Friday, December 11, 2009

Jesus proves to the devil that He is God

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Sabi po ng Muslim na tila si kareembill@yahoo.com nga:
Jesus Attest That Bowing Down is for Allah Alone

CENON BIBE:
Tila DESPERADO po o matindi ang IMAHINASYON nitong MUSLIM na REACTOR natin. NEVER pong binanggit ng PANGINOONG HESUS ang KANILANG ALLAH.


MUSLIM (kareembill@yahoo.com?):
7. After Satan showed Jesus all the kingdoms of the world, he ask Jesus to bow down to him! Satan said; (All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me). Jesus replied by saying: (Get thee hence, Satan; for it is written, thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve). This text refutes the False Christian Belief, in Jesus being a God:

CENON BIBE:
On the contrary. The verse PROVES that Jesus is God.

In these verses, Mt4:8-11, the devil wanted Jesus, God the Son, to bow down and worship him (the devil). The response of Jesus reverses the dialogue.

When Jesus told the devil that "thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve," Jesus was actually telling the devil that the devil should instead bow down and worship Jesus, who is God.

In Pilipino, parang sinasabi ni Hesus na "Bakit kita sasambahin? Ako na Diyos ang dapat mong yukuran at sambahin."

We should remember the context, it was between the devil and Jesus. The devil was trying to put down Jesus so Jesus, God the Son, showed that He was far superior than the devil.




MUSLIM (kareembill@yahoo.com?):
a.) Satan showed, and then offered, Jesus the kingdoms of the world. If Jesus was God, or the son of God, he will say to Satan: "I own them (all the kingdoms of earth). I created them. They are mine and under my control!" Satan would not have dared to say to God: "I will give you all this if you fall down for me!!"

CENON BIBE:
How did Jesus respond?

Jesus ordered the devil, "Go away, Satan!"

With that response, the Lord Jesus did not just proclaim ownership and authority over everything, Jesus showed His power and authority over the devil himself who was claiming ownership over them.

Parang sinabi ng Panginong Hesus na "Anong iyo yan? Lumayas ka nga sa harap ko. Umaangkin ka lang ng hindi sa iyo."

Again, who would have power over the devil? Can a simple man do that?

No! Only God can command spiritualities, especially the devil. And in Mt4:8-11, God the Son exercised power over the devil by casting him away.

PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE GOD!



MUSLIM (kareembill@yahoo.com?):
b.) Satan ordered God, the Creator of the heavens and earth, to bow down for him!! Do not the Christians feel Shame when they read that Jesus, their claimed God, is accompanied by and tempted to worship Satan in return for God owning the world's kingdoms?

CENON BIBE:
Why should Christians feel shame if the devil or his minions pretend to have power over Jesus, the Son of God?

It is the devil and those who claim that Jesus is not God who should be ashamed. They insist that Jesus is not God and yet the Lord Himself kicked the devil out.

PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE GOD! ALLELUIA!

Christians should instead feel proud because the Lord Jesus showed the devil who's boss. Jesus, God the Son, is boss. That's why Jesus threw the devil out.

PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE GOD!


MUSLIM (kareembill@yahoo.com?):
c.) If Jesus was God, or the son of God, he would not have answered such an outrageous offer, from Satan, by quoting books of previous Messengers: (Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve). Is there more plain and clear evidence that Jesus was calling for the worship of God, the Creator of the heavens and earth, and that he was worshipping and bowing down to Allah, Alone, all praises be to Him?

CENON BIBE:
The problem with people like this MUSLIM or BALIK ISLAM (ISLAMIC REVERT) is that they fool themselves by not reading the entire text.

Did Jesus not respond to the devil's pretenses?

What stronger response can there be than the Son of God ordering the devil to leave?

In Pilipino, parang sinabi ni Hesus sa demonyo, "Tama na yang kwento mo. Lumayas ka sa harap ko. Wala kang kwentang kausap."

I am surprised that his BALIK ISLAM is not ashamed of his assertions, in the same way that the devil never felt shame in confronting God the Son.

Anyway, those who try to go against God will fall in shame.



MUSLIM (kareembill@yahoo.com?):
The above is enough evidence that Jesus came to say what Allah has informed us about him: ("And the Messiah (Jesus) said: "O children of Israel! Worship Allah (or God) my Lord and your Lord." Verily, whoever sets up partners in worship with Allah, then Allah has forbidden Paradise for him, and Fire will be his abode. And for the Zalimun (polytheists and wrongdoers) there are no helpers.") Q.5:72

CENON BIBE:
This BALIK ISLAM is making a claim that he cannot prove.

According to this BALIK ISLAM, it was "ALLAH" who "informed us about him" (Jesus).

Where and when did "ALLAH" talk to them or even their prophet and reveal anything about anything, especially about the Lord Jesus?

We have been asking members of the BALIK ISLAM to TELL US WHEN and WHERE GOD HIMSELF TALK to their PROPHET. THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GIVE AN ANSWER. WHY? Is it because GOD NEVER TALKED TO THEIR PROPHET?

If GOD NEVER TALKED TO THEIR PROPHET, HOW CAN THIS BALIK ISLAM EVEN CLAIM that it was "ALLAH:" who "informed us" about the LORD JESUS?

We CHRISTIANS can be PROUD because GOD HIMSELF REVEALED HIMSELF TO US. It was GOD HIMSELF who ESTABLISHED THE CHRISTIAN FAITH. And it was GOD HIMSELF who GAVE US HIS TEACHINGS. NO OTHER RELIGION CAN CLAIM THAT.

We have asked this BALIK ISLAM to TRY and PROVE that he, too, can make such a claim but HE HAS FAILED TO PROVE ANYTHING.

Why? You already probably know the answer.




MUSLIM (kareembill@yahoo.com?):
d.) Satan give up on Jesus and left. Satan's inability to tempt Jesus is considered an acceptance of what Mary's mother asked of Allah, which is stated in the Qur'an: (She said: "O my Lord! I have delivered a female child" __ and Allah know better what she delivered__ "And the male is not like the female, and I have name her Mary, and I seek refuge with you (Allah) for her and for her offspring from Satan, the outcast.) Q.3:36

CENON BIBE:
Now, the BALIK ISLAM is CONTRADICTING HIMSELF. At first, he was claiming that the devil was lording it over the SON OF GOD. Now, the BALIK ISLAM is ADMITTING that Satan was unable to tempt Jesus.

PRAISE JESUS! PRAISE GOD!

If only this BALIK ISLAM would not PRETEND TO BE SO BLIND, he would already be PROCLAIMING that JESUS is INDEED GOD.

He is now claiming that the ENGLISH TEXT that he gave is from the QURAN. He is making a FALSE CLAIM and is trying to pass off a LIE as truth.

NO INFORMED MUSLIM in his right mind would claim that an ENGLISH TEXT is FROM THE QURAN. They know very well that the QURAN can only exist in the ARABIC LANGUAGE.

According to MUSLIMS-in-the-know, YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE QURAN if you DO NOT READ OR UNDERSTAND ARABIC. It CANNOT be TRANSLATED in YOUR LANGUAGE because YOUR LANGUAGE is INFERIOR. So, how can a BALIK ISLAM (convert into Islam) make such a FALSE CLAIM?

Probably this BALIK ISLAM (kareembill@yahoo.com) thinks that he can fool us.




MUSLIM (kareembill@yahoo.com?):
Mary's offspring is Jesus, the slave and Messenger of Allah. Allah protected him from Satan, from his birth and through adulthood, and so Allah's word in the Qur'an come true.

CENON BIBE:
HOW could MARY, who was a JEW, ask the help of an ARABIC GOD?

Perhaps, MARY NEVER EVEN HEARD of the ARAB DIETY.

And HOW COULD SHE? The GOD of ISLAM was only proclaimed by it prophet beginning in 610 AD or 610 YEARS AFTER MARY was CHOSEN by GOD to BEAR JESUS, the SON OF GOD.

This BALIK ISLAM is making SO MANY FALSE and ABSURD CLAIMS.

Why? Only he knows.




MUSLIM (kareembill@yahoo.com?):
8. The Bible said: (Then the devil leaveth him, and behold, angels came and ministered unto him.) This is another proof that Jesus was a Slave (of Allah). Whoever needs to be ministered is a slave who is poor and in need.

CENON BIBE:
And SINCE WHEN did we hear of a SLAVE BEING SERVED or MINISTERED TO by the VERY ANGELS OF GOD?

The FACT that ANGELS OF GOD came to SERVE JESUS PROVES that JESUS is GOD.

Maybe this BALIK ISLAM knows something that we dont.

Please correct me if I am wrong but don't they claim that their prophet was also a "slave of Allah."

If yes, then may we ask this BALIK ISLAM to POINT TO ONE INCIDENT where the "ANGEL JIBRIL" MINISTERED or SERVED their PROPHET.

I am tempted to invite you to wait for a response but I doubt if this BALIK ISLAM could show any proof that "JIBRIL" SERVED THEIR PROPHET.

Please take note of this RIDICULOUSLY ABSURD CLAIM of this BALIK ISLAM (kareembill@yahoo.com?).

He said, "Whoever needs to be ministered is a slave who is poor and in need."

The ISLAMIC SCHOLAR ABDULLAH YUSUF ALI in many instances claims that people "SERVE" their God.

In YUSUF ALI'S INTERPRETATION of Surah 3:30, he said:

"And Allah is full of kindness to those that SERVE Him."

Again, in S3:182, YUSUF ALI says, "For Allah never harms those who SERVE Him."

What does that mean? Their God is being SERVED by MERE HUMANS. Does that mean that the Islamic God is "a slave who is poor and in need"?

Can you see the ABSURDITY of this BALIK ISLAM'S claims?

This BALIK ISLAM (kareembill@yahoo.com?) SHOULD BE ASHAMED of HIMSELF.




MUSLIM (kareembill@yahoo.com?):
The angels came by the order of Allah, not Jesus, to minister Jesus. They did not come to worship him. Allah is worshipped, and not ministered, by the angels. Allah is the Ever-Living, the Capable who sustains everything else. The angels need God, and are poor without Him, (Allah or God) but Allah is the Most Rich, all praises be to Him.

CENON BIBE:
And WHERE DID IT SAY THAT "ALLAH" ORDERED HIS ANGELS to SERVE JESUS?

The ANGELS CAME to SERVE JESUS because JESUS is THE SON OF GOD and is GOD. CLEAR and SIMPLE.

This BALIK ISLAM is FOND of ADDING to the TEXT. He CAN'T SHOW any PROOF so HE INVENTS THEM by MAKING BASELESS CLAIMS. Why is that?

Don't ANGELS WORSHIP JESUS?

God HIMSELF has ORDERED ALL THE ANGELS to WORSHIP JESUS when GOD THE SON was BORN INTO THE WORLD. (Hebrews 1:6)

I won't stop this BALIK ISLAM from worshipping his ALLAH (that is his right. we respect other people's beliefs even if they don't respect ours) but he should stop making his God look like a KSP or KULANG SA PANSIN.

By ALWAYS trying to INSERT HIS GOD into the BIBLE, this BALIK ISLAM is TRYING HARD to make his GOD belong to the HOLY SCRIPTURES.

Wika nga po sa Pilipino, HUWAG IPAGPILITAN ANG WALA at HUWAG IPAGSIKSIKAN ang HINDI KASAMA.

This BALIK ISLAM (kareembill@yahoo.com?) should be ASHAMED of WHAT HE IS DOING.

4 comments:

  1. The Bibles Testimony that Jesus is the Slave-Servant, and Messeger of Allah or God

    Nazareth Refuses Jesus (Part 1)

    ( And Jesus retured in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about. And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all. And he came to Narazeth, were he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogues on the Sabbath day, and stood up for to read. And there was delivered unto him the book of the Prophet Esaias, and when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written, The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the Gospel to the poor;He hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set liberty them that are bruised, To prearch the acceptable year of the Lord. And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. And he began to say unto them, this day is this scripture is fulfilled in your ears. And all bear him witness, and wondered at the gracious words which proceeded out of his mouth. And they said, is not this Joseph's son? And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb,Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country. And he said, Verily I say unto you, no prophet is accepted in his own country. But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land; But unto none of them was Elias sent, save unto Sarepta, a city of Sidon, unto a woman that was a widow. And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Eliseus the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian. And all they in the synagogue, when they heard these things, were filled with warth, And rose up, and thrust him out of the city, and led him unto the brow of the hill whereon their city was built, that they might cast him down headlong. But he passing through the midst of them went his way.) Luke 4:14-30

    The above text has the following proofs that Jesus was a Slave (of Allah or God)

    1.) (And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit in the Galilee). This is proof that Jesus is not God or the son of God, or that he possessed divine powers, as the Christians claim. He returned to Galilee with the help of the Holy Ghost, the Angel. Whoeveris in need of the Holy Ghost cannot be a God, Creator or Capable

    2.) Jesus said to those, who he was preaching to in Mazareth: (This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears) This means that God promise to Esaias is fulfilled, (The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the Gospel to the poor; He hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised. To preach the acceptable year of the Lord). This is proof enough that Jesus was a Prophet that previous Prophets told about. (The Spirit of the Lord is upon me) means the revelation from God (to Jesus) by the Holy Ghost. He did not say that "I am the Spirit of the Lord, a part of Him or I am He" (Anointed me) means that God anointed (made a Messiah) of me. Messiahs are anointed as was the habit of the Jews. Messiah also means the one who dissolves disbelief and Kufr. All of the above explaine the Message and Prophethood and not being a God or God-like. (He hath sent me) means that Jesus was sent as a Messenger, not God or the son of God. all Praise be to Allah or God.

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  2. Nazareth Refuses Jesus (Part 2)

    3.) The Nazareth' reply to Jesus was of the worst kind, full of cursing and false accusations. Instead of confirming that Jesus was a Messenger, they cursed him and accused him of being illegitimate. They said; (Is not this Joseph's son?) Joseph was Mary's fiancee before the Holy Ghost came to her, by Allah or God's order, to give her the good tidings of her giving birth to Jesus. Allah or God said, what translated means: (then We sent to her our "Ruh" [Angel Gabriel], and he appeared before her in the form of a man in all respects. She said: "Verily! I seek refuge with the Most Beneficent (Allah) from you, if you do fear Allah or God" (The Angel) said: "I am only a messenger from you Lord, (to announce) to you the gift of a righteous son.")Q.19:17-19

    Those Criminal Jews who came to listen to Jesus, gave him his reception. This happened after Jesus said that he was the Messiah, sent by God, so that God will open their ears and closed hearts, through his Message, to free the prisoners that Satan imprisoned, and to promise them with forgiveness from God. They answered this noble cause by saying: (Is not this Joseph's son?) They said this to him, falsely accusing him and his mother of being adulterous, and refuting his Prophethood. After they said that, Jesus said; (No Prophet is accepted in his own country). And, (A prophet is not without honor, save in his own country!). Matt 13:57

    Jesus then told the Jews that his family are those loyal to him, the ones who accept his Message and Believe in him. He then told them that Prophet Esaias did not help Jews, at the time of famine, but a widow of Sidon, who was not a Jewess. Elias did not cure, by the order of God, but a Syrian man, Numaan, and again, not a Jew. He told them that God's mercy, that he sent Jesus with, will be felt not by his own people. He told them what can be produced, of good, on his hands can be of benefit to others, not to the Jews of Nazareth who disbelieved in him. When the Jews heard this from him, they led him to the brow of the hill to throw him down! All the above is evidence that Jesus did not claim to be God. He only told them that he was a prophet. Why did Jesus tell them; "I created you. I am your Lord!"

    Is it honorable for God that his people would accuse him of being a result of fornication? Does God descend from heaven so that his hometown folk would say to each other; (Is not this Joseph's son?). We praise Allah and seek refuge and forgiveness in Him from such beliefs that are Kufr (disbelief). Allah is the Most Patient when He hears all this Kufr

    4.) Does Allah or God descend from His heaven so that he is arrested by the people of His hometown?! Then they lead Him to a mountain to cast Him down from it tip!! Is it Allah or God who anyone can do this to? Is it appropriate of Allah that He is treated like this?

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  3. bismillâh ir-rahmân ir-rahîm(In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.)
    Qul huwa Allâhu ahad (Say: He, Allah, is One.)
    Allâh s-samad (Allah is He on Whom all depend.)
    Lam yalid wa lam yûlad(He begets not, nor is He begotten.)
    wa lam yakul-la-hû kufu-wan ahad (And none is like Him.)

    WALANG KATULAD( hindi mukhang tao at hindi nagkatawan tao at wala na siyang katulad)

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  4. Nang sabihin ni Hesus na "Sa Panginoon mong iyong Dios ka sasamba" ay nangangahulugang ang makapangyarihang Dios ang tinutukoy duon at di si Hesus, dahil ng quote lang naman si Hesus duon, etong mangmang na admin ng site na ito ay masyadong nagmamagaling, alam nya ba na maging si hesus ay sumamaba sa Dios, Nanalangin sa Dios...basahin mo ang mateo 6 at juan 4;23-24 tingnan mo kung sino ang sinamba nya...si Maria kung totoong Dios si Kristo paano nya tinawag ang anak ya ?ANAK KONG DIOS"? o ng mga kapatid nya 'KAPATID NAMING DIOS"? SIGE SAGOT!!

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