Monday, May 31, 2010

'3 Unlikes' recycled na basura

INULIT NA NAMAN PO nitong MGA BALIK ISLAM ang BASURANG ARAL NILA na NAGPUPUMILIT PATUNAYAN na HINDI ang PANGINOONG HESUS ang PROPETANG tinutukoy sa Deuteronomy 18:18.

PASENSIYA na po KAYO kung TINAWAG NATING BASURA ang ARAL ng BALIK ISLAM na IYAN. Kaya po NATIN TINATAWAG na BASURA ang POST ng mga BALIK ISLAM e dahil NASAGOT na po NATIN IYANG "3 UNLIKES" daw ng PANGINOONG HESUS at ni MOISES. NAPATUNAYAN na rin po NATING MALI ang MGA PANGANGATWIRAN NILA RIYAN.

KATUNAYAN po ay NEVER NASAGOT at NEVER NATUTULAN ng mga BALIK ISLAM ang PAGWASAK NATIN sa ARAL NILANG IYAN.

Heto po ang NAUNA nating MGA ARTIKULO sa "3 UNLIKES NINA HESUS AT MOISES"

Ngayon ay GAWAN po NATIN ng PANIBAGONG PAGLILINIS ang BASURANG ARAL na IYAN na GAWA-GAWA lang ng ISLAMIC SCHOLAR na si AHMED DEEDAT.

Heto po ang HIRIT ng mga BALIK ISLAM kaugnay sa "3 UNLIKES" daw na iyan:

Three Unlikes
1. "In the FIRST place Jesus is not like Moses, because, according to you - 'JESUS IS A GOD', but Moses is not God."

2. 'JESUS DIED FOR THE SINS OF THE WORLD', but Mose s did not have to die for the sins of the world."

3. THIRDLY, 'JESUS WENT TO HELL FOR THREE DAYS', but Moses did not have to go there."

Dahil po riyan ay HETO po ang KONKLUSYON ng BALIK ISLAM: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses!"

Ang TANONG po ay MABABASA po ba sa Deut18:18 ang mga SINABI na IYAN ng BALIK ISLAM o IDINAGDAG LANG NILA?

Basahin po NATIN ang SINASABI ng TALATA.

Deuternonomy 18:18:
"I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their kinsmen, and will put my words into his mouth; he shall tell them all that I command him."


ANO raw po? SAAN daw po KATULAD ni MOISES ang PROPETANG IBABANGON?

Sa pagka-PROPETA. NAPAKALINAW po NIYAN.

MAY SINABI po ba sa Deut 18:18 na MAGKATULAD o HINDI MAGKATULAD sa pagka-DIYOS?

WALA po.

MAY SINABI po ba sa Deut 18:18 na MAGKATULAD o HINDI MAGKATULAD sa PAGLILIGTAS sa MUNDO?

WALA rin po.

MAY SINABI po ba sa Deut 18:18 na MAGKATULAD o HINDI MAGKATULAD sa PAGPUNTA sa KINAROROONAN ng mga YUMAO?

WALA po uli.

Ang TANONG ay ANO po ang SINASABI nitong BALIK ISLAM? NASA BIBLIYA po ba o IMBENTO LANG NILA?

IMBENTO lang po. NAPAKALINAW po NIYAN.

Kaya nga po BASURA ang ARAL NILA, di po ba?

NAG-IMBENTO SILA ng "3 UNLIKES" at IDINAGDAG NILA sa SINASABI ng Deut 18:18.

Ang BATAYAN NILA ng ARAL ay IMBENTO LANG at HINDI ang MGA SALITA DIYOS sa BIBLIYA.

KAYO po ba MANINIWALA sa IMBENTO at BUNGA lang ng MALIKOT na PAG-IISIP ng isang TULAD ni AHMED DEEDAT?

MAKAPAGLILIGTAS po ba ang PANINIWALA sa IMBENTONG ARAL at RESULTA LANG ng HAKA-HAKA?

MAKAKAPASOK po ba KAYO sa PARAISO o sa LANGIT gamit ang ARAL na BUNGA LANG ng MALIKOT na PAG-IISIP?

TIYAK ko po na HINDI.

Ngayon, KUNG GUSTO NINYONG ISUGAL ang KALULUWA at KALIGTASAN NINYO sa IMBENTONG ARAL ay NASA INYO PO IYAN.

WALA pong MAKAPIPIGIL sa INYO KUNG GUSTO NINYONG ITAPON sa IMPIERNO ang KALULUWA NINYO.

10 comments:

  1. Muslim;
    Ito po ang nakasaad sa Deut. 18:18, & I quote;

    "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

    Prophet Like Moses

    like Moses, and Jesus is like Moses. "questioned: "In which way is Jesus like Moses?" The answer was: "In the first place Moses was a JEW and Jesus was also a JEW; secondly, Moses was a PROPHET and Jesus was also a PROPHET - therefore Jesus is like Moses and that is exactly what God had foretold Moses - "Can you think of any other similarities between Moses and Jesus?"

    "If these are the only two criteria for discovering a candidate for this prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:18, then in that case the criteria could fit any one of the following Biblica l personages after Moses:- Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist etc., because they were also ALL Jews as well as Prophets. Why should we not apply this prophency to any one of these prophets, and why only to Jesus? Why should we make fish of one and fowl of anoth er?"

    "You see, my conclusions are that Jesus is most unlike Moses, and if I am wrong I would like you to correct me."

    "In the FIRST place Jesus is not like Moses, because, according to you - 'JESUS IS A GOD', but Moses is not God. Is this true?"

    SECONDLY, according to you - 'JESUS DIED FOR THE SINS OF THE WORLD', but Mose s did not have to die for the sins of the world. Is this true?"

    THIRDLY, according to you - 'JESUS WENT TO HELL FOR THREE DAYS', but Moses did not have to go there. Is this true?"

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  2. "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses!"

    "these are not hard facts, solid facts, they are mere matters of belief over which the little ones can stumble and fall. Let us discuss something very simple, very easy that if your little ones are called in to hear the discussion, would have no difficulty in following it, shall we?"

    Mother & Father
    "Moses had a father and a mother. Muhummed also had a father and a mother. But Jesus had only a mother, and no human father. Is this true?"

    Miraculous Birth
    "Moses and Muhummed were born in the normal, natural course, i.e. the physical association of man and woman; but Jesus was created by a special miracle. You will recall that we are told in the Gospel of St.Matthew 1:18".....BEFORE THEY CAME TOGETHER,(Joseph the Carpenter and Mary) SHE WAS FOUND WITH CHILD BY THE HOLY GHOST.' And St.Luke tells us that when the good news of the birth of a holy son was announded to her, Mary reasoned:'.......HOW SHALL THIS BE, SEEING I KNOW NOT A MAN? AND THE ANGEL ANSWERED AND SAID UNTO HER, THE HOLY GHOST SHALL COME UPON THEE, AND THE POWER OF THE HIGHEST SHALL OVERSHADOW THEE:......'(Luke 1:35).

    The Holy Qur'an confirms the miraculous birth of Jesus, in nobler and sublimer terms. In answer to her logical question:

    " O MY LORD! HOW SHALL I HAVE A SON WHEN NO MAN HATH TOUCHED ME? "
    The angel says in reply:
    "EVEN SO:
    ALLAH CREATETH WHAT HE WILLETH:
    WHEN HE HATH DECREED A PLAN,
    HE BUT SAITH TO IT "BE,"
    AND IT IS " (9) (HOLY QUR'AN, 3:47).

    It is not necessary for God to plant a seed in man or animal. He merely wills it and it comes into being. This is the Muslim conception of the of birth of Jesus.
    (When I compared the Qur'an and the Biblical versions of the birth of Jesus to the head of the Bible Society in our largest City, and when I enquired: "Which version would you prefer to give your daughter, the QUR'ANIC version or the BIBLICAL version?" The man bowed his head and answered: "The Qur'anic.") "Is it true that Jesus was born miraculously as against the natural birth of Moses and Muhummed? & the Simple Answer is a BIg YES for that! "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhummed is like Moses. And God says to Moses in the Book of Deuteronomy 18:18 "LIKE UNTO THEE" (Like You, Like Moses) and Muhummed is like Moses."

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  3. Marriage Ties
    "Moses and Muhummed married and begat children, but Jesus remained a bachelor all his life. Is this true?"
    "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses, but Muhummed is like Moses."

    Jesus Rejected by his People
    "Moses and Muhummed were accepted as prophets by their people in their very lifetime. No doubt the Jews gave endless trouble to Moses and they murmured in the wilderness, but as a nation, they acknowledged that Moses was a Messenger of God sent to them. The Arabs too made Muhummed's life impossible. He suffered very badly at their hands. After 13 years of preaching in Mecca, he had to emigrate from the city of his birth. But before his demise, the Arab nation as a whole accepted him as the Messenger of Allah. But according to the Bible: 'He (Jesus) CAME UNTO HIS OWN, BUT HIS OWN RECEIVED HIM NOT.' (John 1:11). And even today, ofter two thousand years, his people- the Jews, as a whole, have rejeted him. Is this true?"

    "Other-Wordly" Kingdom
    "Moses and Muhummed were prophets as well as kings. A prophet means a man who receives Divine Revelation for the Guidance of Man and this Guidance he conveys to God's creatures as received without any addition or deletion. A king is a person who has the power of life and death over his people. It is immaterial whether the person wears a crown or not, or whether he was ever addressed as king or monarch: if the man has the prerogative of inflicting capital punishment - HE IS A KING. Moses possessed such a power. Do you remember the Israelite who was found picking up firewood on Sabbath Day , and Moses had him stoned to death? (Numbers- 15:13). There are other crimes also mentioned in the Bible for which capital punishment was inflicted on the Jews at the behest of Moses. Muhummed too, had the power of life and death over his people. There are instances in the Bible of persons who wer e given gift of prophecy only, but they were not in a position to implement their directives. Some of these holy men of God who were helpless in the face of stubborn rejection of their mesage, were the prophets lot, Jonah, Daniel, Ezra, and John the Baptist. They could only deliver the message, but could not enforce the Law. The Holy Prophet Jesus (Peace b.u.h) also belonged to this category. The Christian Gospel clearly confirms this: when Jesus was dragged before the Roman Governor, Pontius Pilate, Charged for sedition, Jesus made a convincing point in his defence to refute the false charg e: JESUS ANSWERED, "MY KINGDOM IS NOT OF THIS WORLD': IF MY KINGDOM WERE OF THIS WORLD, THEN WOULD MY SERVANTS FIGHT, THAT I SHOULD NOT BE DELIVERED TO THE JEWS; BUT NOW IS MY KINGDOM NOT FROM HENCE"(John 18:36) This convinced Pilate (A Pagan) that though Jesus might not be in full possessio n of his mental faculty, he did not strike him as being a danger to his rule. Jesus claimed a spiritual Kingdom only; in other words he only claimed to be a Prophet. Is this true?"
    "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses but Muhummed is like Moses."

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  4. No New Laws
    "Moses and Muhummed brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Moses not only gave the Ten Commandments to the Israelites, but a very comprehensive ceremonial law for the guidance of his people. Muhummed comes to a people steeped in barbarism and ignorance. They married their step-m others; they buried their daughters alive; drunkenness, adultery, idolatry, and gambling were the order of the day. Gibbon describe the Arabs before Islam in his "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire", THE HUMAN BRUTE, ALMOST WITHOUT SENSE, IS POORLY DISTINGUISHED FROM THE REST OF THE ANIMAL CREATI ON.' There was hardly anything to distinguish between the "man" and the "animal" of the time; they were animals in human form.

    "From this abject barbarism, Muhummed elevated them, in the words of Thomas Carlysle, 'into torch-bearers of light and learning.' 'TO THE ARAB NATION IT WAS AS A BIRTH FROM DARKNESS INTO LIGHT. ARABIA FIRST BECAME ALIVE BY MEANS OF IT. A POOR SHEPHERD PEOPLE, ROAMING UNNOTICED IN ITS DESERTS SINCE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD. SEE, THE UNNOTICED BECOMES WORLD NOTABLE, THE SMALL HAS GROWN WORLD-GREAT. WITHIN ONE CENTURY AFTERWARDS ARABIA WAS AT GRANADA ON ONE HAND AND AT DELHI ON THE OTHER. GLANCING IN VALOUR AND SPLENDOUR, AND THE LIGHT OF GENIUS, ARABIA SHINES OVER A GREA SECTION OF THE WORLD. ...' The fact is that Muhummed gave his people a Law and Order they never had before."

    "As regards Jesus, when the Jews felt suspicious of him that he might be an imposter with designs to pervert their teachings, Jesus took pains to assure them that he had not come with a new religion - no new laws and no new regulations. I quote his own words: 'THINK NOT THAT IAM COME TO DESTROY THE LAW, OR THE PROPHETS: IAM NOT COME TO DESTROY, BUT TO FULFIL. FOR VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS, ONE JOT OR ONE TITLE SHALL IN NO WISE PASS FROM THE LAW, TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.'(Mathew 5:17-18). In other words he had not come with any new laws or regulation he came only to fulfil the old law. This what he gave the Jews to understand- unless he was speaking with the tongue in his cheek trying to bluff the Jews into accepting him as a man of God and by subterfuge trying to ram a new religion down their throats. No! This Messenger of God would never resort to such fo ul means to subvert the Religion of God. He himself fulfilled the laws. He observed the commandments of Moses, and he respected the Sabbath. At no time did a single Jew point a finger at him to say, 'why don't you fast' or 'why don't you wash your hands before you break bread',which charges they al wasy levied against his disciples, but never against Jesus. This is because as a good Jew he honoured the laws of the prophets who preceded him. In short, he had created no new religion and had brought no new law like Moses and Muhummed. Is this true?"
    "Therefore, Jesus is not like Moses but Muhummed is like Moses."

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  5. How they Departed
    "Both Moses and Muhummed died natural deaths, but according to Christianity, Jesus was violently killed on the cross.(10) Is this true?"
    "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses but Muhummed is like Moses."

    Heavenly Abode
    "Moses and Muhummed both lie buried in earth, but according to you, Jesus in heaven. Is this true?"
    "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses but Muhummed is like Moses."

    Arabs and Jews
    If Ishmael and Isaac are the sons of the same father Abraham, then they are brothers. And so the children of the one are the BRETHREN of the children of the other. The children of Isaac are the Jews and the Children of Ishmael are the Arabs - so they are BRETHREN to one another. The Bible affirms, 'AND HE (ISHMAEL) SHALL DWELL IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.' (Genesis 16:12). 'AND HE (ISHMAEL) DIED IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL HIS BRETHREN.(Genesis 25:18). The children of Isaac are the brethren of the Ishmaelites. In like manner Muhummed is from among the brethren of the Israeli tes beause he was a descendant of Ishamel the son of Abraham. This exactly as the prophecy has it- 'FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN'.(Deut.18:18). There the prophecy distinctly mentions that the coming prophet who would be like Moses, must arise NOT from the 'children of Israel' or from 'among themselves', but from among their brethren. MUHUMMED THEREFORE WAS FROM AMONG THEIR BRETHREN!

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  6. BALIK ISLAM or ISLAMIC REVERT:
    "If these are the only two criteria for discovering a candidate for this prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:18, then in that case the criteria could fit any one of the following Biblica l personages after Moses:- Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist etc., because they were also ALL Jews as well as Prophets. Why should we not apply this prophency to any one of these prophets, and why only to Jesus? Why should we make fish of one and fowl of anoth er?"

    CENON BIBE:
    AGAIN, the BALIK ISLAM is SHOWING THEIR UGLY FACE in THEIR ARGUMENTS.

    In their TRASHY ARGUMENTS (3 unlikes and 8 irrefutable arguments), the BALIK ISLAM DESPERATELY INVENTED and ADDED SUPPOSED SIMILARITIES between MOSES and THEIR PROPHET.

    In the ABOVE ARGUMENT of this BALIK ISLAM, HE REMOVES SEVERAL CRITERIA GIVEN in Deut18:18.

    BINAWASAN NIYA ang MGA SINABI ng Deut18:18.

    Please TAKE NOTE that HE ONLY MENTIONED TWO of the FOUR CRITERIA GIVEN, namely, "In the first place Moses was a JEW and Jesus was also a JEW; secondly, Moses was a PROPHET and Jesus was also a PROPHET."

    HE DELIBERATELY REMOVED THE OTHER PARTS of the CRITERIA.

    SINADYA nitong BALIK ISLAM na ALISIN o BAWASIN ang IBA PANG BATAYAN.

    At BATAY sa NILIKOT at BINAWASANG CRITERIA nitong BALIK ISLAM ay PILIT NIYANG BINIBIGYANG DUDA ang PAGKAKAPAREHO ni HESUS at ni MOISES.

    NAGBANGGIT pa SIYA ng MARAMING IBANG PROPETA sa BIBLIYA para SABIHIN na KAHIT SINO PALA ay PUWEDE nang TUKUYIN sa Deut18:18.

    PILIT lang NIYANG GINUGULO ang MALINAW na BATAYANG IBINIGAY ng Deut18:18 at PILIT NIYANG NILILITO ang mga SUMUSUBAYBAY sa USAPANG ITO.

    Anyway, paki pansin po na KAHIT BINAWASAN NITONG BALIK ISLAM ang CRITERIA o BATAYAN ay HINDING-HINDI PA RIN LUMAPAT sa KANYANG PROPETA ang NILIKOT NIYANG CRITERIA.

    Ayon sa MISMONG NILIKOT nitong BALIK ISLAM ay "HUDYO" ang PROPETANG TINUTUKOY sa Deut18:18.

    Ang PROPETA NIYA na PILIT NIYANG IPINAGSISIKSIKAN sa TALATA ay HINDI "HUDYO" kaya MALINAW pa rin na HINDI KASAMA ang PROPETA ng BALIK ISLAM sa TINUTUKOY riyan.

    SORRY, PALPAK na naman po ang PAGPUPUMILIT ng BALIK ISLAM na ISAKSAK ang PROPETA NILA sa Deut18:18.

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  7. BALIK ISLAM or ISLAMIC REVERT:
    "In the FIRST place Jesus is not like Moses, because, according to you - 'JESUS IS A GOD', but Moses is not God. Is this true?"

    SECONDLY, according to you - 'JESUS DIED FOR THE SINS OF THE WORLD', but Mose s did not have to die for the sins of the world. Is this true?"

    THIRDLY, according to you - 'JESUS WENT TO HELL FOR THREE DAYS', but Moses did not have to go there. Is this true?"

    CENON BIBE:
    HERE we SEE ONE of the OLD, ROTTEN TACTICS of ISLAMIC REVERTS: THEY REPEAT ARGUMENTS that WE HAVE ALREADY DEMOLISHED or DESTROYED.

    WE have ALREADY SHOWN and PROVEN ABOVE that the "3 Unlikes" INVENTED by the BALIK ISLAM are NOT IN DEUT 18:18.

    THE BALIK ISLAM ONLY ADDED these "3 UNLIKES" to the WORDS of Deut 18:18 to DISTORT the TEXT.

    And BY DISTORTING the TEXT, THEY ARE ABLE to SQUEEZE THEIR PROPHET INTO THE PICTURE.

    WALA pong PINAGKAIBA YAN sa PAG-PEKE sa LITRATO.

    Para po iyang LITRATO na KINUNAN at HINDI KASAMA sa PICTURE ang PROPETA ng ISLAM.

    Ang GINAGAWA ng mga BALIK ISLAM ay NIRERETOKE at DINADAYA NILA ang LITRATO para MAIPASOK DOON ang KANILANG PROPETA.

    Kumbaga po ay pino-PHOTOSHOP NA LANG NILA para lang MADAYA at MAISINGIT ang PROPETA NILA sa EKSENA.

    KAWAWA namang PROPETA IYAN. KAILANGAN pang IPAGSIKSIKAN sa EKSENA para lang MAKITA.

    MABUTI pa ang SALING PUSA talagang KASAMA sa LITRATO.

    Ang PROPETA nitong mga BALIK ISLAM ay KAILANGAN pang DAYAIN at IRETOKE ang LITRATO para lang MAISINGIT.

    NAKAKAAWA di po ba?

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  8. PAKI PANSIN po na PATI ang 8 IRREFUTABLE ARGUMENTS KUNO nitong mga BALIK ISLAM ay INULIT NA NAMAN.

    IYAN po ang BALIK ISLAM: WALANG MAISAGOT at WALANG MAITUTOL sa mga SINABI NATIN kaya INUULIT-ULIT NA LANG ang PALPAK at BASURA NILANG ARGUMENTO para lang MAY MASABI.

    KAILANGAN pa NILANG DAYAIN at IRETOKE ang SINASABI ng Deut18:18 para lang MAISINGIT ang KANILANG PROPETA.

    Para pong BATA na HINDI NAIMBITAHAN at HINDI ISINALI sa PARTY. Para lang MASABI na "KASAMA" sa PARTY yung BATA ay DINADAYA na lang NILA at NIRERETOKE yung LITRATO para MAGMUKHANG KASALI nga IYON sa KASIYAHAN kahit HINDI NAMAN TALAGA.

    KAWAWA naman ang PROPETA nitong mga BALIK ISLAM na ITO. IPINIPILIT NA LANG sa HINDI SIYA KASALI.

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  9. • Deuteronomy 18:18-21
    See: http://www.islam-guide.com/frm-ch1-3.htm

    • John 16:7-14
    New International Version (NIV)
    7 But very truly I tell you, it is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. 8 When he comes, he will prove the world to be in the wrong about sin and righteousness and judgment: 9 about sin, because people do not believe in me; 10 about righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer; 11 and about judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.
    12 “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. 13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. 14 He will glorify me because it is from me that he will receive what he will make known to you.

    • John 14:16-17
    New International Version (NIV)
    16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.


    x----------------------------x


    Muhammad (peace be upon him) is described in the Qur’an:

    Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination. It is not but a revelation revealed, (Qur’an 53:3-4)

    I believe that it is Muhammad (peace be upon him) who is the Advocate/Adviser/Spirit of Truth who guided us in the truth, sin and righteousness and judgment, who do not speak of his own, who speak only of what he hears, tell us what is yet to come, a descendant of Ishmael (peace be upon him).

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    1. TO DEFENDERBEN:

      YOU MAY BELIEVE WHATEVER YOU WANT about MUHAMMAD. That is YOUR RIGHT.

      However, to CLAIM that MUHAMMAD is the ADVOCATE or SPIRIT of TRUTH in John 14:16-17 and John 16:7-14 would be WRONG.

      MUHAMMAD is NOT the SPIRIT of TRUTH. HE is NOT the ADVOCATE.

      MUSLIMS have NO BASIS in MAKING THAT CLAIM.

      First, MUHAMMAD is NOT a SPIRIT.

      Second, the SPIRIT of TRUTH is to BE WITH the DISCIPLES of JESUS and MUHAMMAD is NO LONGER WITH the DISCIPLES of JESUS.

      TAKE NOTE of JOHN 14:16
      The ADVOCATE WILL "be with you forever."

      MUHAMMAD has been LONG GONE and is NO LONGER WITH ANYONE, even with MUSLIMS.

      I'M SORRY.

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