Showing posts with label My God My God Why Have You Forsaken Me?. Show all posts
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Sunday, January 26, 2014

Matthew 27:46, Mark 15:34 (Jesus Called On the Muslim God?)

A MUSLIM, Ahmad Sha Untong, shared his MISCONCEPTION about MATTHEW 27:46 and MARK 15:34.

Untong said JESUS (the Christian God) CALLED on the GOD OF MUSLIMS.

This MUSLIM said:

"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? " (Matthew 27:46).

"And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? " (Mark 15:34).

According to these parallel verses,

1. Jesus has a God.
2. Jesus claimed that he is forsaken by his God.

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Ahmad Sha Untong, ALLOW ME to REPEAT the CORRECTION to YOUR MISCONCEPTION of MATTHEW 27:46 and MARK 15:34.

The WORDS of the LORD JESUS in the TWO PARALLEL VERSES are NOT A DENIAL of HIS DIVINITY, as YOU WRONGLY CLAIM.

In the TWO VERSES, the LORD JESUS was QUOTING PSALM 22:2 (PSALM 22:1), the SONG OF THE OPPRESSED.

PSALM 22:2 READS:
My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from helping me, from the words of my groaning?

WHY did JESUS QUOTE PSALM 22:2?

JESUS wanted to SHOW HIS UNITY with the OPPRESSED.

JESUS was TELLING the OPPRESSED: "DO NOT DESPAIR. YOU are NOT ALONE. I, GOD, AM WITH YOU. I, GOD, SUFFER WITH YOU."

JESUS was only STRESSING the MEANING of HIS "NAME" EMMANUEL, which means GOD IS WITH US.

MATTHEW 1:23
"Look, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall name him EMMANUEL," which means, "GOD IS WITH US."

In MATTHEW 1:23 (ISAIAH 7:14), GOD STRESSED that HE IS WITH US. WE are NOT LEFT ORPHANED. (JOHN 14:18)

That is why GOD HIMSELF BECAME MAN and SHARED in our HUMANITY. (JOHN 1:1, 14)

In SHARING in OUR HUMANITY, GOD WENT ALL THE WAY, by SHARING in OUR SUFFERINGS and even in OUR DEATH.

And, as GOD SAID IT in MATTHEW 27:46 and MARK 15:34, HE also SHARED in the OPPRESSION that WE BEAR.

THAT is the MEANING of "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? " (Matthew 27:46).

"And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? " (Mark 15:34).

THAT is NOT a DENIAL that JESUS is GOD.

THAT is a CONFIRMATION that GOD is TRULY WITH THOSE who BELIEVE and ACCEPT HIM.

I PRAY that YOU WILL ALSO ACCEPT GOD BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.

I DO NOT WANT YOUR SOUL to GO to HELL.

Monday, November 18, 2013

Jesus Not God because He also "has a God"?

MUSLIM Ben Langcuyan has a problem with my assertion that GOD IS ALL POWERFUL THAT'S WHY HE BECAME MAN IN THE PERSON OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.

Ben Langcuyan said:
"Bibe presented above a VERY INCONSISTENT CLAIM --- that God became a man and that man is called Jesus.

Now, granting without conceding --- that God became a man and that man is called Jesus.

The problem Bibe is facing now is --- Jesus is still claiming that he has a God. Note of his following lines:

'... our God is one. ...'

'... my God, my God, why has Thou forsaken me?'

'... to my God and your God. To my Father and your Father.'

It's pretty clear now, using logic and Biblical claims, that the claim of Bibe that the God became a man --- completely BASELESS!!!

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There is NOTHING INCONSISTENT with the ALL-POWERFUL GOD BECOMING MAN.

The INCONSISTENCY is in the CLAIM of MUSLIMS that THEIR GOD is ALL-POWERFUL and YET IS POWERLESS to BECOME MAN.

Now, Ben Langcuyan cited several VERSES that he claimed SHOWS that the LORD JESUS CANNOT BE GOD.

Ben Langcuyan SIMPLY JUST DOES NOT UNDERSTAND the PROCLAMATION of the LORD JESUS that HE HAS a GOD.

HIS LACK of UNDERSTANDING SHOWS in the EXAMPLES HE GAVE.

1. '... our God is one. ...' is taken from the OLD TESTAMENT, where the LORD JESUS simply QUOTED DEUTERONOMY 6:4.

HE actually REFERRED to HIMSELF when HE CITED DEUT 6:4.

DEUT 6:4 refers to the GOD "I AM" who REVEALED HIS NAME to MOSES in EXODUS 3:13-14.

The LORD JESUS said that HE is the "I AM." (JOHN 8:58)

So, He was even PROCLAIMING HIS DIVINITY when He cited DEUT 6:4.

2. '... my God, my God, why has Thou forsaken me?' THIS is NOT a PRAYER of the LORD JESUS CALLING on GOD the FATHER.

This text from MATTHEW 27:46 was BORROWED by the LORD JESUS from PSALM 22:2, which is known as a PRAYER of the OPPRESSED.

The LORD JESUS used this verse to HIGHLIGHT HIMSELF as "GOD WITH US." (MATTHEW 1:23)

He was telling the OPPRESSED that GOD HIMSELF is WITH THOSE who are OPPRESSED, and that GOD was SUFFERING WITH THEM.

So, again, the LORD JESUS was only PROCLAIMING HIS OWN DIVINITY when He used PSALM 22:2 in MATTHEW 27:46.

3. '... to my God and your God. To my Father and your Father.' - In this verse from JOHN 20:17, the LORD JESUS STRESSED that HIS GOD is also HIS FATHER.

If GOD is the FATHER of the LORD JESUS, then the LORD JESUS is STRESSING HIS DIVINITY, for the SON of GOD naturally TAKES the NATURE of HIS FATHER.

Thus, if GOD is the FATHER of the LORD JESUS, then the LORD JESUS is also DECLARING that HE IS GOD.

So, INSTEAD of DIMINISHING the DIVINITY of the LORD JESUS, the VERSES that Ben Langcuyan CITED ONLY SUPPORT the belief that HE IS GOD.

Ben Langcuyan just DOES NOT UNDERSTAND the VERSES that HE USED.