Thursday, May 17, 2012

Muhammad No Read, No Write nga ba?

ISA sa sinasabi ng mga Balik Islam para papaniwalain ang tao na propeta ng Diyos si Muhammad ay ang pagiging "No read, No write" daw ng kanilang sugo.

At dahil daw "illiterate" si Muhammad ay patunay daw iyan sa "miracle of the Quran." Hindi raw magagawa ng kanilang propeta na gawin lang ang Quran dahil hindi ito marunong bumasa o sumulat. Kaya proof daw iyan na sa Diyos galing ang kanilang Kasulatan.

Ganito ang mababasa natin sa http://www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_vision.htm, isang website ng mga Muslim.

"Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was illiterate. His entire life he never learned to read nor write."


"Indeed, the Qur'an was revealed to a man who could neither read nor write so that it might be apparent to mankind that he could not have received it from the writings of man, but only from God Almighty."

Makikita po natin diyan na mahalaga sa kanila ang paniniwala na hindi marunong bumasa at sumulat ang kanilang propeta. Iyan daw po ang patunay na hindi gawa-gawa ni Muhammad ang Quran.

Ang Quran daw ay hindi lang nabasa o kinopya ng kanilang propeta mula sa ibang isinulat ng tao kundi galing daw sa Diyos.





MUHAMMAD MARUNONG BUMASA AT SUMULAT
Pero iba ang sinasabi ng mga Hadith, ang kinikilalang opisyal na kwento ng buhay ng propeta ng Islam.


Maraming mga Hadith at iba't-iba ang uri nito. Ang pinakapinagkakatiwalaan ay ang tinatawag na SAHIH o AUTHENTIC.

Dalawa sa mga AUTHENTIC na Hadith ay ang SAHIH AL BUKHARI at SAHIH MUSLIM.




• May pruweba sa Hadith na MARUNONG MAGBASA at MAGSULAT ang propeta ng Islam.
 

Sabi sa Sahih Al Bukhari Book 52, Hadith 191:
“Narrated Abdullah bin Abbas: Allah's Apostle WROTE to Caesar and invited him to Islam…”

Iyan ba ang “no read no write”? Sumulat pa sa Caesar ayon sa Hadith.
 

Kung nakakasulat si Muhammad ay natural lang na NAKAKABASA rin siya, tama po ba?



Sa isa pang pagkakataon ay naiulat ang sinabi ni bin Abbas:
"Narrated 'Abdullah bin Abbas: Allah's Apostle WROTE a letter to Caesar saying, "If you reject Islam, you will be responsible for the sins of the peasants (i.e. your people)."  (Book #52, Hadith #187)






SI MUHAMMAD MISMO ANG NAGSULAT

MISMONG Propeta Muhammad ng mga Muslim ang NAGPATUNAY na MARUNONG SIYANG SUMULAT.

Sabi sa BUKHARI Book 70, Hadith 573:

“Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: [narrated] … the prophet said, "Come, LET ME WRITE for you a statement after which you will not go astray."
 

Diyan ay malinaw na sinabi mismo ni Muhammad na nakakasulat siya. So, hindi siya “no read no write” tulad ng itinuturo ng ilang mangangaral na Muslim.

Kung sasabihin ng mga Muslim na may sinasabi sa Quran na “ummi” o “illiterate” si Muhammad ay ano ang ibig sabihin noon? Mali ba ang unawa nila sa “ummi” o kontra-kontra ang sinasabi ng Quran at Hadith? Alin sa dalawa?

Kayo na ang pumili.



• Dahil nakakasulat at nakakabasa si Muhammad ay paano pa yan magiging batayan sa sinasabing “miracle” ng Quran.

• Kung sasabihin ninyo na “haka-haka” ang Hadith ay paki deklara ninyo nang malinaw para klaro sa lahat ng narito.




MARAMING PATUNAY
Ang katotohanan na marunong magbasa at sumulat si Muhammad ay pinatutunayan ng iba pang ulat sa Hadith Bukhari.

Book 3, Hadith 114
Narrated 'Ubaidullah bin 'Abdullah: Ibn 'Abbas said, "When the ailment of the prophet became worse, he said, 'Bring for me (writing) paper and I will write for you a statement after which you will not go astray.'



BooK 53, Hadith 393
Narrated Said bin Jubair: that he heard Ibn 'Abbas saying, "Thursday! And you know not what Thursday is? After that Ibn 'Abbas wept till the stones on the ground were soaked with his tears. On that I asked Ibn 'Abbas, "What is (about) Thursday?" He said, "When the condition (i.e. health) of Allah's Apostle deteriorated, he said, 'Bring me a bone of scapula, so that I may write something for you after which you will never go astray.'

Book 3, Hadith 65

Narrated Anas bin Malik: Once the Prophet wrote a letter or had an idea of writing a letter. The Prophet was told that they (rulers) would not read letters unless they were sealed. So the Prophet got a silver ring made with "Muhammad Allah's apostle" engraved on it. As if I were just observing its white glitter in the hand of the Prophet
 
Book 49, Hadith 863
So, Allah's Apostle took the document and wrote, 'This is what Muhammad bin 'Abdullah has agreed upon:
Book 89, Hadith 302
After that Allah's apostle wrote a letter to the Jews in that respect  ...

 Batay po sa mga patotoo na iyan ng Hadith na kinikilala at tinatanggap ng mga Muslim, masasabi ba nila na "no read, no write" ang kanilang propeta?

14 comments:

  1. Let's us assume that you have a billion of "Hadith" "pointing" Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) to be literate (as a EVIDENCE), we (Muslims) are not foolish to accept and believe that. Why? We believe in the Qur'an and "reliable Hadith" and examples of the Last Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). The Qur'an said:


    (My mercy is for) those who follow the messenger, the prophet who can neither read nor write. They will find him mentioned in their scriptures, the Torah and the gospels. He orders them to do the right thing, and to avoid the wrong. He makes the pure and the wholesome lawful for them, and he forbids them the foul and the filthy. He relieves them of the burdens and the shackles with which they were bogged down. Successful indeed, are those who believe in him, honor and help him, and follow the light (the Qur’an) that was revealed to him. --- (Qur'an 7:157)


    (Oh Muhammad, SAW), say, “Oh mankind! I am certainly the messenger of Allah towards you all _ (the entire world). To Him belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth. There is no god but He. It is He Who gives life. And He gives death! So believe in Allah and His messenger, the prophet who can neither read nor write, and who believes in Allah and His words (the commandments). Follow him, so that you may receive guidance.” --- (Qur'an 7:158)


    He it is, Who raised in an unlettered nation a messenger in their midst, the one who recites to them His verses, cleanses and purifies them, and teaches them the book and the wisdom. Prior to that, they were clearly lost and astray! --- (Qur'an 62:2)

    For "better" translations of the Qur'an:

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/quran_search.htm

    For "reliable Hadith":

    http://www.answering-christianity.com/hadith_search.htm

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  2. DEFENDERBEN (ISLAMIC DEFENDER) SAID:
    Let's us assume that you have a billion of "Hadith" "pointing" Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) to be literate (as a EVIDENCE), we (Muslims) are not foolish to accept and believe that. Why? We believe in the Qur'an and "reliable Hadith" and examples of the Last Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)


    CENON BIBE:
    First, YOU MEAN HADITH SAHIH BUKHARI is NOT RELIABLE?

    THAT'S YOUR DECLARATION.

    THANK YOU.


    Second, YOU are SHOWING the GREAT CONTRADICTION BETWEEN the QURAN and the SAHIH HADITH.


    IT IS GOOD that THIS IS COMING FROM A MUSLIM.

    NO NEED to REFUTE YOUR ADMISSIONS.

    THANKS.

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  3. CENON BIBE:
    First, YOU MEAN HADITH SAHIH BUKHARI is NOT RELIABLE?

    THAT'S YOUR DECLARATION.

    THANK YOU.

    My Reply:

    No. What I clearly said is: (Any) "Hadith" (that arise) "pointing" Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) to be literate (is NOT reliable). I didn't say: HADITH SAHIH BUKHARI is NOT RELIABLE. It is just you who want me to say it, I bit.

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    Cenon Bibe:
    Second, YOU are SHOWING the GREAT CONTRADICTION BETWEEN the QURAN and the SAHIH HADITH.


    IT IS GOOD that THIS IS COMING FROM A MUSLIM.

    NO NEED to REFUTE YOUR ADMISSIONS.

    THANKS.

    My Reply: Holy Quran is the literal Words of God. “Hadith” on the other hand, is not. So whatever “Hadith” that arises that is CLEARLY against Quran, Islam and Allah (subhanahu wa taAllah) is NOT RELIABLE, DEFINITELY. Even it was come from SAHIH SAHIH SAHIH SAHIH SAHIH SAHIH SAHIH Hadith.
    Many “Hadith” today are forged, Cenon. So be careful. You are always/occasionally on debates. Again CAREFUL with materials (evidence) you are using, coz it will just make you and object of mockery. Didn’t I send you a link about the story of Hadith?

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    1. DEFENDERBEN (ISLAMIC DEFENDER) SAID:
      No. What I clearly said is: (Any) "Hadith" (that arise) "pointing" Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) to be literate (is NOT reliable). I didn't say: HADITH SAHIH BUKHARI is NOT RELIABLE. It is just you who want me to say it, I bit.


      CENON BIBE:
      It was HADITH SAHIH BUKHARI that POINTED OUT that MUHAMMAD was LITERATE.

      YOU HAVE FAILED to DENY or REFUTE THAT.

      Now, with YOUR DECLARATION that a HADITH that SAYS MUHAMMAD is LITERATE is NOT RELIABLE, then YOU ARE DECLARING HADITH SAHIH BUKHARI as NOT RELIABLE.

      It's simple addition, Ben.



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      DEFENDERBEN (ISLAMIC DEFENDER) SAID:
      Holy Quran is the literal Words of God.


      CENON BIBE:
      I'm SORRY but NO MUSLIM--INCLUDING YOU--has PROVEN that the QURAN contained any WORDS OF GOD.

      In fact, YOU CANNOT EVEN POINT to ONE WORD that GOD SUPPOSEDLY TOLD YOUR PROPHET MUHAMMAD.

      YOU ARE LIVING in a DREAM, BEN.



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      DEFENDERBEN (ISLAMIC DEFENDER) SAID:
      “Hadith” on the other hand, is not. So whatever “Hadith” that arises that is CLEARLY against Quran, Islam and Allah (subhanahu wa taAllah) is NOT RELIABLE, DEFINITELY. Even it was come from SAHIH SAHIH SAHIH SAHIH SAHIH SAHIH SAHIH Hadith.


      CENON BIBE:
      So, THANK YOU for AGREEING with ME about the GLARING CONTRADICTIONS BETWEEN the QURAN and the SAHIH or AUTHENTIC HADITHS.



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      DEFENDERBEN (ISLAMIC DEFENDER) SAID:
      Many “Hadith” today are forged, Cenon. So be careful. You are always/occasionally on debates. Again CAREFUL with materials (evidence) you are using, coz it will just make you and object of mockery. Didn’t I send you a link about the story of Hadith?


      CENON BIBE:
      So, now YOU are DECLARING HADITH SAHIH BUKHARI as FORGED?

      I CANNOT DISAGREE with YOU.

      COMING from a MUSLIM, THAT is a BIG BLACKEYE to one of the BASIS of ISLAMIC BELIEFS.

      But THANK YOU for ADMITTING this CONTRADICTION BETWEEN YOUR QURAN and HADITHS.

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  4. Before I leave, please note that, if that materials/evidence of yours is "REALLY" from Al-Bukhari, I do not mean that all the Hadith under Al-Bukhari (or any other Hadith collections) are NOT RELIABLE.

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    1. Well, that is YOUR CONTRADICTING BELIEF about HADITH SAHIH BUKHARI.

      If ONE PART of SAHIH BUKHARI is NOT RELIABLE then HOW CAN the OTHER PARTS be RELIABLE?

      Doesn't that SHOW the CONFUSION in MUSLIMS?

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  5. This will help you, http://www.mostmerciful.com/hadithbook-sectionone.htm

    I hope I'm helpful with that.

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    1. MY SOURCE for the HADITH SAHIH BUKHARI that PROVES MUHAMMAD to be LITERATE is www.searchtruth.com, a MUSLIM SITE.

      IT is NOT SURPRISING that MUSLIMS are FIGHTING EACH OTHER over YOUR BELIEFS. The SOURCES of ISLAMIC BELIEFS are ALSO CONTRADICTORY--ACCORDING TO YOU.

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  6. lol....may tagasulat po siya si Zaid bin Thabit...... hindi po porke nabasa natin na Write/Wrote ay siya na ang sumulat...

    Halimbawa ikaw ay nagpasulat at ang ilalagay mo na pangalan ng sumulat ay siyempre ikaw, so ikaw ang sumulat.

    lahat ng mga haka haka mo d2 puro bulok...

    kung magaling ka sa biblya mas mabuti kung 1 on 1 tayo sa personalan... tga san ka ng mabisita kta.....

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    1. PINALABAS pa NINYONG SINUNGALING ang PROPETA ng ISLAM.

      Mismong PROPETA ng ISLAM ang NAGSABI na SIYA ANG SUSULAT e, tapos sabi ninyo na MAY TAGASULAT?

      ETO po ang GINAGAWA NINYONG SINUNGALING:

      Book 3, Hadith 114
      Narrated 'Ubaidullah bin 'Abdullah: Ibn 'Abbas said, "When the ailment of the prophet became worse, he said, 'Bring for me (writing) paper and I will write for you a statement after which you will not go astray.'


      SINO daw po ang MAGSUSULAT?

      Ang PROPETA ng ISLAM.

      Sabi NIYA, "I WILL WRITE."

      Kung NAGPASULAT ay ganito dapat "I WILL TELL ZAID BIN THABIT to WRITE."

      Kaso po HINDI YAN ang SINABI, di po ba?

      O baka gusto ninyong palabasin na HINDI MARUNONG GUMAWA ng SIMPLE SENTENCE and PROPETANG YAN?

      WAG KAYO MANIRA ng PROPETA ng ISLAM. MASAMA YAN.



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      Eto pa po:
      Book 49, Hadith 863
      So, Allah's Apostle took the document and wrote, 'This is what Muhammad bin 'Abdullah has agreed upon:


      KINUHA ng PROPETA ng ISLAM ang DOKUMENTO at NAGSULAT SIYA.

      NAPAKALINAW po.

      O baka naman po GUSTO NINYONG BALUKTUTIN ang SINASABI ng HADITH.

      Sabagay, HINDI YAN IGINAGALANG ng IBANG MUSLIM. Kaya nga HINDI RIN NINYO IGINAGALANG.

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  7. Narrated Zayd ibn Thabit:
    The Apostle of Allah () ordered me (to learn the writing of the Jews), so I learnt for him the writing of t
    he Jews. He said: I swear by Allah, I do not trust Jews in respect of writing for me. So I learnt it, and only a fortnight passed that . I mastered it. I would write for him when he wrote (to them), and read to him when something was written to him.

    حَدَّثَنَا أَحْمَدُ بْنُ يُونُسَ، حَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ أَبِي الزِّنَادِ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ خَارِجَةَ، - يَعْنِي ابْنَ زَيْدِ بْنِ ثَابِتٍ - قَالَ قَالَ زَيْدُ بْنُ ثَابِتٍ أَمَرَنِي رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَتَعَلَّمْتُ لَهُ كِتَابَ يَهُودَ وَقَالَ " إِنِّي وَاللَّهِ مَا آمَنُ يَهُودَ عَلَى كِتَابِي " . فَتَعَلَّمْتُهُ فَلَمْ يَمُرَّ بِي إِلاَّ نِصْفُ شَهْرٍ حَتَّى حَذَقْتُهُ فَكُنْتُ أَكْتُبُ لَهُ إِذَا كَتَبَ وَأَقْرَأُ لَهُ إِذَا كُتِبَ إِلَيْهِ .

    Reference: Sunan Abi Dawud 3645
    In-book reference: Book 26, Hadith 5
    English translation: Book 25, Hadith 3638


    hahay.... mga isip ka muna....

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    1. AYUN, kapag NAGPASULAT ay MALINAW na SINASABI na "NAGPASULAT."

      Sabi ni ZAID BIN THABIT: "I WOULD WRITE FOR HIM ..."

      DIREKTANG SINABI na SI ZAID ang MAGSUSULAT.

      And TAKE NOTE that this is in regard to the LANGUAGE and WRITING of the JEWS.

      Sa Book 3, Hadith 114 ay MALINAW at DIREKTA ring SINABI na SI MUHAMMAD ang NAGSULAT.

      Narrated 'Ubaidullah bin 'Abdullah: Ibn 'Abbas said, "When the ailment of the prophet became worse, he said, 'Bring for me (writing) paper and I will write for you a statement after which you will not go astray.'

      Diyan ay HINDI TUNGKOL sa mga HUDYO ang ISUSULAT kundi tungkol sa mga TAGASUNOD ni MUHAMMAD. Sa madaling salita ay sa ARABIC.

      So, MALINAW na ALAM ng PROPETA NINYO na MARUNONG SIYANG MAGSULAT at MAGBASA sa ARABIC.

      HINDI SIYA ILLITERATE tulang ng sinasabi ng iba.

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  8. TZK.. D pla to mkaintindi eh...

    I do not trust Jews in respect of writing for me

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    1. KAYA nga po pagdating sa mga HUDYO ay SI ZAID BIN THABIT ang SUMUSULAT at NAGBABASA. WALANG TIWALA si MUHAMMAD sa mga HUDYO.

      Pero PAGDATING sa ARABIC ay MARUNONG si MUHAMMAD MAGSULAT at MAGBASA.

      HINDI NINYO MATUTUTULAN YAN. Nasa HADITH NINYO YAN e. MISMONG SALITA ng PROPETA NINYO YAN.

      Kaya po MALI ang ITINUTURO ng IBA na ILLITERATE si MUHAMMAD.

      HINDI SIYA ILLITERATE. MARUNONG SIYA MAGSULAT at MAGBASA, lalo na ng ARABIC.

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