Saturday, April 3, 2010

Pari nang-rape? Okay lang ba sa Katoliko?

BINUKSAN po ni KAREEMBILL@YAHOO.COM ang isang SENSITIBONG TOPIC: ang UMANO'Y PANG-AABUSO ng mga LIDER PANRELIHIYON (mga pari raw) sa mga BATA.

NAGLAGAY po siya ng mga NEWS REPORTS sa kabilang post natin kung saan TINUTUKOY ang umano'y PANG-AABUSO ng ILANG PARI sa MGA BATA.

HINDI SIYA DAPAT NAGSASALITA ng MGA BAGAY na GANYAN, partikular ang PAGGALAW ng mga LIDER PANRELIHIYON sa MGA BATA dahil MISMONG PROPETA NILA ay ISINASANGKOT sa ISYU KAUGNAY DIYAN.

Ang ISYU po ay NAG-ASAWA raw ng BATA ang KANILANG PROPETA.

TOTOO po ba ITO?

Well, hayaan po nating ang MGA LIDER MUSLIM ang MAGSABI kung TOTOO IYAN o HINDI.

Pero bago po iyan ay LIWANAGIN po NATIN ang ISYU sa mga PARI na NANG-MOLESTIYA raw ng mga BATA.

Una po, MALINAW sa ARAL at BATAS ng SIMBAHAN na ISANG MALAKING KASALANAN ang PAGMOMOLESTIYA, lalo na ang PANGGAGAHASA, sa ISANG BATA.

Heto po ang sabi ng CATECHISM of the CATHOLIC CHURCH kaugnay diyan:
PARAGRAPH 2356. Rape is the forcible violation of the sexual intimacy of another person. It does injury to justice and charity. Rape deeply wounds the respect, freedom, and physical and moral integrity to which every person has a right. It causes grave damage that can mark the victim for life. It is always an intrinsically evil act. Graver still is the rape of children committed by parents (incest) or those responsible for the education of the children entrusted to them.


NAPAKALINAW po riyan na "GRAVE SIN" ang PANGGAGAHASA sa isa pang TAO (HINDI lang po BABAE kundi pati sa LALAKE).

At NAPAKALINAW po na sinasabi ng KATESISMO na "GRAVER" SIN ang PANGGAGAHASA sa MGA BATA.

Sa madaling salita po ay IPINAGBABAWAL IYAN sa IGLESIANG KRISTIYANO.

Ngayon, KUNG MAY PARI man na NANGGAGAHASA o NANG-RAPE ng BATA ay LUMALABAG at SUMASALUNGAT sa ARAL ng SIMBAHANG KATOLIKO.

Kung MAY PARI o KATOLIKO na NANGRE-RAPE ng BATA man o HINDI BATA ay MANANAGOT SIYA, kung hindi man sa HUKUMAN ng TAO ay MANANAGOT SIYA sa HUKUMAN ng DIYOS.

Maaari pong MAITAGO NIYA ang KASALANANG IYAN sa TAO pero HINDI NIYA IYAN MAITATAGO sa DIYOS dahil LAHAT ng BAGAY ay ALAM ng DIYOS.

DIYOS PO ang HAHATOL sa KANYA.

MALI po KASI ang PAKIKIPAG-SEX o PAKIKIPAGTALIK sa ISANG BATA.

BATA po KASI IYAN e. WALA pa sa WASTONG PAG-IISIP at EDAD para sa SEX.

Para po sa KARAMIHAN, KRISTIYANO man o HINDI, ay KARUMALDUMAL na GAWAIN ang MAKIPAGTALIK sa isang BATA.

Pero GALIT na GALIT lang naman po itong BALIK ISLAM na ITO dahil KRISTIYANO ang PEDOPHILE.

NATITIYAK ko po na KUNG BALIK ISLAM ang PEDOPHILE ay IPAGMAMALAKI pa NIYA iyan.

Bakit po?

Dahil LEGAL po sa ISLAM ang PAG-AASAWA sa BATA.

Doon po natin iyan TATALAKAYIN sa MGA SUSUNOD NATING POST.

Salamat po.

13 comments:

  1. Easter Mass becomes papal pep rally in Rome
    By FRANCES D'EMILIO, Associated Press Writer Frances D'emilio, Associated Press Writer – 27 mins ago

    VATICAN CITY – Easter Sunday Mass in St. Peter's Square, the Catholic church's most joyous celebration, began with a senior cardinal defending Pope Benedict XVI from what he called "petty gossip" and hailing him for "unfailing" leadership and courage.

    But the pontiff himself ignored accusations that he perpetuated a climate of cover-up for pedophile priests, even as sex abuse scandals threatened to overshadow his papacy.

    The ringing tribute by Cardinal Angelo Sodano, dean of the College of Cardinals, at the start of a Mass attended by tens of thousands of faithful, marked an unusual departure from the Vatican's Easter rituals, infusing the tradition-steeped religious ceremony with an air of a papal pep rally.

    Sodano's praise for Benedict as well as the church's 400,000 priests worldwide cranked up a vigorous campaign by the Holy See to counter what it calls a "vile" smear operation orchestrated by anti-Vatican media aimed at weakening the papacy and its moral authority.

    The pontiff and many bishops have been assailed by accusations from victims of clergy sexual abuse that Benedict helped shape and perpetuate a climate of cover-up toward the crimes against children in parishes, schools, orphanages and other church-run institutions.

    Victims and their advocates are demanding that Benedict take personal responsibility.

    Yet, Sodano insisted, on Easter the faithful came to "rally close around you, successor to (St.) Peter, bishop of Rome, the unfailing rock of the holy church" amid the joy of Easter.

    "We are deeply grateful to you for the strength of spirit and apostolic courage with which you announce the Gospel," said Sodano, who sought to assure Benedict that the scandals were not costing him credibility among his flock.

    "Holy Father, on your side are the people of God, who do not allow themselves to be influenced by the petty gossip of the moment, by the trials which sometimes buffet the community of believers," Sodano said.

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  2. Dressed in gold robes and shielded from a cool drizzle by a canopy, Benedict looked weary during much of the Easter Sunday ceremony, the highlight of a heavy Holy Week schedule. But as he listened intently to Sodano's paean, a smile broke across the pope's face, and when the cardinal finished speaking, Benedict rose from his chair in front of the altar to embrace him.

    The cardinal also rushed to the defense of all the Catholic priests who "generously serve the people of God, in parishes, recreation centers, schools, hospitals and many other places, as well as in the missions in the most remote parts of the world."

    In early evening, the pope, who turns 83 on April 16, was to fly by helicopter to the papal retreat in Castel Gandolfo, a lakeside town in the Alban Hills south of Rome, where he will greet pilgrims in the palace courtyard on Monday.

    Benedict was holding up well against the campaign of "deceitful accusations" against him, Venice Cardinal Angelo Scola said in an interview on Italian state TV Sunday. Scola said he recently had dined with the pope, who was drawing on his "usual spiritual energy."

    Easter Sunday Mass was the last major Holy Week appearance by the pope in Rome for the thousands of faithful who have poured into the city. They cheered Benedict at the end of Sunday's two-hour-long ceremony in the cobblestone square bedecked with daffodils, tulips and azaleas.

    After the Mass, Benedict moved to the central balcony of St. Peter's Basilica to deliver his "Urbi et Orbi" message — Latin for "to the city and to the world" — which analyzes humanity's failings and hopes.

    He singled out the "trials and sufferings," including persecution and even death, of Christians in Iraq and Pakistan, and of people in Haiti and Chile, devastated by earthquakes. He hoped for peaceful coexistence to win out over criminal violence in Latin American countries plagued by drug trafficking, and promised to pray for peace in the Middle East.

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  3. His speech ignored demands by victims that he shoulder some responsibility for a common practice by bishops in the past of shuffling pedophile priests from parish to parish rather than sullying the church's reputation by defrocking clergy who raped, sodomized or otherwise sexually abused minors.

    The accusations against the pope stem from his leadership as archbishop of Munich, in his native Germany, before he came to the Vatican three decades ago, as well as his long tenure in Rome leading the Holy See's office dealing with a growing pile of dossiers about pedophile priests.

    Sodano's words irked a prominent advocacy group, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests.

    "When we speak up and tell how our childhood innocence was shattered by sexual assaults by priests, it is not 'petty gossip,'" SNAP president Barbara Blaine said in a statement.

    Separately, in Germany, where the church is facing intense criticism about the widening abuse scandal, a man attacked the Roman Catholic Bishop of Muenster with a broom handle during an Easter service in the city's cathedral, police said.

    Bishop Felix Genn, 60, defended himself with an incense bowl and was unharmed. After the incident, he continued celebrating the Easter service. The man's motive was unclear, police said.

    So far, the Vatican's counterattack to beat back the scandal accusations already backfired in one high-profile attempt.

    Jewish leaders, and even some top Catholic churchmen, were angered after Benedict's personal preacher, in a Good Friday sermon, likened the growing accusations against the pope to the campaign of anti-Semitic violence that culminated in the Holocaust.

    The preacher, the Rev. Raniero Cantalamessa, told Corriere della Sera daily in an interview Sunday that he had no intention "of hurting the sensibilities of the Jews and of the victims of pedophilia," expressed regret and asked for forgiveness.

    He was quoted as saying that the pope wasn't aware of what the sermon would say beforehand, but that a Vatican official, not identified by the preacher, did read the text before the Good Friday service.

    The apology satisfied one Jewish leader, Elan Steinberg, vice president of the American Gathering of Holocaust Survivors and their Descendants.

    "Now that he has apologized and the Vatican has distanced itself from those remarks, the matter is closed," Steinberg said in a statement.

    Paris Cardinal Andre Vingt-Trois told Le Parisien newspaper that he understood the "violent and indignant" reaction that Friday's sermon provoked in Jews and pedophilia victims. Still, the French churchman denounced what he called a campaign of "denigration and slander" against the pope and said he shouldn't resign.

    Washington Archbishop Donald Wuerl joined those defending Benedict, writing in an opinion piece in Sunday's Washington Post that the pope has supported U.S. bishops' commitment to child protection policies.

    In Milwaukee, where one priest was accused of assaulting some 200 deaf boys, at least a dozen churchgoers told The Associated Press they were not closely following a scandal that has engulfed the church.

    Tony Pisani said he was frustrated by what he was hearing in the news but he is waiting to hear the reaction of the pope himself, not just the Vatican.

    "I haven't seen too many statements from him," the Milwaukee man said. "I'd like to see what safeguards he's implemented to make sure something like this doesn't happen again."

    One of the few angry parishioners was 68-year-old Jackson Spears, who said the church should have taken strong action from the beginning.

    "I think the pope should have been more aggressive and he should have done something sooner," Spears said. "The church shouldn't condone these things and should have years ago done something about it."

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  4. MARRIAGE (LIMITED POLYGYNY) IN ISLAM

    The most controversial institution in Islam from the non-Muslims’ point
    Of view is marriage. We always hear about polygamy. Polygamy has two categories:
    Polygyny and Polyandry. Polyandry means the practice of Women having Two or More
    Husband, Polygyny is the practice of a man having Two or More Wives. Polyandry is absolutely
    Abhorrent in Islam. To discuss polygyny, we must agree that only the Creator has the Right to Forbid or Allow it. Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, Jesus Christ and Muhammad, peace be upon them, never
    Prohibited Polygyny. Only during the time of Muhammad (pbuh), did God limit marriage for men to four.
    God says; “... marry woman of your choice, two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not able to deal justly (with them) then only One or (a captive) that your right hands possess. That will be more
    Suitable to prevent you from doing injustice.” Qur’aan (An-Nisaa) 4:3

    Look at the holy Bible of the Jews and the Christians! Moses (Exodus 18:1-2 & Munbers 12:1) who brought the Law for Israelites had two wives. King David (1Samuel 25:44 & 2Samuel 3:5) had a number of wives. King Solomon, the most Powerful and Wise King that ever live on Earth; had 700 wives and 300 concubines (1Kings 11:3)

    SURPLUS OF WOMEN
    In the “great nation of the world,” if all the men will marry, there will be a surplus of women as follows:
    1. United States of America; 7,800,000
    2. Great Britain; 4,000,000
    3. Germany; 5,000,000
    4. Soviet Russia; 7,000,000

    The problem is getting compounded in the United States of America because 98% of INMATES in their Prison cells are Males. What is worse for unmarried American Women, 25 million American men are GAYS (homosexuals). If you are one of those women mentioned above, what would you do? In Islam, whether she is no. 2, 3, or 4 her rights will be the same as those of the first wife, and likewise the rights of her Children.

    FACTORS THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THE RAPID MORTALITY RATE OF MALES
    1) War
    2) Alcohol
    3) Reckless driving
    4) Violence
    5) Susceptibility to diseases, medically
    6) Shorter natural life-span than that of the female
    Worldwide, the number of females is much higher than that of males. Needless to say that countless women today have exposed their physical beauty (literally) just to seduce men in order to be satisfied sexually. If no one will marry and satisfy them legally, sooner or later society will beget Prostitutes, Bastards, Venereal Diseases, and so forth.

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  5. LIMITED POLYGYNY (UP TO FOUR) CAN BE A SULUTION OR A LIMIT TO FOLLOWING ILLNESSES OF SOCIETY:
    1. Undesirable divorces among the married couples
    2. Sexually transmitted diseases
    3. Prostitution
    3. Surplus of Women
    4. Illegitimate children
    5. Pre-marital sexual relationships
    6. Incest
    God the Most Merciful—The Creator knows best what He created. As the person who made the computer knows best what is good for the computer, the maker would not fail to write a manual (reference book) in order to maintain its good condition. He who created us gave books to the prophets to illustrate and demonstrate the correct way of life. There are so –called religious people today who even prohibit themselves from marriage and encourage celibacy: Qur’aan (Al-Khaf) 18:27;”… THERE IS NONE WHO CAN CHANGE HGIS WORDS, and thou wilt find no refuge beside Him.” God commanded us to multiply! Most common proofs used by people who oppose the plurality of wives are as follows; “THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY”,”…THOU SHALT NOT COVET YOUR NEIGHBOR’S WIFE. YOU SHALL NOT COVET YOUR NEIGHBOR’S WIFE… OR FEMALE SLAVE,” EXODUS 20:14, 17. I want my good readers to open their eyes, that “covet” and “marry” are not synonymous. “Covet,” according to “OXFORD DICTIONARY” MEANS “desire greatly (esp. a thing belonging to another person).” In Islam adultery is a great sin; if a person who commits it an is proven guilty, with due process of law, he shall be put to death publicly. All the prophets of God knew what is the meaning of “covet” and “marry.” Jesus Christ (pbuh) said “DO NOT THINK THAT I HAVE COME TO ABOLISH THE LAW OR THE PROPHETS.”—Matthew 5;17.

    The Prophet of God practiced polgyny: Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon. And Muhammad (peace be upon them all). It is hypocrisy for a man to be contented with a wife, yet he raises his body temperature when he sees other women. If “St. Paul” contradicts the practices of the Prophets of God, then I am forced to say the he was liar: He says: “For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my LIE unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as sinner?”- Romans 3:7 KJV.

    Marriage age for women has a limit; beyond it, their hope and productivity deteriorate. Women’s blooming age is form their first cycle to the age of 30. If they cannot find husband there is a great possibility that they will miss the match. In a non-Muslim societies, the only chance for a woman to find a husband beyond her blooming period is to lower her moral values or bargain her ideals and standards. If no one marries her, she will suffer psychological, physical and social deprivation. For a man, regardless of age, can propose marriage to whoever he likes, whereas most ladies who are modest cannot, or it is shameful in their part, to propose marriage to men. The fact is there are women who ignore the rules of decency just to have partners in life. It is a fact that the numbers of women is increasing, while the number of men is fast decreasing, the common causes having mentioned above.

    As a woman, would you want to be alone in your problems, happiness, daily life, old age, and in death? Normally, parents will die, your brothers and sisters sooner or later will have their own families. Likewise, your relatives will be separated from you and will have priorities that will force them to neglect your very person. If you do not marry someday, it will be too late to face the pangs of consequences.

    But Islam has given a solution: man can marry up to four provided he can practice justice. Which is better: to be a mother but not a wife, miss the match, be a public property, or to be number 2, 3, or 4 yet legal and chaste?

    Muslims practice limited polygyny publicly and legally, while the enemies of Islam and the Hypocrites practice it privately and illegally.

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  6. BALIK ISLAM quoting AHMED DEEDAT:
    Polygamy has two categories:
    Polygyny and Polyandry. Polyandry means the practice of Women having Two or More
    Husband, Polygyny is the practice of a man having Two or More Wives.

    CENON BIBE:
    Ganoon? LALAKE puwede MARAMING ASAWA pero BABAE HINDI?

    UNFAIR di po ba?

    Para po HINDI UNFAIR KAHIT KANINO ay ISA LANG DAPAT ASAWA para sa BABAE at LALAKE.

    GANOON po NILIKHA ng DIYOS ang TAO.

    Sabi ng DIYOS sa Genesis 2:24

    "That is why a man leaves his father and mother and clings to his WIVE, and the TWO of them become one body."

    Take note lang po, ang LALAKE ay KAKAPIT sa kanyang ASAWA. HINDI po SINABING "MGA ASAWA."

    Take note po uli, silang DALAWA ang magiging iisang katawan. HINDI po sinabi na at SILANG LIMA (LALAKE at APAT NA ASAWA) ay magiging iisang katawan.

    IYAN po ang KALAKARAN sa TUNAY na BAYAN ng DIYOS. DIYOS ang TUNAY na NAGTAYO.

    Kaya po sa KRISTIYANISMO ay GANYAN.

    Sa IBA po na HINDI DIYOS ang NAGTAYO ay IBA po ang PANINIWALA.

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  7. BALIK ISLAM quoting AHMED DEEDAT:
    To discuss polygyny, we must agree that only the Creator has the Right to Forbid or Allow it. Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, Jesus Christ and Muhammad, peace be upon them, never
    Prohibited Polygyny.

    CENON BIBE:
    GOD NEVER INSTITUTED POLYGAMY. That's why THE TRUE PEOPLE of GOD and the NATION INSTITUTED by GOD DOES NOT PRACTICE POLYGAMY.

    OF the following: Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, Jesus Christ and Muhammad, ONLY MUHAMMAD INSTITUTED POLYGAMY.

    ABRAHAM, MOSES and JESUS NEVER PRACTICED POLYGAMY.

    ABRAHAM had TWO WIVES but THESE were NEVER AT THE SAME TIME. He married KETURAH AFTER his FIRST WIFE, SARAH, had DIED.

    HAGAR WAS NEVER a WIFE of ABRAHAM. She was a SLAVE WOMAN who CONSPIRED to SUBVERT GOD'S WILL. In short, SHE CONSPIRED to COMMIT a SIN.

    As a result, HAGAR and her BASTARD SON, ISMAEL, were EXPELLED and THROWN OUT of ABRAHAM'S CAMP.

    ISMAEL was NOT EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED as an INHERITOR or ABRAHAM.

    MOSES as a polygamist HAS NEVER been DEFINITIVELY ESTABLISHED. In fact, his supposed "other wife" was NEVER NAMED.


    DAVID and SOLOMON were SINNERS who WERE EVEN PUNISHED by GOD as a result of their GREED FOR CARNAL PLEASURE.

    DAVID was PUNISHED when his SON DIED.

    SOLOMON'S GREED for WOMEN LED HIM AWAY from the ONE TRUE GOD and eventually led to the DIVISION of ISRAEL--a CLEAR RESULT and PUNISHMENT for HIS WOMANIZING.

    JESUS CHRIST NEVER MARRIED. He even EXHORTED MEN NOT TO MARRY for the KINGDOM OF GOD.

    IT is A LIE that HE NEVER PROHIBITED POLYGAMY.

    JESUS echoed Gen 2:24 where GOD CLEARLY POINTED OUT that A MAN should cling to A WIFE and that the TWO of them (NOT FIVE: 1 MAN and 4 WOMEN) become ONE FLESH.

    ONLY MUHAMMAD, whose being a prophet is ACCEPTED ONLY in ISLAM, INSTITUTED POLYGAMY.

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  8. BALIK ISLAM quoting AHMED DEEDAT:
    God says; “... marry woman of your choice, two or three or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not able to deal justly (with them) then only One or (a captive) that your right hands possess. That will be more
    Suitable to prevent you from doing injustice.” Qur’aan (An-Nisaa) 4:3

    CENON BIBE:
    SUCH a DECREE CAN NEVER be READ from the BIBLE, the ONLY WORD OF GOD that QUOTES GOD HIMSELF and where GOD HIMSELF SPEAKS.

    Members of the BALIK ISLAM CANNOT DECLARE that the WORDS in the QURAN DIRECTLY CAME from GOD.

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  9. BALIK ISLAM quoting AHMED DEEDAT:
    SURPLUS OF WOMEN
    In the “great nation of the world,” if all the men will marry, there will be a surplus of women as follows:
    1. United States of America; 7,800,000
    2. Great Britain; 4,000,000
    3. Germany; 5,000,000
    4. Soviet Russia; 7,000,000

    CENON BIBE:
    DISPARITY in ratio in men and women is NEVER an EXCUSE for POLYGAMY.

    What about PLACES where there are MORE MEN than WOMEN? SHOULD WOMEN be ALLOWED to MARRY MORE than ONE HUSBAND?

    Of course NOT!

    From that simple example, it is CLEAR that the RATIO of MEN and WOMEN is an ERRONEOUS REASON.

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  10. BALIK ISLAM quoting AHMED DEEDAT:
    The problem is getting compounded in the United States of America because 98% of INMATES in their Prison cells are Males. What is worse for unmarried American Women, 25 million American men are GAYS (homosexuals). If you are one of those women mentioned above, what would you do? In Islam, whether she is no. 2, 3, or 4 her rights will be the same as those of the first wife, and likewise the rights of her Children.

    CENON BIBE:
    The question can be posed to MEN where THEY OUTNUMBER WOMEN: If you are one of those MEN, what would you do?

    Would ISLAM say that WOMEN should be ALLOWED to MARRY 2, 3 or 4 MEN so that MEN WOULD NOT BE LONELY?

    That is why such a reason is ABSURD.

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  11. BALIK ISLAM quoting AHMED DEEDAT:]
    “THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY”,”…THOU SHALT NOT COVET YOUR NEIGHBOR’S WIFE. YOU SHALL NOT COVET YOUR NEIGHBOR’S WIFE… OR FEMALE SLAVE,” EXODUS 20:14, 17. I want my good readers to open their eyes, that “covet” and “marry” are not synonymous. “Covet,” according to “OXFORD DICTIONARY” MEANS “desire greatly (esp. a thing belonging to another person).”

    CENON BIBE:
    WHAT is the SOLUTION to COVETING OTHER PEOPLE'S WIVES? To DESIRE MORE WOMEN or to CONTROL ONE'S LIBIDO and CHOOSE to be NOT MARRIED?

    To CRAVE for MORE WOMEN is to ALLOW ONE'S SELF to be SWAYED by LUSTFUL or EARTHLY DESIRES.

    To CONTROL one's SELF and be CHASTE allows us to DEVOTE OURSELVES to GOD.

    WHICH do you THINK will MAKE GOD MORE HAPPY? If WE LIVE MORE CARNAL, LUSTFUL LIVES or BE CHASTE FOR HIM?

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  12. BALIK ISLAM quoting AHMED DEEDAT:
    The Prophet of God practiced polgyny: Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon. And Muhammad (peace be upon them all).

    CENON BIBE:
    ABRAHAM and MOSES were NEVER POLYGAMISTS.

    DAVID and SOLOMON were NEVER PROPHETS but SINNERS PUNISHED by GOD as a result of their GREED for WOMEN.

    MUHAMMAD is NOT a PROPHET ACCEPTED in the BIBLE.

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  13. BALIK ISLAM quoting AHMED DEEDAT:
    As a woman, would you want to be alone in your problems, happiness, daily life, old age, and in death? Normally, parents will die, your brothers and sisters sooner or later will have their own families. Likewise, your relatives will be separated from you and will have priorities that will force them to neglect your very person. If you do not marry someday, it will be too late to face the pangs of consequences.

    CENON BIBE:
    WOULD YOU SAY that SAME THING to MEN LIVING in PLACES where there are FEWER WOMEN?

    WOULD YOU also ALLOW WOMEN to MARRY MORE MEN in such a situation?

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