Showing posts with label Eli Eli lema sabachthani. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Eli Eli lema sabachthani. Show all posts

Sunday, January 26, 2014

Matthew 27:46, Mark 15:34 (Jesus Called On the Muslim God?)

A MUSLIM, Ahmad Sha Untong, shared his MISCONCEPTION about MATTHEW 27:46 and MARK 15:34.

Untong said JESUS (the Christian God) CALLED on the GOD OF MUSLIMS.

This MUSLIM said:

"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? " (Matthew 27:46).

"And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? " (Mark 15:34).

According to these parallel verses,

1. Jesus has a God.
2. Jesus claimed that he is forsaken by his God.

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Ahmad Sha Untong, ALLOW ME to REPEAT the CORRECTION to YOUR MISCONCEPTION of MATTHEW 27:46 and MARK 15:34.

The WORDS of the LORD JESUS in the TWO PARALLEL VERSES are NOT A DENIAL of HIS DIVINITY, as YOU WRONGLY CLAIM.

In the TWO VERSES, the LORD JESUS was QUOTING PSALM 22:2 (PSALM 22:1), the SONG OF THE OPPRESSED.

PSALM 22:2 READS:
My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why are you so far from helping me, from the words of my groaning?

WHY did JESUS QUOTE PSALM 22:2?

JESUS wanted to SHOW HIS UNITY with the OPPRESSED.

JESUS was TELLING the OPPRESSED: "DO NOT DESPAIR. YOU are NOT ALONE. I, GOD, AM WITH YOU. I, GOD, SUFFER WITH YOU."

JESUS was only STRESSING the MEANING of HIS "NAME" EMMANUEL, which means GOD IS WITH US.

MATTHEW 1:23
"Look, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall name him EMMANUEL," which means, "GOD IS WITH US."

In MATTHEW 1:23 (ISAIAH 7:14), GOD STRESSED that HE IS WITH US. WE are NOT LEFT ORPHANED. (JOHN 14:18)

That is why GOD HIMSELF BECAME MAN and SHARED in our HUMANITY. (JOHN 1:1, 14)

In SHARING in OUR HUMANITY, GOD WENT ALL THE WAY, by SHARING in OUR SUFFERINGS and even in OUR DEATH.

And, as GOD SAID IT in MATTHEW 27:46 and MARK 15:34, HE also SHARED in the OPPRESSION that WE BEAR.

THAT is the MEANING of "Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? " (Matthew 27:46).

"And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? " (Mark 15:34).

THAT is NOT a DENIAL that JESUS is GOD.

THAT is a CONFIRMATION that GOD is TRULY WITH THOSE who BELIEVE and ACCEPT HIM.

I PRAY that YOU WILL ALSO ACCEPT GOD BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.

I DO NOT WANT YOUR SOUL to GO to HELL.

Monday, November 18, 2013

Jesus Not God because He also "has a God"?

MUSLIM Ben Langcuyan has a problem with my assertion that GOD IS ALL POWERFUL THAT'S WHY HE BECAME MAN IN THE PERSON OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST.

Ben Langcuyan said:
"Bibe presented above a VERY INCONSISTENT CLAIM --- that God became a man and that man is called Jesus.

Now, granting without conceding --- that God became a man and that man is called Jesus.

The problem Bibe is facing now is --- Jesus is still claiming that he has a God. Note of his following lines:

'... our God is one. ...'

'... my God, my God, why has Thou forsaken me?'

'... to my God and your God. To my Father and your Father.'

It's pretty clear now, using logic and Biblical claims, that the claim of Bibe that the God became a man --- completely BASELESS!!!

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There is NOTHING INCONSISTENT with the ALL-POWERFUL GOD BECOMING MAN.

The INCONSISTENCY is in the CLAIM of MUSLIMS that THEIR GOD is ALL-POWERFUL and YET IS POWERLESS to BECOME MAN.

Now, Ben Langcuyan cited several VERSES that he claimed SHOWS that the LORD JESUS CANNOT BE GOD.

Ben Langcuyan SIMPLY JUST DOES NOT UNDERSTAND the PROCLAMATION of the LORD JESUS that HE HAS a GOD.

HIS LACK of UNDERSTANDING SHOWS in the EXAMPLES HE GAVE.

1. '... our God is one. ...' is taken from the OLD TESTAMENT, where the LORD JESUS simply QUOTED DEUTERONOMY 6:4.

HE actually REFERRED to HIMSELF when HE CITED DEUT 6:4.

DEUT 6:4 refers to the GOD "I AM" who REVEALED HIS NAME to MOSES in EXODUS 3:13-14.

The LORD JESUS said that HE is the "I AM." (JOHN 8:58)

So, He was even PROCLAIMING HIS DIVINITY when He cited DEUT 6:4.

2. '... my God, my God, why has Thou forsaken me?' THIS is NOT a PRAYER of the LORD JESUS CALLING on GOD the FATHER.

This text from MATTHEW 27:46 was BORROWED by the LORD JESUS from PSALM 22:2, which is known as a PRAYER of the OPPRESSED.

The LORD JESUS used this verse to HIGHLIGHT HIMSELF as "GOD WITH US." (MATTHEW 1:23)

He was telling the OPPRESSED that GOD HIMSELF is WITH THOSE who are OPPRESSED, and that GOD was SUFFERING WITH THEM.

So, again, the LORD JESUS was only PROCLAIMING HIS OWN DIVINITY when He used PSALM 22:2 in MATTHEW 27:46.

3. '... to my God and your God. To my Father and your Father.' - In this verse from JOHN 20:17, the LORD JESUS STRESSED that HIS GOD is also HIS FATHER.

If GOD is the FATHER of the LORD JESUS, then the LORD JESUS is STRESSING HIS DIVINITY, for the SON of GOD naturally TAKES the NATURE of HIS FATHER.

Thus, if GOD is the FATHER of the LORD JESUS, then the LORD JESUS is also DECLARING that HE IS GOD.

So, INSTEAD of DIMINISHING the DIVINITY of the LORD JESUS, the VERSES that Ben Langcuyan CITED ONLY SUPPORT the belief that HE IS GOD.

Ben Langcuyan just DOES NOT UNDERSTAND the VERSES that HE USED.

Thursday, March 26, 2009

'Hesus humingi ng tulong sa Diyos'

BIGYANG daan po natin itong isa pang pagtutol ng isang Balik Islam sa pagka-Diyos ng ating Panginoong Hesu Kristo.

Sabi ng ating texter, “Hindi Diyos si Jesus. Siya mismo ay nanalangin at humingi ng tulong sa Diyos. Sabi Niya ‘Diyos ko, Diyos ko.’ So, paano mo nasabi na Diyos Siya?”

Salamat po sa ating texter.

Ang tinutukoy po ng ating texter ay ang mga salita ng ating Panginoon habang Siya ay nakapako sa krus ayon sa Matthew 27:46.

Sinasabi po riyan, “Bandang alas-tres ng hapon ay sumigaw si Hesus sa isang malakas na boses: Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani, na ang kahulugan ay: Diyos ko, Diyos ko, bakit mo ako pinabayaan?”

Sa simpleng pagtingin ay PARANG TUMATAWAG nga sa DIYOS ang ating Panginoong Hesus.

Ang tanong po ay PERSONAL bang PANALANGIN ni HESUS IYAN?

SORRY pero HINDI po. MALI lang po ang PAGKA-UNAWA ng ating texter sa sinasabi ng talata.

Sa totoo lang po ay MADALING MAUNAWAAN ang BIBLIYA, pero yun ay kung ALAM NATIN ang mga KONTEKSTO at KASAYSAYAN ng mga NILALAMAN niyan.

Sa mga HINDI ALAM ang KONTEKSTO at KASAYSAYAN ng BANAL na KASULATAN ay MALAMANG na MALITO SILA, MAGKAMALI NG UNAWA at MALIGAW pa sa kanilang PANINIWALA.

Halimbawa nga po sinabi ng Panginoon sa Mt 27:46. Para nga po Siyang nananalangin diyan, hindi po ba?

Pero MALI nga po.

Dahil kung pamilyar tayo sa iba pang sinasabi ng Bibliya ay malalaman natin na ang mga sinabi ni Hesus ay GALING SA PSALM 22:2.

Ang BUONG PSALM 22 ay PANALANGIN ng ISANG INOSENTENG INAAPI .

Sa madaling salita po, GINAGAMIT ni HESUS ang SALITA ng INOSENTENG INAAPI para IPAKITA na Siya ay NAKIKIISA sa mga API.

Sa PAGGAMIT ni HESUS sa SALITA ng INOSENTENG INAAPI ay parang sinasabi Niya sa isang INAAPI na: “HINDI KA NAG-IISA. KASAMA MO AKO.”

PURIHIN si HESUS! PURIHIN ang DIYOS!

Madali nating mauunawaan ang ginawa ni Hesus dahil ganyan tayong mga tao.

Kapag tayo ay NALULUNGKOT, inaawit natin ay SALITA ng KANTANG MALUNGKOT.


“Lonely, I’m Mr. Lonely ... I have nobody to call my own ...”


Kapag tayo ay BIGO sa PAG-IBIG, umaawit tayo at gumagamit ng SALITA at TUGTOG ng BIGO sa PAG-IBIG.

“Minsan, ang isang pangako ay maihahambing ... sa isang KASTILYONG BUHANGIN ...”

Kung tayo naman ay MASAYA ay halos ipagsigawan natin ang mga TITIK ng AWIT ng KAGALAKAN.

“Ang PUSO KO’Y NAGPUPURI, NAGPUPURI SA PANGINOON! NAGAGALAK ang AKING ESPIRITU saking TAGAPAGLIGTAS ...”

At kahit sa pagiging MAKABAYAN ay nagagamit natin ang mga SALITA ng mga NAGMAMAHAL sa BANSA.

“Ang BAYAN KONG PILIPINAS ... LUPAIN ng GINTO’T BULAKLAK ...”

GINAGAMIT natin ang mga SALITA ng IBA para MAKA-RELATE TAYO sa KANILA at MAIPAKITA na KAISA NILA TAYO at KASAMA sa anuman ang kanilang NARARAMDAMAN.

At iyan nga po ang dahilan kung bakit ISINIGAW ni HESUS ang mga PAUNANG TALATA ng PSALM 22 o ang AWIT ng INOSENTENG INAAPI.

SINASABI ni HESUS sa mga INOSENTENG INAAPI na “HUWAG KAYONG MALUNGKOT o MAWALAN ng PAG-ASA dahil KASAMA NINYO AKO.”

At ano naman po ang KAHALAGAHAN kung KASAMA ng mga INOSENTENG INAAPI si HESUS?

SIMPLE po. Ang sinasabi ni Hesus ay KASAMA ng mga INOSENTENG INAAPI ang DIYOS.

Paano nangyari na KASAMA nila ang DIYOS dahil sa mga SALITA ni HESUS?

Nangyayari po iyon dahil ang NAKIKIISA sa mga INAAPING INOSENTE ay ang mismong DIYOS na NAGKATAWANG TAO at NAKADANAS ng PANG-AAPI kahit na Siya ay WALANG KASALANAN.

HINDI lang po SINABI ng DIYOS na si HESUS na “KASAMA NINYO AKO.” GINAWA MISMO ni KRISTO na DANASIN ang KAAPIHAN ng mga TAONG PINAHIHIRAPAN kahit WALANG SALA.

HINDI po Siya TUMIGIL sa PAGKAKATAWANG TAO para IPAKITA na SIYA ang EMMANUEL o ang DIYOS na KASAMA NATIN (Mt 1:23).

Pati ang KAMATAYAN NATIN ay DINANAS NIYA para PATUNAYAN na TUNAY SIYANG KAISA NATIN.

Ngayon, HINDI po TUMIGIL si HESUS sa KAMATAYAN.

Si HESUS po ay NABUHAY na MULI (Mt 28:5) upang TAYO na NABINYAGAN sa KANYANG KAMATAYAN ay MAKASAMA naman NIYA sa PAGKAKAROON ng BAGONG BUHAY. (Romans 6:4)

PURIHIN si KRISTO! PURIHIN ang DIYOS!

So, iyan po ang kahulugan ng pagsambit ni Hesus ng “Diyos ko! Diyos ko!” sa Mt 27:46.

Salamat po.