Cenon Bibe 'napakabobo' at 'walang utak'?

BIGYANG daan po natin itong COMMENT ng isang BALIK ISLAM na inilagay niya sa ilalim ng isa pang artikulo natin.


Sabi po ng BALIK ISLAM:

Assalam u alaikum bro napapansin nyo po ba ang mga pangangatwiran nitong si Mr. Cenon Bibe mga kaibigan? napakababaw po, tila pangangatwiran ng isang taong hindi nag iisip at walang utak!

CENON BIBE:
Kung ako po ay taong "hindi nag iisip at walang utak!" hindi po ba DAPAT AY NATUTULAN NINYO ang mga SINASABI KO?

Patunay po na HINDI KAYO MAKATUTOL ay DINADAAN NA LANG NINYO sa PANGUNGUTYA ang reaksyon ninyo e.

Kung HINDI PO NINYO MATUTULAN ang mga PALIWANAG at PAHAYAG ng isang "hindi nag iisip at walang utak" e ANO NA PO KAYO? Ibig po ninyong sabihin ay MAS MASAHOL PA KAYO sa isang "hindi nag iisip at walang utak"?

Nagtatanong lang po dahil tila po HINDI NINYO INIISIP ang mga SINASABI NINYO. May utak naman po yata kayo, di ba? O baka naman ...



BALIK ISLAM:

iyan po si Mr. Cenon Bibe mga kaibigan; don't waste your time bro in this kind of thinking from Mr. Cenon Bibe napakaBobo po talaga nitong si Mr. Cenon Bibe mga kaibigan!

CENON BIBE:
Ayun, "napakaBobo" ko raw po pero HINDI NIYA MASAGOT at HINDI NIYA MATUTULAN ang mga sinasabi ko. Kaya nga po MINUMURA na lang NIYA tayo e dahil WALA SIYANG MAISAGOT.

Sana po ay MAG-ISIP naman KAHIT KONTI itong BALIK ISLAM na reactor natin.



BALIK ISLAM:

biruin nyo po ang sabi nitong tanga at mangmang na si Mr. Cenon Bibe mga kaibigan papalitan nya raw po ang salitang Allah sa arabic bible ng Jesus or Isah then Cenon Bibe is quoting and stupidly changing some words from Al-Ikhlas napakalaking katangahan po ang ginagawa nitong si Mr. Cenon Bibe na iyon mga kaibigan;

CENON BIBE:
SINO po ba ang NAGPUMILIT na ang TUNAY na ALLAH ay ang DIYOS sa BIBLIYA? Ako po ba?

Ang DAPAT pong PUNAHIN at PAGSABIHIN nitong BALIK ISLAM na ito ay ang KAPATID NIYA na PILIT na ISINASAKSAK ang DIYOS NILA sa BIBLIYA.

Hindi po kasi nila matanggap na HINDI KINILALA ng BIBLIYA at ng mga PROPETA roon ang KANILANG DIYOS. Ni HINDI nga po BINANGGIT ang ALLAH NILA sa BIBLIYA, hindi po ba?

Iyan po ang dahilan kung bakit NGITNGIT na NGITNGIT itong BALIK ISLAM.

Ang tanong ko nga po sa kanila ay KAYO BA ay PINANSIN man lang ng DIYOS NINYO?

Naitanong ko po iyan dahil HINDI MASAGOT nitong mga BALIK ISLAM kung KINAUSAP MAN LANG BA NANG DIREKTA ng DIYOS NILA ang KANILANG PROPETA.

HINDI rin po MASAGOT nitong mga BALIK ISLAM KUNG DIYOS MISMO ang NAGTAYO ng KANILANG RELIHIYON.

HINDI rin MASAGOT nitong mga BALIK ISLAM KUNG DIYOS MISMO ang NAGBIGAY ng mga ARAL na KANILANG SINUSUNOD sa NGAYON.

At dahil HINDI NILA MASAGOT KUNG DIREKTA SILANG KINAUSAP o PINANSIN ng DIYOS ay PILIT SILANG NAKIKI-DIYOS o NAKIKI-ALLAH sa DIYOS (ALLAH) ng BIBLIYA.

Sa BIBLIYA po kasi ay DIREKTANG KINAUSAP ng NAG-IISANG TUNAY na DIYOS ang mga PROPETA ng BIBLIYA. DIREKTA ring IBINIGAY ng DIYOS ng BIBLIYA ang mga ARAL na dapat sundin ng mga TAO.

WALA pong MAIPAKITANG GANYAN ang mga BALIK ISLAM kaya siguro IPINAGPIPILITAN NILANG ANGKININ ang DIYOS o ALLAH ng BIBLIYA.

Sa madaling salita ay TILA DESPERADO NA itong mga BALIK ISLAM na ito.

Muli po, HINDI KINILALA at HINDI BINANGGIT ng BIBLIYA ang DIYOS NILA kaya HUWAG na NILANG IPAGPILITAN iyon. NAGKAKAPROBLEMA LANG SILA LALO.



BALIK ISLAM:

doon po sa pag quote po nya sa surah na iyon ay parang inilalahad nya na rin po ang kanyang kamangmangan at katangahan! "..... He begetteth, not nor he is begotten;(3) And there is none like unto Him"(4)

CENON BIBE:
Nagpapakita raw po ako ng "kamangmangan at katangahan."

Kung ako po yung "mangmang" at "tanga" e BAKIT SIYA ang tila HINDI ALAM na HINDI NAMAN SURAH ng QURAN ang BINANGGIT NILANG "AL IKHLAS."

Ang TUNAY pong AL-IKHLAS ay TANGING sa ARABIC MABABASA at MASASAMBIT. Bahagi po kasi iyan ng QURAN (Surah 112) na TANGING sa ARABIC MABABASA at MASASAMBIT.

SINO po ang GUSTO NIYANG LINLANGIN?

Masasabi po ba niya RITO nang TUWIRAN at TAPATAN na ang SURAT AL IKHLAS o AL TAUHID ay NARARAPAT na SAMBITIN sa INGLES?

HINTAYIN po NATIN ang SAGOT NIYA.



MUSLIM:

Mga kaibigan sa punto pong iyan magtatanong po tayo kay Mr. Cenon Bibe mga giliw na taga subaybay kong ginagamitan nya po ba ng tamang unawa at isip ang kanyang mga pinagsasabi?

CENON BIBE:
Siguro naman po sa KATOTOHANAN na HINDI NILA MASAGOT at HINDI NILA MATUTULAN ang mga SINASABI NATIN ay ALAM na NATIN kung SINO ang WALA sa TAMANG KAISIPAN at kung SINO ang HINDI NAG-IISIP.


MUSLIM:

ang mga nasabing talata po ba ay akma para kay Jesus mga kaibigan? Mr. Cenon Bibe mag isip ka naman, hindi yong bira ka nalang ng bira eh! ayan tuloy nahilalahad yang katangahan at kamangmangan mo!

CENON BIBE:
Una po ay WALA AKONG PINALITAN at WALA rin AKONG SINABI na ang AL IKHLAS ay DAPAT ILAPAT sa PANGINOONG HESUS.

AKO po ay NAGTANONG doon sa BALIK ISLAM na KAUSAP natin. Sabi ko:
"PUWEDE NA PO BA nating i-SUBSITUTE ang PANGALAN ng PANGINOONG HESUS (ISA sa arabic) sa binanggit ninyong talata:"

Kung TUMIGIL man lang sandali at NAG-ISIP itong BALIK ISLAM ay NAKITA SANA NIYA na NAGTATANONG TAYO at HINDI GUMAGAWA ng DEKLARASYON.

Ano po ang PUNTO ng PAGTATANONG NATIN?

Gusto ko pong MATIYAK kung NANINIWALA itong BALIK ISLAM sa IPINAGPIPILITAN NIYA na ang TUNAY na ALLAH ay ang DIYOS ng BIBLIYA.

Kung isasagot po kasi niya na HINDI PUWEDENG I-SUBSTITUTE ang HESUS sa ALLAH o GOD sa AL IKHLAS ay LALABAS na MALI ang IGINIGIIT NIYA na ang ALLAH NILA ay ang NASA BIBLIYA.

Mapatutunayan na TAMA TAYO na HINDI nga NABANGGIT ang KANILANG ALLAH sa BANAL na KASULATAN.

Kapag sinabi naman po niya na "PUWEDE NANG I-SUBSTITUTE" ang ISA (arabic ng HESUS) sa AL IKHLAS ay lalabas na MAGKAKAROON ng KONTRAHAN.

Doon po kasi sa sinabi niyang talata ay sinabi na ang ALLAH ay "He begetteth (NAGKAANAK), NOT nor is He begotten (IPINANGANAK);"

Ibig sabihin KAKONTRA NA iyan ng ALLAH na NASA BIBLIYA na NAGKA-ANAK at NAGING ANAK.

Nakikita po ba ninyo ang punto?

Kung IPAGPIPILITAN nitong BALIK ISLAM na ang ALLAH NILA ang NASA BIBLIYA, lalabas na KINOKONTRA niyon ang ALLAH na nasa kanilang QURAN, hindi po ba?

At KUNG MAGKAKONTRA, NANGANGAHULUGAN LANG na ang ALLAH ng BIBLIYA ay HINDI ang ALLAH ng ISLAM.

'Yon po ang punto ng aking TANONG kaugnay sa SUBSTITUTION sa Al Ikhlas.

Ngayon, marahil ay AAMININ NA nitong BALIK ISLAM na ang KANILANG ALLAH ay HINDI TALAGA KINILALA at HINDI MAN LANG BINANGGIT sa BIBLIYA.

Salamat po.

Jesus proves to the devil that He is God

NAG-TEXT po sa atin si Kareembill@yahoo.com at hinahanap ang sagot natin dito. Naantala po ang ating sagot dahil marami pong ibang nagtatanong sa atin.

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Sabi po ng Muslim na tila si kareembill@yahoo.com nga:

Jesus Attest That Bowing Down is for Allah Alone

CENON BIBE:
Tila DESPERADO po o matindi ang IMAHINASYON nitong MUSLIM na REACTOR natin. NEVER pong binanggit ng PANGINOONG HESUS ang KANILANG ALLAH.


MUSLIM (kareembill@yahoo.com?):

7. After Satan showed Jesus all the kingdoms of the world, he ask Jesus to bow down to him! Satan said; (All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me). Jesus replied by saying: (Get thee hence, Satan; for it is written, thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve). This text refutes the False Christian Belief, in Jesus being a God:

CENON BIBE:
On the contrary. The verse PROVES that Jesus is God.

In these verses, Mt4:8-11, the devil wanted Jesus, God the Son, to bow down and worship him (the devil). The response of Jesus reverses the dialogue.

When Jesus told the devil that "thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve," Jesus was actually telling the devil that the devil should instead bow down and worship Jesus, who is God.

In Pilipino, parang sinasabi ni Hesus na "Bakit kita sasambahin? Ako na Diyos ang dapat mong yukuran at sambahin."

We should remember the context, it was between the devil and Jesus. The devil was trying to put down Jesus so Jesus, God the Son, showed that He was far superior than the devil.




MUSLIM (kareembill@yahoo.com?):

a.) Satan showed, and then offered, Jesus the kingdoms of the world. If Jesus was God, or the son of God, he will say to Satan: "I own them (all the kingdoms of earth). I created them. They are mine and under my control!" Satan would not have dared to say to God: "I will give you all this if you fall down for me!!"

CENON BIBE:
How did Jesus respond?

Jesus ordered the devil, "Go away, Satan!"

With that response, the Lord Jesus did not just proclaim ownership and authority over everything, Jesus showed His power and authority over the devil himself who was claiming ownership over them.

Parang sinabi ng Panginong Hesus na "Anong iyo yan? Lumayas ka nga sa harap ko. Umaangkin ka lang ng hindi sa iyo."

Again, who would have power over the devil? Can a simple man do that?

No! Only God can command spiritualities, especially the devil. And in Mt4:8-11, God the Son exercised power over the devil by casting him away.

PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE GOD!



MUSLIM (kareembill@yahoo.com?):

b.) Satan ordered God, the Creator of the heavens and earth, to bow down for him!! Do not the Christians feel Shame when they read that Jesus, their claimed God, is accompanied by and tempted to worship Satan in return for God owning the world's kingdoms?

CENON BIBE:
Why should Christians feel shame if the devil or his minions pretend to have power over Jesus, the Son of God?

It is the devil and those who claim that Jesus is not God who should be ashamed. They insist that Jesus is not God and yet the Lord Himself kicked the devil out.

PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE GOD! ALLELUIA!

Christians should instead feel proud because the Lord Jesus showed the devil who's boss. Jesus, God the Son, is boss. That's why Jesus threw the devil out.

PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE GOD!


MUSLIM (kareembill@yahoo.com?):

c.) If Jesus was God, or the son of God, he would not have answered such an outrageous offer, from Satan, by quoting books of previous Messengers: (Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve). Is there more plain and clear evidence that Jesus was calling for the worship of God, the Creator of the heavens and earth, and that he was worshipping and bowing down to Allah, Alone, all praises be to Him?

CENON BIBE:
The problem with people like this MUSLIM or BALIK ISLAM (ISLAMIC REVERT) is that they fool themselves by not reading the entire text.

Did Jesus not respond to the devil's pretenses?

What stronger response can there be than the Son of God ordering the devil to leave?

In Pilipino, parang sinabi ni Hesus sa demonyo, "Tama na yang kwento mo. Lumayas ka sa harap ko. Wala kang kwentang kausap."

I am surprised that his BALIK ISLAM is not ashamed of his assertions, in the same way that the devil never felt shame in confronting God the Son.

Anyway, those who try to go against God will fall in shame.



MUSLIM (kareembill@yahoo.com?):

The above is enough evidence that Jesus came to say what Allah has informed us about him: ("And the Messiah (Jesus) said: "O children of Israel! Worship Allah (or God) my Lord and your Lord." Verily, whoever sets up partners in worship with Allah, then Allah has forbidden Paradise for him, and Fire will be his abode. And for the Zalimun (polytheists and wrongdoers) there are no helpers.") Q.5:72

CENON BIBE:
This BALIK ISLAM is making a claim that he cannot prove.

According to this BALIK ISLAM, it was "ALLAH" who "informed us about him" (Jesus).

Where and when did "ALLAH" talk to them or even their prophet and reveal anything about anything, especially about the Lord Jesus?

We have been asking members of the BALIK ISLAM to TELL US WHEN and WHERE GOD HIMSELF TALK to their PROPHET. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GIVE AN ANSWER. WHY? Is it because GOD NEVER TALKED TO THEIR PROPHET?

If GOD NEVER TALKED TO THEIR PROPHET, HOW CAN THIS BALIK ISLAM EVEN CLAIM that it was "ALLAH:" who "informed us" about the LORD JESUS?

We CHRISTIANS can be PROUD because GOD HIMSELF REVEALED HIMSELF TO US. It was GOD HIMSELF who ESTABLISHED THE CHRISTIAN FAITH. And it was GOD HIMSELF who GAVE US HIS TEACHINGS. NO OTHER RELIGION CAN CLAIM THAT.

We have asked this BALIK ISLAM to TRY and PROVE that he, too, can make such a claim but HE HAS FAILED TO PROVE ANYTHING.

Why? You already probably know the answer.




MUSLIM (kareembill@yahoo.com?):

d.) Satan give up on Jesus and left. Satan's inability to tempt Jesus is considered an acceptance of what Mary's mother asked of Allah, which is stated in the Qur'an: (She said: "O my Lord! I have delivered a female child" __ and Allah know better what she delivered__ "And the male is not like the female, and I have name her Mary, and I seek refuge with you (Allah) for her and for her offspring from Satan, the outcast.) Q.3:36

CENON BIBE:
Now, the BALIK ISLAM is CONTRADICTING HIMSELF. At first, he was claiming that the devil was lording it over the SON OF GOD. Now, the BALIK ISLAM is ADMITTING that Satan was unable to tempt Jesus.

PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE GOD!

If only this BALIK ISLAM would not PRETEND TO BE SO BLIND, he would already be PROCLAIMING that JESUS is INDEED GOD.

He is now claiming that the ENGLISH TEXT that he gave is from the QURAN. He is making a FALSE CLAIM and is trying to pass off a LIE as truth.

NO INFORMED MUSLIM in his right mind would claim that an ENGLISH TEXT is FROM THE QURAN. They know very well that the QURAN can only exist in the ARABIC LANGUAGE.

According to MUSLIMS-in-the-know, YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE QURAN if you DO NOT READ OR UNDERSTAND ARABIC. It CANNOT be TRANSLATED in YOUR LANGUAGE because YOUR LANGUAGE is INFERIOR. So, how can a BALIK ISLAM (convert into Islam) make such a FALSE CLAIM?

Probably this BALIK ISLAM (kareembill@yahoo.com) thinks that he can fool us.




MUSLIM (kareembill@yahoo.com?):

Mary's offspring is Jesus, the slave and Messenger of Allah. Allah protected him from Satan, from his birth and through adulthood, and so Allah's word in the Qur'an come true.

CENON BIBE:
HOW could MARY, who was a JEW, ask the help of an ARABIC GOD?

Perhaps, MARY NEVER EVEN HEARD of the ARAB DIETY.

And HOW COULD SHE? The GOD of ISLAM was only proclaimed by it prophet beginning in 610 AD or 610 YEARS AFTER MARY was CHOSEN by GOD to BEAR JESUS, the SON OF GOD.

This BALIK ISLAM is making SO MANY FALSE and ABSURD CLAIMS.

Why? Only he knows.




MUSLIM (kareembill@yahoo.com?):

8. The Bible said: (Then the devil leaveth him, and behold, angels came and ministered unto him.) This is another proof that Jesus was a Slave (of Allah). Whoever needs to be ministered is a slave who is poor and in need.

CENON BIBE:
And SINCE WHEN did we hear of a SLAVE BEING SERVED or MINISTERED TO by the VERY ANGELS OF GOD?

The FACT that ANGELS OF GOD came to SERVE JESUS PROVES that JESUS is GOD.

Maybe this BALIK ISLAM knows something that we dont.

Please correct me if I am wrong but don't they claim that their prophet was also a "slave of Allah."

If yes, then may we ask this BALIK ISLAM to POINT TO ONE INCIDENT where the "ANGEL JIBRIL" MINISTERED or SERVED their PROPHET.

I am tempted to invite you to wait for a response but I doubt if this BALIK ISLAM could show any proof that "JIBRIL" SERVED THEIR PROPHET.

Please take note of this RIDICULOUSLY ABSURD CLAIM of this BALIK ISLAM (kareembill@yahoo.com?).

He said, "Whoever needs to be ministered is a slave who is poor and in need."

The ISLAMIC SCHOLAR ABDULLAH YUSUF ALI in many instances claims that people "SERVE" their God.

In YUSUF ALI'S INTERPRETATION of Surah 3:30, he said:

"And Allah is full of kindness to those that SERVE Him."

Again, in S3:182, YUSUF ALI says, "For Allah never harms those who SERVE Him."

What does that mean? Their God is being SERVED by MERE HUMANS. Does that mean that the Islamic God is "a slave who is poor and in need"?

Can you see the ABSURDITY of this BALIK ISLAM'S claims?

This BALIK ISLAM (kareembill@yahoo.com?) SHOULD BE ASHAMED of HIMSELF.




MUSLIM (kareembill@yahoo.com?):

The angels came by the order of Allah, not Jesus, to minister Jesus. They did not come to worship him. Allah is worshipped, and not ministered, by the angels. Allah is the Ever-Living, the Capable who sustains everything else. The angels need God, and are poor without Him, (Allah or God) but Allah is the Most Rich, all praises be to Him.

CENON BIBE:
And WHERE DID IT SAY THAT "ALLAH" ORDERED HIS ANGELS to SERVE JESUS?

The ANGELS CAME to SERVE JESUS because JESUS is THE SON OF GOD and is GOD. CLEAR and SIMPLE.

This BALIK ISLAM is FOND of ADDING to the TEXT. He CAN'T SHOW any PROOF so HE INVENTS THEM by MAKING BASELESS CLAIMS. Why is that?

Don't ANGELS WORSHIP JESUS?

God HIMSELF has ORDERED ALL THE ANGELS to WORSHIP JESUS when GOD THE SON was BORN INTO THE WORLD. (Hebrews 1:6)

I won't stop this BALIK ISLAM from worshipping his ALLAH (that is his right. we respect other people's beliefs even if they don't respect ours) but he should stop making his God look like a KSP or KULANG SA PANSIN.

By ALWAYS trying to INSERT HIS GOD into the BIBLE, this BALIK ISLAM is TRYING HARD to make his GOD belong to the HOLY SCRIPTURES.

Wika nga po sa Pilipino, HUWAG IPAGPILITAN ANG WALA at HUWAG IPAGSIKSIKAN ang HINDI KASAMA.

This BALIK ISLAM (kareembill@yahoo.com?) should be ASHAMED of WHAT HE IS DOING.