3 PM or 9TH HOUR? What Time did Jesus Die?

A MUSLIM named Abdulgafoor B. Ahmad ACCUSED the Bible of having "CONTRADICTIONS" about the TIME when the LORD JESUS DIED.

He cited MARK 15:34 and MATTHEW 27:46 which ALLEGEDLY showed DIFFERENT TIMES when JESUS DIED.

AHMAD'S POST READS:
"Abdulgafoor B. Ahmad ito na Mark 15:34 At nang ikatlo ng hapon ay sumigaw si Jesus ng malakas na tinig: Eloi, Eloi, lama sabacthani? na kung liliwanagin ay, Dios ko, Dios ko, bakit mo ako pinabayaan?

("IKATLO ng hapon" = "THREE in the afternoon")

"Mateo 27:45 at nang malapit na ang oras na ikasiyam ay sumigaw si Jesus ng malakas na tinig: Eloi, Eloi, lama sabacthani? na kung liliwanagin."

("oras na ikasiyam" = "ninth hour")

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A. QUICK RESPONSE:

THERE is NO CONTRADICTION between "THREE in the afternoon" and the "NINTH hour." THEY are EQUIVALENT to EACH OTHER.

"NINTH hour" is the BIBLICAL/JEWISH PRESENTATION.

"THREE in the afternoon" is the EQUIVALENT of "NINTH hour" in the OUR TIME.

SOME TRANSLATIONS USE the JEWISH PRESENTATION = "NINTH hour," while others PRESENT the TIME according to the way we usually do it = "THREE in the afternoon."

THERE is NO CONTRADICTION, but ONLY a DIFFERENCE in PRESENTATION.

(Please READ FULL EXPLANATION BELOW: SECTION C)

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B. MUSLIM DECEPTION

I CHECKED SEVERAL FILIPINO VERSIONS or TRANSLATIONS of the VERSES and it APPEARS that the MUSLIM TRIED to FOOL US.

In the TRANSLATIONS, THERE WERE NO DIFFERENCES in the TIME, ONLY DIFFERENCES in PRESENTATION.

In the MAGANDANG BALITA BIBLIA (GOOD NEWS BIBLE), BOTH MARK 15:34 and MATTHEW 27:46 have "mag-IIKATLO ng hapon" or "about THREE in the afternoon."

In the ANG BIBLIA (THE BIBLE), BOTH VERSES have "oras na IKASIYAM" or "NINTH hour."

NONE of the FILIPINO VERSIONS have DIFFERENT TIMES in the TWO VERSES. It is either BOTH "THREE in the afternoon" or BOTH "NINTH hour."

In the VERSES GIVEN by the MUSLIM, HE had TWO DIFFERENT TIMES: Mark 15:34 = "IKATLO ng hapon" (THREE in the afternoon); Matthew 27:46 = "oras na IKASIYAM" (NINTH hour).

The MUSLIM appear to have DISTORTED the PRESENTATIONS to show a "CONTRADICTION."

MUSLIMS LOVE to ACCUSE the BIBLE of having been "CORRUPTED," but it seems MUSLIMS are the ONES CORRUPTING the BIBLE to DISCREDIT IT. =(

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C. THREE in the afternoon = NINTH hour

We already noted that "THREE in the afternoon" and "NINTH hour" refer to ONE and the SAME TIME.

THESE are only DIFFERENCES in PRESENTATION and NOT CONTRADICTIONS.

The JEWS COUNTED HOURS of the DAY from SUNRISE (approximately 6 A.M.). So, ONE HOUR AFTER SUNRISE is the FIRST HOUR (7 A.M.) and SO ON.

Their SIXTH hour is 12 NOON in OUR TIME.

So, the NINTH hour for the JEWS is EQUIVALENT to our 3 P.M.

And THAT is WHY SOME TRANSLATIONS of MARK 15:34 and MATTHEW 27:46 have "NINTH hour" (after the JEWISH PRESENTATION) while some have "THREE in the afternoon" (following OUR PRESENTATION.).

NO CONTRADICTION.

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D. MUSLIM IGNORANCE or DECEPTION?

This issue EXPOSES DISTURBING REALITIES about the ATTACKS being done by some MUSLIMS on the Bible.

One is the seeming IGNORANCE of MUSLIMS who use the DIFFERENCES in the PRESENTATION of TIME in Mark 15:34 and Matthew 27:46.

These MUSLIMS seem to NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT and yet they BLATANTLY DISPLAY their IGNORANCE as "KNOWLEDGE."

The other disturbing reality is the seeming DELIBERATE DISTORTION by KNOWLEDGEABLE MUSLIMS who only want to DECEIVE those who DO NOT KNOW the TRUTH.

Matthew 27:46, Mark 15:34 (Jesus Called On the Muslim God?)

A MUSLIM, Ahmad Sha Untong, shared his MISCONCEPTION about MATTHEW 27:46 and MARK 15:34.

Untong said JESUS (the Christian God) CALLED on the GOD OF MUSLIMS.

This MUSLIM said:

"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? " (Matthew 27:46).

"And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? " (Mark 15:34).

According to these parallel verses,

1. Jesus has a God.
2. Jesus claimed that he is forsaken by his God.

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Ahmad Sha Untong, ALLOW ME to REPEAT the CORRECTION to YOUR MISCONCEPTION of MATTHEW 27:46 and MARK 15:34.

The WORDS of the LORD JESUS in the TWO PARALLEL VERSES are NOT A DENIAL of HIS DIVINITY, as YOU WRONGLY CLAIM.

In the TWO VERSES, the LORD JESUS was QUOTING PSALM 22:2 (PSALM 22:1), the SONG OF THE OPPRESSED.

PSALM 22:2 READS:
My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from helping me, from the words of my groaning?

WHY did JESUS QUOTE PSALM 22:2?

JESUS wanted to SHOW HIS UNITY with the OPPRESSED.

JESUS was TELLING the OPPRESSED: "DO NOT DESPAIR. YOU are NOT ALONE. I, GOD, AM WITH YOU. I, GOD, SUFFER WITH YOU."

JESUS was only STRESSING the MEANING of HIS "NAME" EMMANUEL, which means GOD IS WITH US.

MATTHEW 1:23
"Look, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall name him EMMANUEL," which means, "GOD IS WITH US."

In MATTHEW 1:23 (ISAIAH 7:14), GOD STRESSED that HE IS WITH US. WE are NOT LEFT ORPHANED. (JOHN 14:18)

That is why GOD HIMSELF BECAME MAN and SHARED in our HUMANITY. (JOHN 1:1, 14)

In SHARING in OUR HUMANITY, GOD WENT ALL THE WAY, by SHARING in OUR SUFFERINGS and even in OUR DEATH.

And, as GOD SAID IT in MATTHEW 27:46 and MARK 15:34, HE also SHARED in the OPPRESSION that WE BEAR.

THAT is the MEANING of "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? " (Matthew 27:46).

"And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? " (Mark 15:34).

THAT is NOT a DENIAL that JESUS is GOD.

THAT is a CONFIRMATION that GOD is TRULY WITH THOSE who BELIEVE and ACCEPT HIM.

I PRAY that YOU WILL ALSO ACCEPT GOD BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.

I DO NOT WANT YOUR SOUL to GO to HELL.

Jesus Declared Himself as God (John 5:18; John 10:30-33)

A MUSLIM who calls himself Faiz Nicart said:
"There is not a single clear unequivocal statement in the complete bible where Jesus himself says that I am God or worship me."

OUR RESPONSE:
YOU DO NOT SEE any "unequivocal statement" because YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND the BIBLE.

The fact that JESUS SAID that GOD was HIS FATHER was a CLEAR DECLARATION by Him that HE WAS GOD.

The JEWS who HEARD JESUS say that GOD was HIS FATHER CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD it as JESUS DECLARING HIMSELF as GOD.

JOHN 5:18
For this reason the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because he was not only breaking the sabbath, but was also calling God his own Father, thereby MAKING HIMSELF EQUAL TO GOD.

Also, when JESUS SAID in JOHN 10:30 that "I and the FATHER are ONE" was a CLEAR DECLARATION that HE WAS GOD.

Again, the JEWS who HEARD HIM MAKE that DECLARATION CLEARLY UNDERSTOOD it as JESUS DECLARING HIMSELF as GOD.

JOHN 10:30-33
The Father and I are one."

The Jews took up stones again to stone him.

Jesus replied, "I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these are you going to stone me?"

The Jews answered, "It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you, but for blasphemy, because you, though only a human being, are MAKING YOURSELF GOD."

SEE?

JESUS DECLARED that HE WAS GOD and the PEOPLE of that TIME--especially the JEWS--UNDERSTOOD that HE WAS DECLARING HIMSELF as GOD.

Mark 12:29, Jesus Denied He was God?

MUSLIMS often cite Mark 12:29 as "proof" that JESUS DENIED that HE WAS GOD.

The verse reads: "Jesus answered, "The first is, 'Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God, the Lord is one."

Is this really a denial of Jesus's divinity?

NO. THERE is NO SUCH DENIAL.

MUSLIMS TAKE MARK 12:29 OUT OF CONTEXT to DELIBERATELY MISQUOTE JESUS.

In MARK 12:29, JESUS was SIMPLY ANSWERING a QUESTION POSED by a SCRIBE or JEWISH LEADER.

MARK 12:28 says:
One of the scribes came near and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, he asked him, "Which commandment is the first of all?"

Jesus was ASKED about the "FIRST" OF ALL COMMANDMENTS.

So, JESUS SIMPLY CITED DEUTERONOMY 6:4.

That is why we read in MARK 12:29
"JESUS ANSWERED, "The first is, 'Hear, O Israel: the Lord our God, the Lord is one."

DEUTERONOMY 6:4 SAYS:
"Hear, O Israel: The LORD is our God, the LORD alone."

The DIVINITY of JESUS was NEVER PUT in QUESTION. The SCRIBE only wanted to TEST JESUS'S KNOWLEDGE of SCRIPTURES and GOD'S COMMANDMENTS.

So, it is WRONG for MUSLIMS to CLAIM that JESUS was DENYING that HE WAS GOD in MARK 12:29. DIVINITY was NOT the ISSUE.

MUSLIMS should STOP MISQUOTING JESUS because MISQUOTING JESUS leads to LYING ABOUT JESUS.

Holy Trinity 1+1+1=1?

MUSLIMS usually use the mathematical equation "1+1+1=1" to show their objection to the Holy Trinity being 3 PERSONS in 1 GOD ... and to show that the belief is "wrong."

Sadly, MUSLIMS are USING the WRONG EQUATION.

ADDITION is USED for PHYSICAL MATTER.

GOD, the HOLY TRINITY, is NOT PHYSICAL. GOD is SPIRITUAL and GOD is POWER.

In MATH, POWER is expressed through MULTIPLICATION.

So, in relation to GOD, the RIGHT EQUATION is:

1x1x1=1

GOD BE PRAISED!