehe.