GUMAWA na naman po ng BAGONG KATHA itong BALIK ISLAM na HINDI MAKATUTOL sa mga SAGOT natin sa KANYA.
Sabi po ng BALIK ISLAM sa post niya rito:
"Trinity: Trinity it is a concept that means, Three different Gods in one or Three different Gods are united in one body. As according to the Bible;"
“For there are three that bear record in Heaven, the Father, the Word and Holy Ghost; and these three are one.” 1 John 5:7 King James version"
SAAN na naman po kayang KOMIKS o FANTASY BOOK nakuha nitong BALIK ISLAM ang DEFINITION NIYA ng TRINITY?
Ang TRINITY po ay ang IISANG DIYOS na MAY TATLONG PERSONA.
Kung nag-SEARCH lang siya sa GOOGLE para sa TRINITY ay NAKITA sana niya na MALI na naman ang SINASABI NIYA.
Sa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity pa lang po ay MALINAW ang DEFINITION ng TRINITY.
Sabi riyan.
"The Christian doctrine of the Trinity teaches the unity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as THREE PERSONS in ONE GODHEAD."
NAPAKALINAW, hindi po ba?
Dagdag pa po ng website na iyan:
"The doctrine states that God is the Triune God, EXISTING as THREE PERSONS, or in the Greek hypostases, BUT ONE BEING."
Nakita po ba ninyo?
NAPAKALAYO sa INIMBENTONG DEFINITION nitong BALIK ISLAM.
PASENSIYA na po pero DESPERADO na TALAGA itong pilit NANINIRA sa BIBLIYA, sa SIMBAHANG KATOLIKO at sa PANGINOONG HESU KRISTO.
Idinagdag pa po niya, "From a mathematical concept, this means: (1+1+1) = 1 (not 3?)"
GANOON?
Kahit po sa MATHEMATICAL ANALYSIS kaugnay sa DIYOS ay kitang-kita na BLANGKO ang UTAK NIYA sa PAG-UNAWA.
Ang DIYOS po ay HINDI 1+1+1. Para po sa mga PISIKAL na BAGAY IYAN e.
Ang DIYOS po ay HINDI PISIKAL kundi ESPIRITWAL at may kaugnay sa KAPANGYARIHAN.
At sa MATH po ay ANO po ba ang PROCESS na may kaugnayan sa KAPANGYARIHAN o POWER?
MULTIPLICATION.
Kaya po ang PROSESO ay 1x1x1.
Ano po ang RESULTA?
E di "1" pa rin.
TUGMANG-TUGMA po iyan sa TAMANG DEFINITION para sa TRINITY na THREE PERSONS in ONE GODHEAD.
Ngayon, KALOKOHAN na lang po ang mga SINASABI ng BALIK ISLAM na NANINIRA sa KRISTIYANISMO.
Ano po ang DAHILAN NIYA at sinusubukan niyang SUBUAN ng KALOKOHAN ang ISIP ng mga nakakabasa sa mga post niya?
Hindi po ba PANLOLOKO?
Ang tanong ay MAGPAPALOKO ba KAYO?
HINDI po kasi SIYA MAKASAGOT sa mga SINASABI NATIN kaya NAG-IIMBENTO na lang SIYA ng mga KALOKOHAN.
Sabi po ng isang READER na nag-TEXT sa akin na PURO KALOKOHAN na lang ang SINASABI ng BALIK ISLAM dito sa blog natin.
SANGAYON po ba kayo?
Ang MAGANDA lang po na BUNGA ng mga GINAGAWA nitong BALIK ISLAM na ito ay LALONG NALALANTAD kung ANONG URI ng PAG-IISIP ang MAYROON SIYA.
Ang mga KINUKUMBINSI na mag-BALIK ISLAM ay MAKAPAG-IISIP po. GUSTO po ba NINYONG MAGING GANYAN? GUSTO po ba ninyong MAGING GANYAN ang mga ANAK NINYO at MAHAL sa BUHAY?
Nasa sa inyo po yon.
Ang HANDOG po ng DIYOS na NAGTATAG ng KRISTIYANISMO ay KARUNUNGAN at TAMANG KAALAMAN.
Iyan po, GUSTO po ba NINYO NIYAN?
SALAMAT po
SAAN na naman po kayang KOMIKS o FANTASY BOOK nakuha nitong BALIK ISLAM ang DEFINITION NIYA ng TRINITY? (Sapul at Supalpal ka na naman ba Mr. Cenon Bibe? ito po dito po sa bibliya na sa di mo lang sinisiraan tinatawag mo pang KOMIKS? basa po; “For there are three that bear record in Heaven, the Father, the Word and Holy Ghost; and these three are one.” 1 John 5:7 King James version"! ang hirap lang po talaga nitong si Mr. Cenon Bibe mga kaibigan kapag nasapul, natumbok o nasupalpal natin eh kong ano-ano na po ang kanyang mga sinasabi against sa Bibliya; meron mali daw po ang salin, at minsan palpak daw po ang gamit natin na Bibliya at kong ano-ano pa po'ng paninira sa Bibliya mga kaibigan; eh sa isang bandang po papaano po natin malalaman na ang Bibliyang hawak natin ay hindi palpak at tama ang salin nito? nakasulat po ba ito sa Bibliya mga kaibigan? na ang Bibliyang yong po ay naglalaman ng TAMANG salin? ha? mga kaibigan? ganon po ba ang ibig ipahiwatig nitong si Mr. Cenon Bibe? hindi naman ah! at ngayon po ang tawag ni Mr. Cenon Bibe sa Bibliya ay KOMIKS naman po; hehehehehehe! ano ba talaga Mr. Cenon BIbe?)
ReplyDeleteAng TRINITY po ay ang IISANG DIYOS na MAY TATLONG PERSONA. (Ok ka lang? ha? Mr. Ceno Bibe? pwede ba huwag ka ng Mangloko pa ng iba, kong ikaw ay kampante na ng Pangloloko sa Sarili mo so be it! dyan ka masaya eh, ang lokohin at paniwalain mo ang sarili mo sa mga katangahan at kamangmangan! una po na punto mga kaibigan susubukin po natin ang Common Sense nitong si Mr. Cenon Bibe; meron pa kaya? ano po ba ang ibig sabihin ng TRI mga kaibigan? From a mathematical concept, this means: (1+1+1) = 1 (not 3?) nasaan na po ang ipinagyayabang na Talino daw nitong si Mr. Cenon Bibe mga kaibigan, eh dyan pa lamang po eh tila Sumablay at Lumagpak na sya sa napakasimpling pangungusap na iyan!)
Kung nag-SEARCH lang siya sa GOOGLE (So mga kaibigan Mr. Cenon Bibe is encouraging people not to READ BIble, just GOOGLE! hehehehehe! would you agree in this IDEA of Mr. Cenon BIbe mga kaibigan?) para sa TRINITY ay NAKITA sana niya na MALI na naman ang SINASABI NIYA. (Wow! mga kaibigan; GOOGLE! in REplace to your Bible? hehehehehe! hindi ako magtataka kong bakit ganoon na lamang ang mga Paninira nitong si Mr. Cenon Bibe sa BIbliya mga kaibigan eh may ipinagmamalaki na pala syang GOOGle mga kaibigan eh! WHAT WAS NOT WRITEN IN THE BIBLE IS NOW AVAILABLE IN GOOGLE! sana po itong GOOGLE na ito na syang IpinagMamalaki nitong si Mr. Cenon Bibe mga kaibigan ay Gawa ng mga tunay na SAKSI; na syang bukang bibig itong si Mr. Bibe mga giliw na tagasubaybay; High Tech huh! ganoon po ba Mr. Cenon Bibe? hehehehehehe! kawawang nilalang hindi marunong gumamit ng Common Sense! an are not Maximizing what GOd has given to him; Does this seems ambiguous? The following issue will be more confusing: When the Chrictians pray to the symbol of Trinity, to whom do they really address their prayer? Is it addressed to God Almighty? Or to the Son? Or to the Holy Ghost? Or all of them? Now we find this issue will lead us to yet another important Question; Among these Three Gods, who is worthy of Worship? Is it God the Father, or the Son, or the Holy Ghost? According to the Ten Commandments of the Bible, the First of all the Commandment was:
ReplyDelete“WORSHIP NO GOD BUT ME” Exodus 20:3 "THOU SHALT HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME"
This clearly shows us that none has the right to be Worshiped other than God Almighty. What about the other two? Are they Mighty too? Christians say that they are worshipping One God, yet this One becomes Three and these Three are One. What a Mystery it is! Actually we have nothing to say about such explanations, except that they are FUZZY MUZZY! (which means very mysterious indeed) lets read a verse from the Bible about this MYstery of the TRINITY; ISAIAH 45:19 "I am the LOrd, and there is no other god. I have not spoken in Secret or kept my purpose hidden.... I am the Lord, and I speak the truth; I make known what is right." so ang linaw po mga kaibigan wala po'ng itinatago ang Dios sa atin! pagdating sa kaligtasan o sa pagkilala sa kanya.)
The Creator and Sustainer has favoured man and blessed him with a Mind! By accepting such concepts, Man commits an Injustice against God Almighty. Also by accepting what Contradicts his Faith and his Mind, the reality that there is no God except One God. This God cannot be two gods.
Canon Bibe;
ReplyDeleteAng TRINITY po ay ang IISANG DIYOS na MAY TATLONG PERSONA. ([Muslim] REAlly? can you explain that to the detail Mr. Cenon Bibe? kong may katotohanan ang pinagsasabi mo eh maipaliwanag mo ang mga iyan na walang bahid na pag-aalinlangan; kasi ang sabi ng Dios sa BIbliya; and I quote: ISAIAH 45:19 "I am the LOrd, and there is no other god. I have not spoken in Secret or kept my purpose hidden.... I am the Lord, and I speak the truth; I make known what is right." ang liwanag po, hindi po ba mga kaibigan? hindi pa rin kaya mahimasmasan itong si Mr. Cenon Bibe sa mga talatang iyan? mga kaibigan? nagtatanong lamang po! kasi po sa isang Tao na may UTAK at Marunong po'ng MAg-isip, napalinaw po ang mga pangungusap sa Talatang iyon!)
Muslim;
Many are the Strange and Puzzling things that we may see, read or hear about. Philosophies, Creeds, Terms, Names, etc. Here are a few; Sphinx, Kryptonite, and Griffin. Did you ever hear such names? Do you know what these things are?
eh di parang ganito nga yon...
Sphinx: A fabled winged monster having a woman’s head and a lion’s body and known for killing anyone unable to answer its Riddle.
Kryptonite: Rocks from the storybook planet Krypton, Superman’s only weakness.
Griffin: A powerful methological animal of the ancient Babylonians. A combination of lion, eagle and serpent, it was considerably more powerful than the sum of its parts.
Hopefuly you believe in the above mention terms; otherwise it may be more difficult to enlighten you on the follwing point.
TRI or Trinity mga kaibigan; From a mathematical concept, this means: (1+1+1) = 1 (not 3?) Mr. Cenon Bibe ganon po ba ang pananaw mo sa usaping ito? Mr. Cenon Bibe may Utak at nasa wastong Pag-iisip ka pa ba? ang ipinagyayabang mo eh napakagaling mo! pero bakit sa punto po'ng iyan ay hindi mo unawa? mga kaibigan we have to maximized what God has given us, the wisdom that God provides Us lets make use of it. huwag po kayong gagaya at maniwala basta-basta sa mga mali na sinasabi nitong si Mr. Cenon Bibe mga kaibigan. inilantad at inilahad ko po sa inyo sa pamamagitan ng blog na ito ang mga pagSAlungat at Pagkontra na TAhasang ginagawa nitong si Mr. Cenon Bibe sa kanyang po'ng Bibliya, sa mismong mga salita ni Kristo at ng Dios! inihayag ko po sa inyo ang mga iyon mga kaibigan. nasa inyo na po ang pagpapasya patungkol sa mga bagaybagay mga kaibigan at mga giliw na tagasubaybay!
Cenon Bibe;
ReplyDeleteKaya po ang PROSESO ay 1x1x1.
Muslim;
Biblical po ba ang mga ipinahahayag initong si Mr. Cenon Bibe mga kaibigan o kathang isip nya po lamang? tila sukol na sukol na po itong si Mr. Cenon Bibe mga kaibigan at ginagawa nya na ang lahat mapagtakpan nya lamang ang kanyang katangahan at kamangmangan! dito po tila desperadong desperado na itong si Mr. Cenon Bibe sa kanyang mga pangangatwiran mga kaibigan:
Cenon Bibe;
Sabi riyan.
"The Christian doctrine of the Trinity teaches the unity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as THREE PERSONS ([Muslim] THREE PERSONS po mga kaibigan; iyan po ang malinaw THREE PERSONS daw po! pag-aamin nitong si Mr. Cenon Bibe mga kaibigan:) in ONE GODHEAD." ([Muslim] TRI or Trinity mga kaibigan; From a mathematical concept, this means: (1+1+1) = 1 (not 3?))
NAPAKALINAW, hindi po ba? ([Muslim] You RUIN it Mr. Cenon BIbe, what the Bible clearly states bout God; You Ruin it!)
Dagdag pa po ng website na iyan: ([Muslim] in replacement to your Bible now Mr. Cenon Bibe found another thing na tingin nya siguro po mga kaibigan mas ACCURATE pa ito kay sa Bibliya nya na may 73 books at ito nga po ang binabangit nyang GOOGLE mga kaibigan; what a Mess! WHAT WAS NOT WRITEN IN THE BIBLE IS NOW AVAILABLE IN GOOGLE! sana po itong GOOGLE na ito na syang IpinagMamalaki nitong si Mr. Cenon Bibe mga kaibigan ay Gawa ng mga tunay na SAKSI;)
"The doctrine states that God is the Triune God, EXISTING as THREE PERSONS, ([Muslim] Now your Talking THREE PERSONS; which simply means three different personalities! Right Mr. Cenon Bibe?) or in the Greek hypostases, BUT ONE BEING." ([Muslim] THREE personalities then in ONe Being? what are you talking about? do you have Common Sense? huh! napakpolpol mo naman!)
Mystification of the Trinity
ReplyDeleteMany are the Strange and Puzzling things that we may see, read or hear about. Philosophies, Creeds, Terms, Names, etc. Here are a few; Sphinx, Kryptonite, and Griffin. Did you ever hear such names? Do you know what these things are?
Sphinx: A fabled winged monster having a woman’s head and a lion’s body and known for killing anyone unable to answer its Riddle.
Kryptonite: Rocks from the storybook planet Krypton, Superman’s only weakness.
Griffin: A powerful methological animal of the ancient Babylonians. A combination of lion, eagle and serpent, it was considerably more powerful than the sum of its parts.
Hopefuly you believe in the above mention terms; otherwise it may be more difficult to enlighten you on the follwing point.
Trinity: Trinity it is a concept that means, Three different Gods in one or Three different Gods are united in one body. As according to the Bible;
“For there are three that bear record in Heaven, the Father, the Word and Holy Ghost; and these three are one.” 1 John 5:7 King James version
From a mathematical concept, this means: (1+1+1) = 1 (not 3?)
Does this seems ambiguous? The following issue will be more confusing: When the Chrictians pray to the symbol of Trinity, to whom do they really address their prayer? Is it addressed to God Almighty? Or to the Son? Or to the Holy Ghost? Or all of them? Now we find this issue will lead us to yet another important Question;
Among these Thhree Gods, who is worthy of Worship? Is it God the Father, or the Son, or the Holy Ghost? According to the Ten Commandments of the Bible, the First of all the Commandment was:
“WORSHIP NO GOD BUT ME” Exodus 20:3
This clearly shows us that none has the right to be Worshiped other than God Almighty. What about the other two? Are they Mighty too? Christians say that they are worshipping One God, yet this One becomes Three and these Three are One. What a Mystery it is! Actually we have nothing to say about such explanations, except that they are FUZZY MUZZY! (which means very mysterious indeed)
The Creator and Sustainer has favoured man and blessed him with a Mind! By accepting such concepts, Man commits an Injustice against God Almighty. Also by accepting what Contradicts his Faith and his Mind, the reality that there is no God except One God. This God cannot be two gods or three gods, even according to the explanation of Christians. All the signs and proofs totally point to this Faith: The One, true indisputable fact, that in this Universe there is no God but the Creator alone.
“It is He (Allah) who is the only Ilah (God to be worshipped) in the heaven and the only Ilah (god to be worshipped) on the earth. And He is the All-Wise, the All-Knower.” Qur’aan 43:84
“And your Ilah (God), La ilaha illa Huwa (there is none who has the right to be worshipped but He), the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.” Qur’aan 2:163
For further explanation about the reality of the Trinity, let us read the Holy Qur’aan, the last and Final Revalation of God Almighty (Allah), the most Authentic book on the earth. Let us read what will clarify for us the clear and bright truth about the unsubstantial concept of the Trinity;
“Surely, disbeleivers are those who said: “Allah is the third of the three (in a Trinity).” But there is no Ilah (God) but One Ilah (God, i.e. Allah). And if they cease not from what they say, a painful torment will befall on the disbeleivers among them.” Qur’aan 5:73
If we really do respects our minds, we have to submit them to the will of Whom Alone Created them, to Whom Alone deserves to be worshipped, to the Creator and Sustainer of the heavens and the earth, to Allah the Almighty. Exalted is He above the great falsehood that they say.
The Monotheism
ReplyDelete(Oneness of God)
The Oneness and uniqueness of God (Allah) is the message of all prophets and messengers. Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, down to the last and final messenger of Allah, Muhammad, peace be upon them. None of them called to himself or to anyone or things to be worshipped other than the Creator and Sustainer of the Heaven and the Earth.
In reality, when we talk about the Oneness of the Creator, we are only talking an indisputable fact. This fact is natural and is already infused into our souls, there is no way to deny it.
“so set thou thy face truly to religion Hanif (of Islamic Monotheism), Allah’s Fitrah (Natural Way) with which He has Created mankind: No change let there be in the religion of Allah; that is the straight Religion: but most among mankind know not” Qur’aan 30:30
There are many evidences that can show us the impossibility of the existence of more than one God. Here are just two;
1.) The faultless system of the Universe: The uniformity and compatibility of the orbit, planets, etc! In this marvelous harmony is strong evidence. This tells us the One who made this wonderful system is Alone, and can not be two or three. Multiplicity can never create such an amazing system. Particularly if this multiplicity concerns the most important topic in the Universe, the topic of Creation:
“Had there been therein (in the heavens and the earth) gods besides Allah, Then verily, both would have been ruined. Glorified is Allah, the Lord of the Throne, (High is He) above all that (evil) they associate with Him!” Qur’aan 21:22
2.) The Ability to Create: anyone who claims Himself to be as a God, must be able to prove His claim through His ability for creation. The One Whom can create something from something else (like the fruit from the tree) and can create something from nothing, therefore will be (god) The Creator. We should know that anyone or anything other than Almighty God is the creation of God. All creatures are created by the Creator.
ReplyDelete“Is then He, who Creates as one who creates not? Will you not then remember?” Qur’aan 16:17
“...Or do they assign to God partners who created the like of His creation so that the creation (which they made and His creation) seemed alike to them? Say: God is the Creator of all things, and He is the One the Irresistable.” Qur’aan 13:16
For anyone who is interested to know the clear truth about the Oneness of our Creator and he is anxiously seeking his salvation on the Day of Judgement, the signs of the One and only True God [John 17:3-4 at John 5:24 “Sinasabi ko ('meaning po si Jesus') sa inyo ang katotohanan, ang dumirinig sa aking salita, ('na nangagaling sa Dios') at sumasampalataya sa kanya na nagSUGO sa akin ('meaning po ang Dios na nagsugo kay jesus'), ay may buhay na walang hanggan, at hindi na sya hahatulan. ('eh papaano po iyong mga hindi sumasampalataya sa nagSUGO kay jesus? may kaligtasan po ba sila?' basa po tayo ng talata sa Bibliya mga kaibigan; Matt. 7:21 and I quote; 'Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of Heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. verse 22: Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 'ano po kaya ang kasagutan ni kristo sa mga kristyanong ito mga kaibigan?' ipagpatuloy po natin ang ating pagbabasa mga kaibigan; verse 23: And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you; depart from me, ye that work iniquity: ang linaw-linaw po mga kaibigan ang kausap po ni Kristo sa tagpo po'ng iyan ay mga Kristyano; na ang sabi pa ni Kristo hindi kailan man nya kilala. so papaano na po iyan Mr. Cenon Bibe? na ultimo si Kristo eh nandirito mismo at nakasulat at malinaw na mababasa mula sa inyong Bibliya ay ipinagkakaila kayo!) Lumipat na sya sa buhay mula sa kamatayan.”] are many and Clear in the Universe.
“Is not He (better than your so-called gods) Who Originates Creation, and shall thereafter repeat it, and Who provides for you from heaven and earth? Is there any god with Allah? Say; “Bring forth your proofs, if your truthful.” Qur’aan 27:64
Hahahahahahaha! ano daw po yon brod? may bagong ipinalit itong si Mr. Cenon Bibe sa kanyang Bibliya? at ang ipinalit nitong si Mr. Cenon Bibe sa kanyang Bibliya eh ang GOOGLE? hahahahahahaha! ang Yahoo ba Mr. Cenon Bibe hindi pwede? hehehehehe! ayan po Mr. Cenon Bibe mga kaibigan, siksik ang liglig daw po sya ng ano kaya? kayo na lamang po ang bahalang humusga sa taong ito mga kaibigan!
ReplyDeleteMr. Anonymous, Siguro po ay nakalimutan nyo banggitin kung kanino po iniaddress ng Panginoong Hesus yung Matt. 7, baka malabo na mata nyo, hehehe, o baka nagbubulagbulagan kayo, o baka naman kayo ang tinutukoy dito....BULAANG PROPETA! , MAGIISI-ISIP KA MUNA BAGO KA MAKAPANLINLANG. Iyon po ang topic ng verse na iyon, Makikilala sa gawa! Mat 7:15-20 " Magiingat kayo sa mga bulaang propeta, nag sisilapit sila sa inyo animoy maamong tupa, ngunit ang totooy mababangis na asong-gubat. Makikilala ninyo sila sa kanilang mga gawa... ang bawat puno na di nagbubunga ng mabuti ay pinuputol at itinatapon sa apoy. kaya nga, makikilala ninyo sa kanilang mga gawa ang mga bulaang propeta." tuloy sa inyong binnangit at karugtong ng Ebangheyong yaon. Mat 7: 21...
ReplyDeletesila ang hindi kilala ng Panginoon , yaong mga BULAANG PROPETA!