DEBATE: "The Quran is the Word of God"

FOLLOWING is MY DEBATE with a MUSLIM on the QURAN
Conducted on January 9, 2013
Over FACEBOOK: "DEBATE! (ISLAM"qur-an" VS CHRISTIAN"bible") (RC VS INC)"

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MUSLIM-CHRISTIAN DEBATE

Mhumar Ismael Muallam, a MUSLIM, has AGREED to DEBATE with ME, CENON BIBE, a CATHOLIC-CHRISTIAN.

The TOPIC is "THE QURAN IS THE WORD OF GOD."

MUALLAM will TAKE THE AFFIRMATIVE SIDE.

I, CENON, WILL TAKE THE NEGATIVE SIDE.

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MAY I REQUEST MHUMAR ISMAEL MUALLAM to POST HIS POSITIVE REPLY AFFIRMING OUR DEBATE.

CENON BIBE:
Mhumar Ismael Muallam, AFFIRM HERE.

MHUMAR ISMAEL MUALLAM:
yIt is an established, undeniable fact that the Prophet Muhammad, upon him be peace and blessings, was unlettered. Whereas the Quran, which he brought, has challenged all mankind with all their literary geniuses and scientists, from the first day of its revelation to the Last Day, to produce a like of it or even a single chapter of it...

If you are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down onto Our servant (Muhammad), then produce a chapter of the like thereof, and call your witnesses, supporters, who are apart from God, if you are truthful. (al-Baqara, 2.23)

the revelation of the Quran lasted 23 years. It is inconceivable that any book written by a mortal being in 23 years, one which is a book of Divine truths, metaphysics, religious beliefs and worship, prayer, law and morality, a book fully describing th...See More

The Quran is beyond compare from the viewpoint of its styles and eloquence. All the sentences, words and even letters used in the Quran form such a miraculous harmony that, with respect to rhythm, music, and even geometric proportions and mathematical measures, and with respect to how many times each is used in the whole of the Quran, each is in the exact place it must be and interwoven and interrelated with others. The literary masterpiece of no one, including the sayings of the Prophet himself, upon him be peace and blessings, cannot compete with the Quran.

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CENON BIBE:
I WILL ASK MY CROSS EXAMINATION QUESTION.

YOU CLAIM that the QURAN is the "WORD OF GOD."

WHICH WORD or LETTER of the QURAN DID GOD SPEAK TO YOUR PROPHET MUHAMMAD?

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MHUMAR ISMAEL MUALLAM:
god send through angel gabriel...

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CENON BIBE:
Mhumar Ismael Muallam, ANGEL?

ARE YOU SAYING THAT GOD DID NOT SAY ANY WORD of the QURAN to YOUR PROPHET?

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MHUMAR ISMAEL MUALLAM:
Sherkhan Kimsap- pang kinder lang tu...

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MHUMAR ISMAEL MUALLAM:
that is the choice of god send through angel gabriel...

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CENON BIBE:
Mhumar Ismael Muallam, so, YOU ARE SAYING that GOD NEVER SPOKE ANY WORD of the QURAN to YOUR PROPHET?

Is that YOUR ANSWER?

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MHUMAR ISMAEL MUALLAM:
qur an is a book of telegram its a word of god send though angel gabriel...

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CENON BIBE:
Mhumar Ismael Muallam, PLEASE ANSWER my KINDER LEVEL QUESTION. DO NOT DIVERT THE TOPIC.

ARE YOU SAYING that GOD NEVER SPOKE ANY WORD of the QURAN to YOUR PROPHET?

YES or NO? YOU MAY EXPLAIN YOUR ANSWER

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MHUMAR ISMAEL MUALLAM:
no... he use angel gabriel to deliver the message...

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CENON BIBE:
Mhumar Ismael Muallam, THANK YOU for ADMITTING that GOD NEVER SPOKE a WORD of the QURAN to YOUR PROPHET.

Now, YOU CLAIM an "ANGEL" DELIVERED the MESSAGE.

WHO SAW or HEARD this "ANGEL" DELIVER the MESSAGE to YOUR PROPHET? PLEASE NAME THEM.

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MHUMAR ISMAEL MUALLAM:
prophet mohammad receive a message through angel gabriel he use to see angel gabriel in a human form...

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CENON BIBE:
Mhumar Ismael Muallam, DO NOT AVOID the QUESTION.

WHO SAW or HEARD this "ANGEL" DELIVER the MESSAGE to YOUR PROPHET? PLEASE NAME THEM.

Or ARE YOU SAYING that NO ONE SAW or HEAR this "ANGEL" DELIVER the MESSAGE of the QURAN to YOUR PROPHET?

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MHUMAR ISMAEL MUALLAM:
as a prophet he is the only authorized and a power given by god to see the angel...what a kinder question type

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CENON BIBE:
Mhumar Ismael Muallam, so, ARE YOU SAYING that NO ONE SAW or HEAR this "ANGEL" DELIVER the MESSAGE of the QURAN to YOUR PROPHET?

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MHUMAR ISMAEL MUALLAM:
as a prophet he is the only one has the right or power given by god thats why he is a prophet...

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CENON BIBE:
Mhumar Ismael Muallam, so, ARE YOU SAYING that NO ONE SAW or HEARD this "ANGEL" DELIVER the MESSAGE of the QURAN to YOUR PROPHET?

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MHUMAR ISMAEL MUALLAM:
no one because he is the only prophet of god hehe

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CENON BIBE:
Mhumar Ismael Muallam, TO RECAP:

1. YOU ADMIT that GOD NEVER SPOKE A WORD of the QURAN to YOUR PROPHET.

2. YOU ADMIT that NO ONE SAW or HEARD this "ANGEL" DELIVER the MESSAGE of the QURAN to YOUR PROPHET.

Now, THERE IS NO REASON or PROOF that the QURAN is the WORD OF GOD.

IT is ONLY THE CLAIM of YOUR PROPHET that THE QURAN is the WORD OF GOD. RIGHT?

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MHUMAR ISMAEL MUALLAM:
as a prophet of god yes...

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CENON BIBE:
Mhumar Ismael Muallam, so YOU are ADMITTING that the QURAN as the "WORD of GOD" is ONLY A CLAIM of YOUR PROPHET?

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MHUMAR ISMAEL MUALLAM:
since he is the prophet yes...

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CENON BIBE:
Mhumar Ismael Muallam, THANK YOU.

YOU have ADMITTED that

1. GOD NEVER SPOKE a WORD of the QURAN.

That ADMISSION ITSELF PROVES that the QURAN is NOT THE WORD of GOD.

2. THERE is NO PROOF that an "ANGEL" DELIVERED the MESSAGE of the QURAN.

That ADMISSION PROVES that the STORY about this "ANGEL" is DOUBTFUL or DUBIOUS and CANNOT BE BELIEVED.

3. The BELIEF that the QURAN is the "WORD OF GOD" is ONLY A CLAIM of YOUR PROPHET.

That further PROVES that the QURAN is NOT the WORD OF GOD but ONLY A CLAIM of YOUR PROPHET.

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CENON BIBE:
Mhumar Ismael Muallam, the SUMMATION of YOUR PRESENTATION now STANDS as MY PRESENTATION that the QURAN is NOT THE WORD OF GOD.

It is YOU who PROVED that the QURAN IS NOT THE WORD OF GOD.

YOU HAVE DEFEATED YOUR STAND.

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CENON BIBE:
Mhumar Ismael Muallam, HERE IS the PROOF that YOU LOST the DEBATE

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MHUMAR ISMAEL MUALLAM:
i have a proof that you lost the debate...

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CENON BIBE:
Mhumar Ismael Muallam, SHOW YOUR PROOF.

the SIMPLE TRUTH is YOU ADMITTED that GOD NEVER SPOKE a WORD in the QURAN.

YOU YOURSELF PROVED and ADMITTED that the QURAN is NOT the WORD OF GOD

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MHUMAR ISMAEL MUALLAM:
GOD NEVER DIRECTLY SPOKE TP PROPHET...BUT ITS A WORD OR A MESSAGE GIVEN TO PROPHET MOHAMMAD THROUGH ANGEL GABRIEL...

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CENON BIBE:
Mhumar Ismael Muallam, again YOU ADMIT that GOD NEVER SPOKE to YOUR PROPHET. MEANING, YOUR QURAN DOES NOT ANY WORD SPOKEN BY GOD.

Quran galing lang kay Muhammad, sabi ng Balik Islam

MAGANDA po ang SINABI ng BALIK ISLAM kaugnay sa KANILANG QURAN.

Heto po ang POST NIYA sa COMMENTS SECTION ng ARTIKULO NATIN na Relihiyon ng Balik Islam galing sa Diyos? sa ARAW at ORAS po na "26 JULY 2010 17:46."

BALIK ISLAM:

* [Holy] Quran : Top Scientists Comments on Scientific Miracles in the Quran * # Faith and Science #

LINK...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUUPYs0gElU&feature=related

Christian Scientist Confirm Quran is TRUE!

LINK...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOYpjZywUPA&feature=related

Everybody knows that Qur'an comes only from Muhammad if this Educated Personalities like Scientist herein says those WORDS in favour to the Muslims Qur'an, who are you to judged? Are you much educated than these Personalities herein? Kong tutousin nga isa kayong Tambak na mga Tanga! Na kahit sarili ninyong Bibliya ay wala kayong kakayahan para unawain ito!

CENON BIBE:
TAKE NOTE po ang SINABI ng BALIK ISLAM ay "Everybody knows that Qur'an COME ONLY FROM MUHAMMAD..."

CORRECT! AGREE po AKO sa PAG-AMIN ng BALIK ISLAM KUNG KANINO LANG GALING ang QURAN.

Kaya nga po tila AMINADO na ang BALIK ISLAM na HINDI ang DIYOS ang NAGBIGAY ng QURAN e. Tama po ba?

SIYA na MISMO ang NAGSABI na SA PROPETA LANG NILA GALING ang QURAN.

Kaya po ba HINDI MAPATUNAYAN NITONG BALIK ISLAM na sa DIYOS GALING MISMO ang LAMAN ng QURAN?

TUTUGMA po SINABI NIYA sa SINABI ng BIBLIYA sa Is29:13, ang mga ARAL NILA ay GALING LANG sa TAO at HINDI SA DIYOS.

Sabi po sa Is29:13
"The Lord said: Since THIS PEOPLE DRAWS NEAR WITH WORDS ONLY and HONORS ME WITH THEIR LIPS ALONE, though their hearts are far from me, And THEIR REVERENCE FOR ME HAS BECOME ROUTINE OBSERVANBCE OF THE PRECEPTS OF MEN..."



Ngayon, sabi po ng BALIK ISLAM,
"if this Educated Personalities like Scientist herein says those WORDS in favour to the Muslims Qur'an, who are you to judged?"

Frankly, WE DON'T CARE ABOUT WHATEVER these "EDUCATED PERSONALITIES" SAY.

WHAT WE CARE ABOUT is WHAT GOD SAYS.

Sa INYO NA ang mga OPINYON ng mga SIYENTIPIKO NINYO.

Ang MAHALAGA sa AMIN ay KUNG GALING MISMO sa DIYOS ang ARAL o GAWA LANG ng TAO.

Ang MALINAW ay NEVER NINYO MAPATUNAYAN na DIYOS MISMO ang NAGBIGAY ng mga ARAL NINYO. Kaya nga NAGBABATAY NA LANG KAYO sa OPINYON ng TAO. TAMA?

Ngayon, NAG-BALIK ISLAM NA BA ang mga SIYENTIPIKO na YAN?

HINDI? BAKIT HINDI?

KUNG TALAGANG NANINIWALA ang mga SIYENTIPIKO na TUNAY ang QURAN e BAKIT HINDI PA SILA mag-BALIK ISLAM?

E kasi po MALAMANG ay BINOBOLA LANG SILA ng mga SIYENTIPIKO na IYAN.

NAGPABOLA NAMAN SILA.

KAWAWA TALAGA ang mga BALIK ISLAM na ITO. Pinag-BOBOLA NA LANG ng KUNG SINU-SINO.


NAGYABANG pa po ang BALIK ISLAM. Sabi niya,
"Kong tutousin nga isa kayong Tambak na mga Tanga! Na kahit sarili ninyong Bibliya ay wala kayong kakayahan para unawain ito!"

KAMI? TANGA?

SINO BA ang NANINIWALA LANG sa OPINYON ng mga TAO dahil HINDI NILA MAPATUNAYAN na GALING SA DIYOS ang mga ARAL NILA?

Hindi po ba ANG NAGBABATAY LANG sa OPINYON ng TAO--KAHIT PA SIYENTIPIKO YAN--ang TANGA?

HINDI MAILILIGTAS ng OPINYON ng SIYENTIPIKO ang KALULUWA ng TAO.

NAKAKAAWA TALAGA ng mga BALIK ISLAM na ITO.