Tuesday, July 10, 2012

Muslim exposes error in Quran 19:28

I WELCOME debates and discussions with MUSLIMS who ATTACK the BIBLE, CHRISTIANITY and the LORD JESUS. These debates expose more about Islam than their intended targets.

One thing exposed is the ERROR in QURAN 19:28, which a MUSLIM named BEN LANCUYAN, AFFIRMED--wittingly or unwittingly.

Quran 19:28 is about Islam's version of the Virgin Mary, who the verse (ayah) described as the "SISTER OF AARON."

The verse reads, starting from Quran 19:27 (from the Meanings of the Quran by Muhammad Mohsin Khan):
Then she brought him (the baby) to her people, carrying him. They said: "O Mary! Indeed you have brought a thing Fariyy (a mighty thing). [Tafsir Al-Tabari]
"O sister (i.e. the like) of Harun (Aaron)! Your father was not a man who used to commit adultery, nor your mother was an unchaste woman."


MARY, 'SISTER OF AARON'

In Quran 19:28, it is CLEAR that "Mary," the mother of the Islamic Jesus (Isa), is described as the "SISTER OF AARON."

Anyone who knows BIBLICAL HISTORY knows that Mary is NOT the "SISTER OF AARON."

Mary lived in New Testament times (6BC to 100AD), while Aaron lived in the Old Testament--some 1,200 up to 1,600 years earlier.

For those who don't know Aaron, he was the brother of Moses, who liberated the Israelites from Egypt, sometime in 1600BC to 1200BC.

The time difference makes the claim of Quran 19:28 as IMPOSSIBLE.

So, to people who know HISTORY and the BIBLE, there is a SERIOUS ERROR in Quran 19:28.

MARY is NOT the SISTER of AARON. It is that simple.



MARY, 'DAUGHTER OF IMRAN'

The claim of QURAN 19:28 that MARY is the BIOLOGICAL or LITERAL "SISTER OF AARON" is BOLSTERED by the claim of other verses in the Quran, specifically QURAN 66:12.


QURAN 66:12 states:
"And Maryam (Mary), the daughter of 'Imran who guarded her chastity. And We breathed into (the sleeve of her shirt or her garment) through Our Ruh [i.e. Jibril (Gabriel) ], and she testified to the truth of the Words of her Lord [i.e. believed in the Words of Allah: "Be!" - and he was; that is 'Îsa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) as a Messenger of Allah], and (also believed in) His Scriptures, and she was of the Qanitun (i.e. obedient to Allah) ."

Who is IMRAN?

IMRAN is the Arabic equivalent of the name AMRAM, the FATHER of AARON in the OLD TESTAMENT.


Exodus 6:20 says:
"Amram married Jochebed his father's sister and she bore him Aaron and Moses, and the length of Amram's life was one hundred thirty-seven years."

So, the claim of QURAN 19:28 that MARY is the "SISTER OF AARON," plus the claim of QURAN 66:12 that MARY is "the DAUGHTER OF IMRAN" provide CLEAR BASIS for saying that the QURAN SEES MARY is the LITERAL and BIOLOGICAL SISTER of AARON.

And for those who know HISTORY and the BIBLE, QURAN 19:28 and QURAN 66:12 PROVE a SERIOUS ERROR in the TEXTS.
 


NO ERROR, SAY MUSLIMS

Not surprisingly, MUSLIMS, like LANCUYAN who ATTACK the Bible based on the flimsiest of reasons, insist that there is "no error" with Quran 19:28 declaring that MARY is the "SISTER OF AARON."

But it was in defending Quran 19:28 that Lancuyan affirmed its error.

Lancuyan said in his blog (Defender of the Straight Path):

"We, MUslims will die with fact that Mary is NOT a biological sister of Aaron."


Oddly, as I said, Lancuyan made that statement while trying to disprove any error in Quran 19:28.

As it turned out, he even HIGHLIGHTED the error by directly CONTRADICTING the claim of the verse that Mary is the "SISTER OF AARON."

In short, even Lancuyan agrees that Mary "SISTER OF AARON" is WRONG.

Even Muslims DISAGREE with the claim of QURAN 19:28.


72 comments:

  1. tama ka bro cenon dapat lang na isaisahin mo ang mga contradiction sa bible KUNO na mga atake ng mga muslim at B.I.( balik islam ) ,,,para mapalinis na ang mga
    B.I. ( baliktad na IQ )ng mga iyan .

    pati mga iskolar ng mga muslim sila sila
    nga nagkokontradik .
    allah nga nila mismo eh daming contradictions.

    tama lang ang mga pahayag ni salman rushdie , at ngayon nagsulputan sa daming
    anti islamic website na nagpapatotoo sa kaga---an at pan---ko ng koran at ni mohamad at karamihan pa mga ex-muslim.

    Saude

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  2. WE ARE ALL SON OF ABRAHAM... PERO TEKA KELAN NABUHAY SI ABRAHAM? GANYAN ANG KONTEKSTO NG QURAN...
    ISA PA ILANG MARY MERON ANG BIBLE? ILANG AARON MERON ANG BIBLE? BASTA BA AARON BIBLE NANGGALING? MAY KAKILALA AKO PANGALAN JACOB EH. DOES IT MEAN SHA SI JACOB NA NASA BIBLE? MAG ISIP PO KAU NG MABUTI. KAHIT SINONG MATINONG TAO HINDI TATANGGI SA PUNTO KO... MABUHAY ANG ISLAM!

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  3. ANONYMOUS SAID:
    ISA PA ILANG MARY MERON ANG BIBLE?


    CENON BIBE:
    SALAMAT po sa TANONG NINYO.

    MARAMI pong MARY sa BIBLE pero IISA po ang INA ng PANGINOONG HESUS.

    Sa QURAN 19:28 po ay ang MARIA na INA ni HESUS ang PINATUTUNGKULAN na KAPATID daw ni AARON.



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    ANONYMOUS SAID:
    ILANG AARON MERON ANG BIBLE? BASTA BA AARON BIBLE NANGGALING?


    CENON BIBE:
    Sa BIBLE po ay IISA ang AARON. SIYA po ang KAPATID ni MOISES.

    MAY KAPATID po SIYANG MARIA pero HINDI si MARIANG INA ni HESUS.

    HINDI po ba ang AARON ng BIBLIYA ang AARON ng QURAN?

    WALA pong PROBLEMA kung ang AARON ng QURAN ay HINDI ang AARON ng BIBLIYA. MAS MABUTI nga po e.

    Ang kaso po ay SAAN KINUHA ng QURAN ang AARON na BINANGGIT DOON?

    Yon ang PROBLEMA ng NANINIWALA sa QURAN.



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    ANONYMOUS SAID:
    MAY KAKILALA AKO PANGALAN JACOB EH. DOES IT MEAN SHA SI JACOB NA NASA BIBLE?


    CENON BIBE:
    MALAMANG nga po ay ang JACOB na KAKILALA NINYO ay HINDI ang JACOB sa BIBLIYA.

    Ang TANONG KO lang po ay SAAN KINUHA ng JACOB na IYON ang PANGALAN NIYA?



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    ANONYMOUS SAID:
    MAG ISIP PO KAU NG MABUTI. KAHIT SINONG MATINONG TAO HINDI TATANGGI SA PUNTO KO... MABUHAY ANG ISLAM!


    CENON BIBE:
    NAG-ISIP na po AKO at MATAGAL KO nang TINATANONG ang mga MUSLIM na PATUNAYANG DIYOS MISMO ang NAGTAYO ng ISLAM.

    AWA po ng DIYOS ay NEVER NAPATUNAYAN ng mga MUSLIM na DIYOS MISMO ang NAGTAYO ng ISLAM.

    NEVER din po NAPATUNAYAN ng mga MUSLIM na DIYOS MISMO ang NAGSUGO sa PROPETA NILA.

    NEVER din po NAPATUNAYAN ng mga MUSLIM na MAY MISMONG SALITA ng DIYOS sa QURAN.

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  4. Hahaha. I already said my peice COMPLETELY on that issue. No need to explain further.

    Until now. Note: UNTIL NOW, you have not yet presented to me a clear biblical passage which "SAY" (that) THE REASON WHY JESUS WAS CALLED SON OF DAVID IS BECAUSE JESUS IS A SON OF DAVID.

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    1. Yeah, and YOUR JUST TRYING to AVOID the DISCUSSION because YOU CANNOT REFUTE ANY of the THINGS that I SAID.

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  5. Question



    It is mentioned in your Qur'an that Mary was the sister of Aaron (pbuh). Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who wrote the Qur'an did not know the difference between Miriam the sister of Aaron (pbuh) and Mary the Mother of Jesus (pbuh), the time span between both of them was about a thousand years.



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    1. IN THE SEMITIC LANGUAGES SISTER ALSO MEANS DESCENDANT



    The Qur'an mentions in Surah Maryam, Chapter 19 verses 27-28



    "At length she brought the (babe) to her people, carrying him (in her arms). They said: 'O Mary! Truly an amazing thing hast thou brought!



    O sister of Aaron! Thy father was not a man of evil, nor thy mother a woman unchaste!'" [Al-Qur'an 19:27-28]



    Christian missionaries say that Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) did not know the difference between Mary the mother of Jesus (pbuh) and Miriam the sister of Aaron (pbuh). The time span between both was more than a thousand years.



    In the Arabic construction of the sentence, sister is also considered as a descendant. Thus, when the people said to Mary, Ukhta Haroon i.e. 'sister of Aaron' it actually means descendant of Aaron (pbuh).





    2. SON ALSO MEANS DESCENDANT

    It is mentioned in the Gospel of Mathew, Chapter 1 verse 1



    "Jesus Christ, the son of David,....". [Mathew 1:1]



    Gospel of Luke Chapter 3, verse 23



    "And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, ....." [Luke 3:23]

    DID JESUS (PBUH) HAVE TWO FATHERS?



    What do you call a person who has two fathers? The explanation of the phrase that Jesus (pbuh) was the son of David (pbuh), is that Jesus (pbuh) was a descendant of David (pbuh). 'Son', here means a descendant.

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    1. ANONYMOUS SAID:
      1. IN THE SEMITIC LANGUAGES SISTER ALSO MEANS DESCENDANT


      CENON BIBE:
      WHERE is the PROOF?

      YOU GAVE QURAN 19:28, where "SISTER" DOES NOT MEAN DESCENDANT but BIOLOGICAL SISTER.

      Please GIVE OTHER EXAMPLES FROM the QURAN or FROM the BIBLE where "SISTER" MEANS DESCENDANT.

      YOUR BROTHER, BEN LANCUYAN, ALREADY ADMITTED that THERE ARE NO PROOF to SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM.



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      ANONYMOUS SAID:
      In the Arabic construction of the sentence, sister is also considered as a descendant. Thus, when the people said to Mary, Ukhta Haroon i.e. 'sister of Aaron' it actually means descendant of Aaron (pbuh).


      CENON BIBE:
      WHAT is YOUR SOURCE to say that "UKHTA" means "DESCENDANT"?

      I suppose THERE IS NONE. If there were then YOU WOULD HAVE CITED IT.



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      ANONYMOUS SAID:
      2. SON ALSO MEANS DESCENDANT


      CENON BIBE:
      THAT is TRUE because the JEWS or ISRAELITES are PATERNAL.

      IT is NOT TRUE for "SISTER" because the ISRAELITES are NOT MATERNAL.


      Now, YOU WOULD HAVE to EXPLAIN the MEANING of "SON" to YOUR BROTHER BEN, who INSISTS that "SON" DOES NOT MEAN "DESCENDANT."

      That shows how MUSLIMS are DIVIDED AMONG THEMSELVES on HOW to EXPLAIN their BELIEFS.



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      ANONYMOUS SAID:
      DID JESUS (PBUH) HAVE TWO FATHERS?

      What do you call a person who has two fathers? The explanation of the phrase that Jesus (pbuh) was the son of David (pbuh), is that Jesus (pbuh) was a descendant of David (pbuh). 'Son', here means a descendant.


      CENON BIBE:
      THANK YOU for SIDING WITH CHRISTIANS on THIS ISSUE.

      That is OUR STAND, which YOUR BROTHER, BEN, HAS TRIED TO REFUTE but CAN'T.

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  6. QURAN 66:12
    "And Maryam (Mary), the daughter of 'Imran


    Maryam was a descendant of Imram the father of Aaron. 'Daugther', here means a descendant.

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    1. Sorry, but that is a lame excuse.

      QURAN 66:12 says
      And Maryam (Mary), the daughter of 'Imran who guarded her chastity.

      It is clear there that IMRAN as the father of Mary guarded the chastity.

      How could an ancestor have guarded the chastity of one of his descendants?

      If your excuse is correct, then Imran as the ancestor could not have seen Mary, much less guard her chastity.

      So, your excuse is clearly wrong.

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      Also in QURAN 3:35-36, it is CLEAR that it was the "WIFE of IMRAN" that GAVE BIRTH to MARY. So, it is clear that that QURAN thinks that MARY is the BIOLOGICAL DAUGHTER of IMRAN, the FATHER of AARON.

      That makes AARON the BIOLOGICAL SISTER of MARY. The ERROR is AFFIRMED.


      QURAN 3:35-36
      (Remember) when the wife of 'Imran said: "O my Lord! I have vowed to You what (the child that) is in my womb to be dedicated for Your services (free from all worldly work; to serve Your Place of worship), so accept this from me. Verily, You are the All-Hearer, the All-Knowing."

      Then when she gave birth to her [child Maryam (Mary)], she said: "O my Lord! I have given birth to a female child," - and Allah knew better what she brought forth, - "And the male is not like the female, and I have named her Maryam (Mary), and I seek refuge with You (Allah) for her and for her offspring from Shaitan (Satan), the outcast."


      SORRY, YOU CANNOT HIDE that ERRORL.

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    2. mary or maryam father name in Islam is Imraan...

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    3. The NAME of Mary's FATHER is NOT "IMRAN." It is HELIAKIM (Luke 3:23) o JEHOIACHIM.

      The name JEHOIACHIM o JOACHIM was attested to by an early Christian writing, the Gospel of James, which although not canonical is still an important historical document.

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  7. lol... The critics point to the fact that the name of Aaron’s father is Amran (Imran) and Islamic sources call Mary the daughter of Imran. The critic then claims this is support for their allegation of anachronistic error levelled at the Quran.

    However, the critics miss the fact that the name of Mary’s father was in fact Imran thus the Islamic sources do not support their claim as the Islamic sources are completely correct and accurate to call Mary the daughter of Imran as she was the daughter of Imran!

    It just so happens that BOTH Aaron and Mary had fathers named “Imran” but Muhammed pointed out that the two were not the same person in his explanation of Surah 19:28 [1] so it would be unscholarly to ignore Muhammad’s explanation in favour of convoluted conjecture.

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    1. And WHERE does Muhammad point out that the IMRAN of the OLD TESTAMENT is NOT the IMRAN who is the "FATHER OF MARY" in QURAN 66:12?

      YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PRODUCE a SURAH or HADITH STATING YOUR CLAIM.

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    2. http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.com/2010/05/re.html

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  8. CENON BIBE:
    WHERE is the PROOF?

    YOU GAVE QURAN 19:28, where "SISTER" DOES NOT MEAN DESCENDANT but BIOLOGICAL SISTER.

    Please GIVE OTHER EXAMPLES FROM the QURAN or FROM the BIBLE where "SISTER" MEANS DESCENDANT.

    YOUR BROTHER, BEN LANCUYAN, ALREADY ADMITTED that THERE ARE NO PROOF to SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM.


    Anonymous:
    http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/mary.html

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    1. THE WEBSITE that you POINTED OUT only PROVED the ERROR in QURAN 19:28 (MARY SISTER OF AARON) and QURAN 66:12 (IMRAN FATHER OF MARY).

      Your website mentioned QURAN 11:78 as to the meaning of "DAUGHTER."

      The SURAH is a poor imitation of Genesis 19:8, when the evil people of Sodom and Gomorrah tried to grab the messengers of God and tried to have sexual acts with them.

      Genesis 19:8 reads:
      Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.”


      Here is QURAN 11:78
      And his people came rushing towards him, and they had been long in the habit of practising abominations. He said: "O my people! Here are my daughters: they are purer for you (if ye marry)! Now fear Allah, and cover me not with shame about my guests! Is there not among you a single right-minded man?"


      CLEARLY, QURAN 11:78 is in reference to GENESIS 19:8.

      And in GENESIS 19:8, the word DAUGHTERS refer to LOT'S BIOLOGICAL DAUGHTERS.

      So, it is CLEAR that in QURAN 11:78, the word "DAUGHTERS" also refer to LOT'S BIOLOGICAL DAUGHTERS.

      That means that if the meaning of "DAUGHTER of Imran" takes from QURAN 11:78, then "DAUGHTER of Imran" talks of MARY as the BIOLOGICAL DAUGHTER of IMRAN.

      The ERROR in QURAN 19:28 and QURAN 66:12 is further CONFIRMED by an ISLAMIC APOLOGIST.

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    2. Cenon: THE WEBSITE that you POINTED OUT only PROVED the ERROR in QURAN

      basahin mo ulit iho...

      http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/mary.html

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    3. I ALREADY POINTED OUT the NEW ERROR in the QURAN that YOUR REFERENCE PUT FORWARD.

      Please read the discussion I presented.

      I am sure that YOU CANNOT REFUTE IT.

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    4. Please read po, madali lng nman maintindhan yan eh, ang linaw linaw...

      iwan ko lng kung ayaw mong lng tlgang intindhin....

      http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/mary.html

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    5. kung d mo matanggap, eh panu mo to ipapaliwanag...?

      Jesus was addressed as Son of David in the Bible. Was he literally Son of David?

      And the crowds that went before him and that followed him shouted, "Hosanna to the Son of David! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord! Hosanna in the highest!" [Matthew 21:9 RSV]

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    6. ANONYMOUS SAID:
      http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/External/mary.html


      CENON BIBE:
      I already read and explained that.

      In fact, I pointed out that the explanation of ISLAMIC AWARENESS only highlighted the ERROR in QURAN 19:28.

      Please see this: Cenon Bibe Jr.August 20, 2012 4:02 AM

      Thank you.

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    7. ANONYMOUS SAID:
      kung d mo matanggap, eh panu mo to ipapaliwanag...?

      Jesus was addressed as Son of David in the Bible. Was he literally Son of David?


      CENON BIBE:
      MADALI pong IPALIWANAG YAN.

      Ang "SON" o "ANAK" ay GINAGAMIT para ipakita na APO o DESCENDANT ng isang tao ang isa pang tao.

      Sa Matthew 21:9 ay ipinakikita na si HESUS ay GALING sa LAHI ni DAVID.



      HINDI po iyan MAGAGAMIT para ipaliwanag ang MARY "SISTER OF AARON" dahil ang "SISTER" ay HINDI KATUMBAS ng "SON" o "DAUGHTER."

      MAGKAIBA po YAN.

      Kung sinabi na "DAUGHTER OF AARON" ay MATATANGGAP PA na DESCENDANT ni AARON si MARIA.

      Ang kaso po ay "SISTER" o "KAPATID" ang ginamit e. Bagay na MALI dahil HINDI po KAPATID ni AARON si MARIA.

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    8. so mali nga talaga ang biblya? my proof ba na ang SON is also DESCENDANT????

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    9. KUNG yan po ang UNAWA NINYO ay IKINALULUNGKOT KO po na MALI KAYO.

      HINDI po MATATAKPAN ng PAGKAKAMALI NINYO ang MALI sa QURAN 19:28 at QURAN 66:12.



      Ang PROOF po na ang SON ay maaring DESCENDANT ay MATTHEW 1:1.

      "An account of the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah, the son of David, the son of Abraham."


      Yan pong ERROR na MARY "SISTER OF AARON" WALA pong EXCUSE YAN. MALI po TALAGA.

      SORRY po.

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    10. mali talaga ang biblya akalain mo namn na tinawag si hesus na ANAK DAW NI DAVID??? lol may ama ba si hesus?? wala nmn dba?? mukang nagkamali lng ata si MATTHEW daw hehehe... si matthew daw na sidupolo daw ni hesus hahahaha....

      tanong lng, si hesus ba kamag-anak ba ni david???

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    11. HINDI po porke WALA KAYONG ALAM sa KULTURA ay "mali" na ang Bibliya.

      Tulad KAYO ng GUMAWA ng QURAN 19:28, HINDI ALAM ang HISTORY kaya MALI ang SINABI. GINAWANG KAPATID ni AARON si MARIA e HINDI NAMAN.



      Basta po APO ni DAVID o KASAMA sa KANYANG LAHI ay MATATAWAG na "ANAK NI DAVID."

      At diyan lumabas na WALANG ALAM ang DEFENSOR ng QURAN 19:28.

      Una, sinasabi nila na "APO" o "DESCENDANT" ni AARON si MARIA kaya siya tinawag na "SISTER OF AARON."

      MALI po, HINDI "SISTER" ang TAWAG sa "APO" kundi "DAUGHTER."

      Katulad ng LOGIC sa pagtawag ng "SON" sa APONG LALAKE.


      Kung KRISTIYANO po KAYO ay MARAMI KAYONG MATUTUTUNANG TAMA.

      MALAS na lang po KAYO dahil HINDI KAYO KRISTIYANO at MALI ang NAANIBAN NINYO.

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  9. BOTH Aaron and Mary had fathers named “Imran”

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    1. That is NOT SUPPORTED by any SURAH in the QURAN or any VERSE in the BIBLE.

      In fact, if that claim is accepted as true, it will CLAIM ANOTHER ERROR in the QURAN.

      The REAL FATHER of MARY is NOT NAMED "IMRAN." Her real father's name is HELIAKIM or JEHOIACHIM.

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    2. Cenon: The REAL FATHER of MARY is NOT NAMED "IMRAN." Her real father's name is HELIAKIM or JEHOIACHIM..


      lol...!!!1 xure ka???

      In Christianity Not in Islam..

      Is there a bible verse to support Heliakim or Jehoiachim as father of Mary mother of JESUS????

      iba po ang Quran sa biblya na translated na lahat pati pangalan na etranslate na din to hebrew - english - tagalog etc....tzk tzk..

      Mary fahter name in ISLAM is Imran (Arabic: آل عمران) so both Aaron and Mary had fathers name "Imran"

      Behold! When the wife of Imraan said: “O my Lord! I do dedicate unto Thee what is in my womb for Thy service. So accept this of me; for thou Hearest and Knowest all things.” When she delivered, she said: “O my Lord! Behold! I am delivered of a female child!” (Surah Ale-Emraan:35-36)


      Son of Mary, Jesus name in ISLAM is ʿĪsā (Arabic: عيسى) so Quran not same to Bible....

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    3. MALI nga po e.

      HINDI IMRAN ang PANGALAN ng AMA ni MARIA kundi HELIAKIM o JOACHIM (Yəhôyāqîm sa ORIHINAL NA WIKA).

      So MALINAW na MALI ang QURAN 66:12 nung sabihin diyan na si IMRAN ang AMA ni MARIA.

      Ang KATUMBAS ng IMRAN sa HEBREO ay "AMRAM" at HINDI "HELIAKIM" at HINDI JEHOHIACHIM.

      So MALI po TALAGA ang SINASABI ng QURAN 3:35 at QURAN 66:12.

      HINDI IMRAN ang PANGALAN ng AMA ni MARIA.

      SORRY po.

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    4. Is there a bible verse to support Heliakim or Jehoiachim (Yəhôyāqîm sa ORIHINAL NA WIKA) as father of Mary mother of JESUS????

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    5. MERON PO.

      Sa Luke 3:23 ay GINAMIT ang GENEALOGY o SALINLAHI ni MARIA para ipakita na si HESUS ay GALING sa ANGKAN ni HARING DAVID.

      Sabi sa talata:
      Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, the son of Heli."


      Baka po magtaka kayo kung bakit sinabi na si JOSEPH ang "SON OF HELI."

      Ang mga ISRAELITA po kasi ay PATERNALISTIC o NAGBABATAY sa LAHI ng AMA.

      HINDI SILA NAGLALAGAY ng PANGALAN ng BABAE sa KANILANG MGA SALINLAHI.

      Dahil diyan, ang INILAGAY na ANAK ni HELI sa SALINLAHI ay si JOSEPH na KINILALANG ASAWA ni MARIA at HINDI SI MARIA MISMO.

      Ganoon po yon.



      Pero MALINAW po na SALINGLAHI ni MARIA ang TINUTUKOY riyan.

      Kung titingnan ninyo ang LUKE 3:31 ay makikita ninyo na si HELI ay galing sa ANAK ni DAVID na si NATHAN.

      Sa kabilang dako, sa mismong SALINLAHI ni JOSEPH sa MATTHEW 1:1-16 ay makikita ninyo na siya ay galing sa ANAK ni DAVID na si SOLOMON.

      Kaya nga po MAGKAIBA ang SALINLAHI e. Ang nasa LUKE ay SALINLAHI ni HESUS kay MARIA, at ang nasa MATTHEW ay SALINLAHI NIYA kay JOSEPH.

      Sana po ay NAUNAWAAN NINYO.

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    6. anong klasing sagot yan?? iho e2 ung tanong:

      Is there a bible verse to support Heliakim or Jehoiachim (Yəhôyāqîm sa ORIHINAL NA WIKA) as father of Mary mother of JESUS????

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    7. NARIYAN na po sa ITAAS ang VERSE na HINIHINGI NINYO.

      KUMPLETO po ang SAGOT KO na tumukoy pa sa DALAWANG ULAT ng SALINLAHI ng PANGINOONG HESUS.

      At HINDI lang po BIBLIYA ang SOURCE ng HELIAKIM at JEHOIACHIM bilang PANGALAN ng AMA ni MARIA.

      Maging ang mga HISTORICAL SOURCES ay IYAN ang SINASABI.

      WALA pong HISTORICAL SOURCE na NAGSASABING "IMRAN" ang PANGALAN ng TATAY NIYA. Kaya nga po MALI ang IMRAN e.

      At dahil KAYO ang NAGPILIT NIYAN ay KAYO po ang NAGLANTAD ng ISA na namang ERROR sa QURAN.

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  10. Hazrat Maryam`s (Alayhas-Salam) respectable parents are Hazrat Emraan and Hazrat Hannah. In her old age, Hazrat Hannah (Alayhas-Salam) was expecting a child. With the birth of a son in mind, she made an oath to Allah that the child to be born would be freed from all worldly affairs and specially dedicated to Allah’s service. Almighty Allah blessed her with a daughter, who was to be the mother of Hazrat Isa (Peace Be Upon Him), Hazrat Maryam (Alayhas-Salam), the chosen one among the women.

    The Holy Quraan says:
    Behold! When the wife of Imraan said: “O my Lord! I do dedicate unto Thee what is in my womb for Thy service. So accept this of me; for thou Hearest and Knowest all things.” When she delivered, she said: “O my Lord! Behold! I am delivered of a female child!” (Surah Ale-Emraan:35-36)

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    1. And with QURAN 19:28 which states that MARY is the "SISTER OF AARON," the ERROR of MAKING MARY the DAUGHTER of IMRAN is MADE MORE CLEAR.

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  11. MAG ARAL KA MUNA NG ARABIK IHO....

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    1. Kahit TAGALOG o INGLES o ARABIK ay MALI pa rin ang QURAN 19:28.

      PROOF: WALANG KAPATID na LALAKE si MARIA, ang INA ni HESUS.

      KAPATID na BABAE LANG ang MERON SIYA.

      So, KAHIT pa SABIHING KAPANGALAN LANG ni AARON ang KAPATID ni MARIA ay MALI pa rin.

      WALANG KAPATID na LALAKE si MARIA.

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  12. bka nkalimutan mo na ang biblya nyo eh translated??? pati mga pangalan ng tao eh na itranslate na din so pano ka mkakasiguro na yan nga ang 2nay na pangalan ni maryam o marry????

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    1. GINAGAMIT lang po ang TRANSLATION para MAGKAROON ng IDEYA ang mga HINDI MARUNONG ng MGA ORIHINAL na WIKA.

      Sa IGLESIA KATOLIKA, ang PANANAMPALATAYA at PANINIWALA ay IBINABATAY sa mga ORIHINAL na SALITA sa HEBREO at GRIEGO.

      Ang MARY po ay ACCEPTED TRANSLATION ng MARIAM. At PINAYAGAN ng DIYOS ang PAGKILALA sa mga TAO sa BIBLIYA batay sa kanilang ACCEPTED TRANSLATION.

      Ang PATUNAY diyan ay ang UTOS ng DIYOS na IPANGARAL ang MABUTING BALITA sa LAHAT ng BANSA. (MATTHEW 28:19-20) Iyan po ang dahilan kung bakit ISINASALIN ang BIBLIYA sa LAHAT ng WIKA.

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  13. i mean tunay na pangalan ng ama ni maryam??

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    1. Ang PANGALAN po ng TUNAY na AMA ni MARIA ay HELIAKIM o JOACHIM.

      Ang HELIAKIM at JOACHIM ay PAREHONG KINIKILALA at TINATANGGAP ng PANGALAN ng AMA ni MARIA.

      NEVER KINILALA yang "IMRAN" na yan.

      MALI po yan. Isang MALAKING ERROR ang "IMRAN."

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  14. Cenon,
    the word akhun or ukhtun means,Blood brother or sister or Brotherhood or sisterhood in clan and faith or descendant marami po ibig sabihin ng akhun at ukhta..

    kung tlagang totoong kapatid ni aaron si maryam eh dpat sana e2 ang nkalagay (شقيقة)Shaqiqa dhl e2 nmn tlga ang arabik sa kadugo mong kapatid at hnd (أخت)akhun or ukhtun....

    hnd porket tnawag syang sister of aaron eh totoong kapatid na ni aaron si maryam, so kung ganun pla ang mga madre na tinatawag nyung SISTER eh totoo/kadugong kapatid nyu rin cla kc tanawag nyu clang SISTER????? o d kya kapatid sa lahi at pananampalataya???


    sabi nga ng isa jan MAG ARAL KA MUNA NG ARABIK, tama nmn sya eh klangan mo mna mag aral ng arabik ng maintndhan mo....

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    1. KAHIT ANO pa po ang SABIHIN ay MALINAW na TINAWAG na "SISTER of AARON" si MARIA.

      MAKIKITA rin na BIOLOGICAL SISTER si MARY dahil sinabi na si MARIA ay ANAK o DAUGHTER ng TATAY ni AARON na si IMRAN. (QURAN 66:12)



      Ngayon, kung ipipilit po na ang UKHTUN ay HINDI BIOLOGICAL SISTER, lalabas na MAY MALI NA NAMAN sa QURAN.

      Lalabas kasi na sa QURAN 15:71 ay HINDI TUNAY na ANAK ni LOT ang mga IBINIBIGAY NIYA kapalit sa mga BISITA NIYANG SUGO ng ANGHEL.

      Sa TAMANG KWENTO sa GENESIS 19:8 ay MISMONG mga ANAK na BABAE ni LOT ang IBINIBIGAY NIYA bilang KAPALIT ng mga BISITA NIYA.

      So, kung ipipilit po ninyo na HINDI BIOLOGICAL DAUGHTER ang KAHULUGAN ng "UKHTUN" ay DADAGDAGAN na naman NINYO ang ERRORS sa QURAN.

      At ngayon ay lalabas na MALI TALAGA ang QURAN dahil sa mga paliwanag ninyo kaugnay diyan.

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    2. ang Akhun ay mula sa singular na Akh (أخ) at ang Ukhtun ay sa singular na Akht (أخت)

      sura 19:28. “O kapatid na babae ng mabuting tao na si Haroun! Kailanman ang iyong ama ay hindi naging masamang tao na gumawa ng kahalayan at gayon din ang iyong ina na hindi masamang babae na nakiapid.”

      sa arabik po iho, ang ginamait pong salita para sa KAPATID ay Akht (أخت)

      Ang Ibig sabihin ng Akht ay:
      .kapatid
      .kapatid sa pananampalataya
      .kalahi
      .Supling

      tungkol naman sa ama, Maryam father name is Imraan in ISLAM..

      Is there a bible verse to support Heliakim or Jehoiachim (Yəhôyāqîm) as father of Mary mother of JESUS????


      kw na bahala, d na kta pipilitin....

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    3. So, pinatutunayan ninyo na TINAWAG ngang "KAPATID" sa laman ni AARON si MARIA.

      Ayon sa inyo ay "KAPATID" sa laman ang AKHT, di po ba?

      Ang "KAPATID" po ay HINDI GINAGAMIT sa mga APO.



      Kung sinasabi ninyong "IMRAN" ang pangalan ng TATAY ni MARIA sa ISLAM ay MALI nga po.

      Pinatutunayan ninyo na MALI ang PANINIWALA ng ISLAM.

      HINDI po kasi IMRAN ang PANGALAN ng TATAY ni MARIA kundi HELIAKIM o JEHOIACHIM.


      Ngayon, nasa inyo po yon kung maniniwala kayo sa MALI.

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    4. ilan ba ang meaning ng akht?? kapatid lng ba??? tzk..

      saka, kng tlagang HELIAKIM o JEHOIACHIM ang pangalan ng ama ni mary o maryam na ina ni hesus eh patunayan mo po sa biblya nyo mapa lumang tipan man yan o mapa bagong tipan man yan... ok?

      bka ibang tao pla yan na nagpapanggap na ama daw sya ni mary o maryam na ina ni hesus hahahaha.... o bka ibang mary ang tinutukoy na anak ni HELIAKIM o JEHOIACHIM yan hehehe dami kc mary sa biblya eh LOL xD

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    5. IPINAKITA KO na po ang HELI (PINAIKLING HELIAKIM) sa BIBLIYA.

      Hindi naman ninyo natutulan yon, di po ba?

      Ang JEHOIACHIM ay MULA sa mga PATOTOO ng mga SAKSI sa KATOTOHANAN MULA pa noong UNANG SIGLO.

      HINDI po KAILANGANG MABASA sa BIBLIYA ang LAHAT ng BAGAY dahil MISMONG BIBLIYA ay WALANG UTOS na DAPAT ay MABASA roon ang SALITA o PANGALAN.


      Yan pong IMRAN ay NEVER po KINILALA bilang PANGALAN ng AMA ng BIRHENG MARIA. ERROR po YAN tulad ng ERROR na "SISTER OF AARON" daw si MARIA.

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    6. SON OF HELI??? HELIAKIM??? e2 ba ang totoong pangalan ng ama ni mary??? O baka namam yan ang tunay na pangalan ng ama ni Joseph hehehe si Heli??? patunayan mo po....

      ang tanong nga po eh

      Is there a bible verse to support Heliakim or Jehoiachim (Yəhôyāqîm) as father of Mary mother of JESUS????


      luke 3:23 in aramaic: ܗܘ ܕܝܢ ܝܫܘܥ ܐܝܬܘܗܝ ܗܘܐ ܐܝܟ ܒܪ ܫܢܝܢ ܬܠܬܝܢ ܘܡܤܬܒܪ ܗܘܐ ܒܪ ܝܘܤܦ ܒܪ ܗܠܝ

      luke 3:23 in hebrew: והוא ישוע בהחלו היה כבן שלשים שנה ויחשבהו לבן יוסף בן עלי׃

      san jan ung son of HELI????

      IBA TLGA ANG NAGAGAWA NG TRANSLATION... NADADAGDAGAN AT NABABAWASAN hehehehe.......

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    7. OPO, HELIAKIM po ang PANGALAN ng AMA ni MARIA. HINDI IMRAN.

      MALI po ang IMRAN.


      HINDI po SIYA ang AMA ni JOSEPH. Paki BASA po ang PALIWANAG KO sa ITAAS at NAROON NA YAN.

      Si JOSEPH ay GALING sa ANAK ni DAVID na si SOLOMON.

      Si HELI at MARIA ay GALING sa ANAK ni DAVID na si NATHAN.

      BAKIT po nag-a-ARAMAIC at HEBREO pa KAYO? HINDI naman IYAN ang ORIHINAL na WIKA ng LUKE 3:23 kundi GREEK.

      Kaya po KAYO RIN ang NAGDAGDAG o NAGBAWAS kung meron man.

      Sa GREEK ay NARITO ang SINASABI:
      LUKE 3:23
      Καὶ αὐτὸς ἦν Ἰησοῦς ἀρχόμενος ὡσεὶ ἐτῶν τριάκοντα, ὢν υἱός, ὡς ἐνομίζετο, Ἰωσὴφ τοῦ Ἠλὶ.

      Yan pong "Ἠλὶ" ang HELI.


      WALA po KAYONG MABABASANG "IMRAN" DIYAN.

      Kaya nga po MALI ang IMRAN e. ERROR sa QURAN 66:12.

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    8. In Luke's Gospel, Heli is the father of Joseph. We do not really know who was Mary's father, but in Islamic belief it was Imran.


      walang kasigurohan mula sa biblya na si Heli nga ang ama ni mary......

      ang tanong saan ko mababasa mula sa biblya na si HELIAKIM (boung pangalan) ay ang ama ni mary???

      sa luke, Heli lng, mukang hnd ata alam ni luke ung 2nay na pangalan na ama ni mary hehehe, eh kung ang pangalan mo putulin papayag ka ba??


      pano kung Helicopter pla tinutukoy ni luke lol....


      saka corrupted na yan mga biblya nyo hahaha, panu kami maniniwala kung d nyu maipakita ang orihinal na ebanghilyo????

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    9. ISLAM MISTOOK IMRAN to be the FATHER of MARY (QURAN 66:12) which is consistent with the MISTAKE that MARY is the "SISTER of AARON." (QURAN 19:28)

      It MISTOOK MARY, the MOTHER OF JESUS, as the MARY, SISTER of AARON in the OLD TESTAMENT. That is why IT ALSO MADE IMRAN, the FATHER OF AARON, as the FATHER OF MARY.

      Some MUSLIMS claim that MARY had a BROTHER NAMED "AARON," which is WRONG.

      MARY DID NOT HAVE A BROTHER. SHE ONLY HAD ONE SISTER.

      That's ONE MISTAKE AFTER ANOTHER in ISLAM.



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      MUSLIM ANONYMOUS SAID:
      walang kasigurohan mula sa biblya na si Heli nga ang ama ni mary......

      ang tanong saan ko mababasa mula sa biblya na si HELIAKIM (boung pangalan) ay ang ama ni mary???


      CENON BIBE:
      SINO naman po ang NAGSABI na DAPAT MABASA nang BUO ang HELIAKIM?

      You have ADAPTED the MISTAKE of MANY NON-CATHOLICS who ERRONEOUSLY BELIEVE that EVERYTHING ABOUT the FAITH SHOULD be FOUND in the BIBLE.

      The BIBLE ITSELF DOES NOT TEACH THAT NON-CATHOLIC BELIEF.



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      MUSLIM ANONYMOUS SAID:
      sa luke, Heli lng, mukang hnd ata alam ni luke ung 2nay na pangalan na ama ni mary hehehe, eh kung ang pangalan mo putulin papayag ka ba??


      pano kung Helicopter pla tinutukoy ni luke lol....


      CENON BIBE:
      KILALANG-KILALA nga po ni LUKAS ang AMA ni MARIA e. BINANGGIT siya sa PALAYAW na "HELI."

      Sa mga TUNAY na MAGKAKILALA ay HINDI KAILANGANG BUO ang BIGKAS ng PANGALAN.

      Minsan nga ay PALAYAW LANG ay OKAY NA.

      Kaya TAMA si LUKE na HELI ang PANGALAN ng AMA ni MARIA.



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      MUSLIM ANONYMOUS SAID:
      saka corrupted na yan mga biblya nyo hahaha, panu kami maniniwala kung d nyu maipakita ang orihinal na ebanghilyo????


      CENON BIBE:
      BIBLIYA po ba ang NAGKAMALI na "SISTER of AARON" si MARIA?

      HINDI po.

      BIBLIYA po ba ang NAGKAMALI na TATAY ni MARIA si "IMRAN"?

      HINDI po.

      BIBLIYA po ba ang NAGKAMALI na MAY KAPATID na LALAKE si MARIA?

      HINDI rin po.

      Ang MALINAW pong CORRUPT ay YUNG PURO MALI ang SINASABI, di po ba?

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    10. Cenon:
      Sa GREEK ay NARITO ang SINASABI:
      LUKE 3:23
      Καὶ αὐτὸς ἦν Ἰησοῦς ἀρχόμενος ὡσεὶ ἐτῶν τριάκοντα, ὢν υἱός, ὡς ἐνομίζετο, Ἰωσὴφ τοῦ Ἠλὶ.

      ngayon, nasaan ang sinasabi mong {{"SON"}} of Heli?????
      yan po ay napakilinaw na pangdadagdag...

      at walang malinaw na katibayan mula sa biblya tungkol sa ama ni mary na ina ni hesus....

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    11. Cenon:
      It MISTOOK MARY, the MOTHER OF JESUS, as the MARY, SISTER of AARON in the OLD TESTAMENT. That is why IT ALSO MADE IMRAN, the FATHER OF AARON, as the FATHER OF MARY.


      ang ibig mo bang sabihin ay ang ama ni maryam na si IMRAN ay siya rin ang ama ni aaron at moses????
      so ano na namn yan??? palaplagay na namn at hulahula???

      may proof kba mula sa quran o maging sa hadith man lmang na ang pangalan ng ama ni aaron at moses ay IMRAN???

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    12. Mary sister of Aaron???
      yes, pro hnd sa parhong magulang

      mary is sister of aaron dhl sila ay kadugo, kamag-anak, kalahi, katribo....

      anu ang koneksyon nila?? panu at bakit cla kadugo, kamag-anak o kalahi atbp????
      bcuz Mary is DESCENDANT of Aaron and both mary and aaron is DESCENDANT of Abraham...
      sila ay kapamilya,kadugo,kalahi katribo ni Abraham....

      and also mary is sister of aaron in clan and faith...

      The Arabic term 'ukh'ta' (sister) in verse 19:28 means

      (a) A sister by blood relationship from the same parent

      (b) Figuratively a female in faith, sisterhood, relationship by tribe.

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    13. ANONYMOUS SAID:
      ngayon, nasaan ang sinasabi mong {{"SON"}} of Heli?????
      yan po ay napakilinaw na pangdadagdag...


      CENON BIBE:
      HETO po ang "JOSEPH SON OF HELI": "Ἰωσὴφ τοῦ Ἠλὶ."

      Muli po, WALANG IMRAN.

      MALI po TALAGA ang QURAN 66:12.

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    14. ANONYMOUS SAID:
      ang ibig mo bang sabihin ay ang ama ni maryam na si IMRAN ay siya rin ang ama ni aaron at moses????
      so ano na namn yan??? palaplagay na namn at hulahula???


      CENON BIBE:
      MALI nga po ang QURAN 66:12 e. HINDI si IMRAN ang AMA ni MARIANG INA ni HESUS.

      HULA-HULA LANG po ang QURAN 66:12.

      BAKIT po ba NANINIWALA KAYO sa MALI-MALI at HULA-HULA LANG?



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      ANONYMOUS SAID:
      may proof kba mula sa quran o maging sa hadith man lmang na ang pangalan ng ama ni aaron at moses ay IMRAN???


      CENON BIBE:
      SORRY po pero HINDI RELIABLE ang AKLAT NINYO pagdating sa bagay na iyan.

      MALI-MALI nga po kasi e. Si AARON ginawang "SISTER" ni MARY. (QURAN 19:28)

      Si IMRAN ay GINAWANG AMA ni MARIANG INA ni HESUS. (QURAN 66:12)

      KINOPYA LANG po iyan sa BIBLE kung saan ang AMA ni MOSES ay si AMRAM.

      NUMBERS 26:59
      The name of Amram's wife was Jochebed daughter of Levi, who was born to Levi in Egypt; and she bore to Amram: Aaron, Moses, and their sister Miriam.

      Ang "MIRIAM" po na KAPATID nina AARON at MOSES ang INAKALA ng QURAN 28:19 na si "MARIA" na INA ni HESUS.

      Ang AMRAM ang HEBREO ng ARABIC na "IMRAN." Sa AMRAM po KINOPYA ang "IMRAN."

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    15. ANONYMOUS SAID:
      Mary sister of Aaron???
      yes, pro hnd sa parhong magulang

      mary is sister of aaron dhl sila ay kadugo, kamag-anak, kalahi, katribo....

      anu ang koneksyon nila?? panu at bakit cla kadugo, kamag-anak o kalahi atbp????
      bcuz Mary is DESCENDANT of Aaron and both mary and aaron is DESCENDANT of Abraham...
      sila ay kapamilya,kadugo,kalahi katribo ni Abraham....

      and also mary is sister of aaron in clan and faith...

      The Arabic term 'ukh'ta' (sister) in verse 19:28 means

      (a) A sister by blood relationship from the same parent

      (b) Figuratively a female in faith, sisterhood, relationship by tribe.


      CENON BIBE:
      SORRY po pero MALI po ang PALIWANAG NINYO.

      Ang "SISTER" po ay HINDI GINAGAMIT sa "DESCENDANT."

      Kung DESCENDANT po ni AARON si MARIA (ayon sa QURAN 19:28), ang DAPAT ay MARY "DAUGHTER OF AARON."



      HINDI rin po PUWEDENG "Figuratively a female in faith, sisterhood, relationship by tribe."

      WALA po sa KONTEKSTO ng QURAN 19:28.

      Ang KONTEKSTO po ng AYA ay sa PAMILYA o IMMEDIATE FAMILY.

      Heto po ang sabi sa AYA, ""O sister (i.e. the like) of Harun (aaron) ! Your father was not a man who used to commit adultery, nor your mother was an unchaste woman."


      KITA po NINYO? Ang UMANO'Y "BROTHER" at "FATHER" ni MARIA ang TINUTUKOY diyan at HINDI sa PANANAMPALATAYA.

      Kaya MALI po TALAGA ang QURAN 19:28.

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  15. In the Bible, Elizabeth was called daughters of Aaron. Was she literally a daughter of Aaron?

    in the days of Herod, King of Judea, there was a priest named Zechari'ah, of the division of Abi'jah; and he had a wife of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elizabeth. [Luke 1:5, RSV]

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    1. SEE?

      MARY is called "DAUGHTER of AARON" and NOT "SISTER OF AARON."

      She is "DAUTHER OF AARON" because MARY is a DESCENDANT of AARON.

      MARY is NOT CALLED "SISTER of AARON" because "SISTER" DOES NOT MEAN "DESCENDANT." SISTER among RELATIVES can mean BIOLOGICAL SISTER or COUSIN.

      So, the ERROR in QURAN 19:28 CANNOT be REMOVED or EXPLAINED. IT is SIMPLY an ERROR.

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  16. Cenon: SEE?

    MARY is called "DAUGHTER of AARON"

    san?? asan ung >MARY is called "DAUGHTER of AARON"< ??? 0.o???

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    1. ELIZABETH, the COUSIN of MARY, was CALLED "DAUGHTER OF AARON."

      And that is because ELIZABETH was a DESCENDANT of AARON.

      As a COUSIN of ELIZABETH, the term EXTENDS to MARY. So, MARY is also a "DAUGHTER OF AARON."

      So, MARY is a "DAUGHTER OF AARON" and NOT a "SISTER OF AARON."

      MALI TALAGA ang QURAN 19:28.

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    2. naku naman! IN THE SEMITIC LANGUAGES SISTER ALSO MEANS DESCENDANT

      In the Arabic construction of the sentence, sister is also considered as a descendant. Thus, when the people said to Mary, Ukhta Haroon i.e. 'sister of Aaron' it actually means descendant of Aaron (pbuh).

      ang ibig sabihin ng Ukhta or akht(أخت) po paulit ulit nlng ay:

      .kapatid
      .kapatid sa pananampalataya
      .kalahi
      .Supling

      .kapatid ba ni maryam si aaron??
      ou, lahat namn ng tao magkakapatid..

      .kapatid ba sa pananampalataya sina aaron at maryam?
      aba cmpre namn...

      .kalahi ba ni aaron si maryam???
      ofcourse!!!

      .supling/descendant ba ni aaron si maryam??
      yup!!!

      note:
      (شقيقة)Shaqiqa means blood sister sa ama at hindi Akht (أخت)....

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    3. ANO po ang SOURCE o REFERENCE NINYO na ang "SISTER" ay nangangahulugan ng "DESCENDANT"?

      Paki bigay po para MAKITA ko rin.



      In the meantime, ALIN po ba talaga ang paliwanag ninyo sa MARY "SISTER of AARON"? DESCENDANT ba SIYA? KAPATID sa LAMAN? KALAHI? O "SUPLING"?

      NAGKOKONTRAHAN po kasi KAYO ng mga KAPATID NINYO E.

      Sana po ay MASAGOT NINYO.

      SALAMAT.

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  17. lahat yan! kaya nga Uktha eh at hnd Shaqiqa, anu ba inglesh ng Uktha????

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    1. ANO po ang sabi ninyo? "LAHAT" ng DEFINITION ng "UKTHA" ay PALIWANAG sa KAHULUGAN ng "SISTER OF AARON?"

      Ibig ninyong sabihin, si MARIA ay "KAPATID" na ni AARON ay "ANAK" o "SUPLING" pa SIYA ni AARON?

      Hindi po ba MAGKAKONTRA yan?

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  18. ikhta o okht okhti in arabic word means sister..
    generally speaking ang ukhta means sister in faith hindi naman specifically sinabi na kapatid sya mismo ni haruun

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    1. So, KINOKONTRA po NINYO ang SABI ng ISA NINYONG KAPATID na "DESCENDANT" daw ang kahulugan ng "IKHTA" o "OKHT" o "OKHTI"?

      HINDI "DESCENDANT" si MARIA kundi "SISTER IN FAITH." TAMA po ba?


      Kung ganyan po ang idadahilan ninyo ay MALI pa rin po.

      WALA pa pong ISLAM noong PANAHON NINA AARON.

      Ang masasabing "relihiyon" nina AARON ay "YAHWEHISM" o ang PANINIWALA sa IISANG DIYOS na si YAHWEH.

      NAGSIMULA po ang ISLAM noong LUMITAW ang PROPETA NINYO noong 600AD.

      So, MALI na naman po ang PALIWANAG NINYO.

      SORRY po.

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  19. wala man tinatawag na islam nung panahon na un pero magmula kay adan at sa mga naunang propeta sila ay muslim...muslim ay ang sumasamba sa nag iisang diyos...

    atsaka wag mo isipin na ako ay balik islam dahil ako ay natural born muslim....hindi man sapat ang kakayahan ko na kontrahin ang mga sinasabi mo pero ginagawa ko ayon sa aking makakaya...hindi ko rin naman ako isang religious person pero sa pag uusap natin na ito natutulungan mo akong mas kumapit sa religion ko para depensahan ang paniniwala ko

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    1. WALA pang TINAWAG na ISLAM at WALA RING TINAWAG na MUSLIM noong UNANG PANAHON dahil WALA PONG ISLAM at MUSLIM NOON.

      NAGSIMULA lang po ang ISLAM at MUSLIM noong LUMITAW si MUHAMMAD.

      HINDI po MUSLIM si ADAN at ang mga NAUNANG PROPETA.

      SINASABI LANG ng mga MUSLIM na MUSLIM SINA ADAN etc pero WALA pong PROOF DIYAN.


      HINDI ko po gustong sukatin ang inyong kakayanan. HINDI ko rin po gustong MALIITIN ang INYONG PANINIWALA.

      NAG-UUSAP LANG po TAYO at NAGSUSURI. Dahil para po sa akin ay MAHALAGA na SURIIN at PAG-ARALAN NATIN kahit ang ating mga PINANINIWALAAN para MAKITA NATIN kung TOTOO o HINDI ang mga SINASABI NITO.

      Kung NATUTO po KAYONG MAGSALIKSIK nang MAS MALALIM kaugnay sa PANINIWALA NINYO ay IKINAGAGALAK KO po yan.

      AKO man po ay NAGSURI at NAG-ARAL ng PANANAMPALATAYANG KATOLIKO. Sa pamamagitan ng aking PAG-AARAL ay NAKITA KO na KRISTIYANISMO (KATOLISISMO) ang NAG-IISANG TUNAY na RELIHIYON ng DIYOS.

      Kung KAYO po ay MAGSUSURI at MAKITA rin po NINYO ISLAM ang TUNAY ay MAGANDA rin po IYON.

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